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evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 04:11 AM
Welcome to the Season 2 Playoffs! The Top 8 teams will compete in a double elimination tournament to see who the best is this season!

The series will be best of 5... three maps will be given, but 2 more maps will be decided by the 2 teams competing (each team gets to pick a map) so there's 5 maps in total. Grand Championship will be bo7!

Round 3
Server League #1
(1) Ace vs. (2) fLbSS 12:00 PM EST

Server League #2
(3) Faggy Little Bears vs. (8) ****ing Ninjas 12:00 PM EST
(4) Lobstars vs. (6) Iron Legends 1:00 PM EST

Round 4
Server League #1
Winner of fLb/FN vs. Winner of Lobstars/IL 2:00 PM EST
Winner of match above vs. Loser of Ace/fLbSS 3:00 PM EST

Champion Ship
Lower Bracket Winner vs. Upper Bracket Winner 4:00 PM EST
(2nd Match if Lower Bracket Wins) 5:00 PM EST




For everyone confused

Look at the bracket here
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6976/playoffs2.jpg

Round 1 Maplist
Mayhem/Locomotion/Cave/(Team 1 Pick)/(Team 2 Pick)

Round 2 Maplist
Middleground/Asteroids/Lost City(Team 1 Pick)/(Team 2 Pick)

Round 3
Core/Grotto/Woods/(Team 1 Pick)/(Team 2 Pick)

Round 4 (fn/flb vs. lobstars/IL)
Fallout/Locomotion/Asteroids

Round 5 (Lower Bracket Finals
Core/Cave/Mayhem

Round 6 (Championship)
1st Match starts with Asteroids (Loser picks from there forth)
2nd Match (if need be) starts with Fallout (loser picks from there forth)


I wish everyone luck and hope you guys stick around for the next season of APL =D

X_denied
11-09-2009, 04:19 AM
bears bears bears everywhere... may we win the unbeaten ACE

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 04:25 AM
Ace started off first both playoffs, doesn't mean their gonna win!

gl everyone! The important thing is, to get as far as you can and get urself opportunities no one else can get!

mikesol
11-09-2009, 04:27 AM
=( Too bad I won't be able to make it to finals. The Sunday after this Sunday I'll have been kicked out of the dorms to go home for Thanksgiving.

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 04:28 AM
assuming you make it to finals ;P

mikesol
11-09-2009, 04:31 AM
assuming you make it to finals ;P

Well unless we lose both of our games this upcoming week we'll still have games to play on the next week. I was considering those to be "finals"

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 04:33 AM
assuming you make it next week ;p

mikesol
11-09-2009, 04:35 AM
assuming you make it next week ;p

Hence why I said "unless we lose both of our games" >.>;

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 04:40 AM
assuming you don't lose both of your games ;p

GGQ
11-09-2009, 05:00 AM
This isn't quite clear in the OP; after the three predetermined maps are played, can a team pick one of the maps that has already been played that day?

Also, gogo ACE.

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 05:08 AM
idk, i say no, but im fairly neutral.... but then teams will play the same maplike, team 1 chooses the same map, but then the next team picks another map so no

No you cannot choose

ZidaneTribal
11-09-2009, 02:00 PM
so the games will only go to 4:00 EST this week right? and the tourney is going to end the next week?

evilarsenal
11-09-2009, 02:48 PM
in two weeks brah

before thanksgiving is in effect

jeppew
11-09-2009, 03:00 PM
In what order will the teams pick maps? Going first is an obvious disadvantage. Atleast i think so.

Loli.ta
11-09-2009, 09:03 PM
bears bears bears everywhere... may we win the unbeaten ACE

We won't even get through Lobbystars.

protest boy
11-15-2009, 04:18 AM
I don't see the date these games will occur on anywhere....

Esoteric
11-15-2009, 04:46 AM
First two rounds are happening tomorrow, not sure when the rest are. Can we get some clarification? Are all the remaining rounds the next week?

Stormich
11-15-2009, 10:12 AM
I think there are gonna be 2 rounds each sunday, so the same amount as in the league

DMCM
11-15-2009, 12:46 PM
Is anyone gonna record IL vs fLb? :o

number 3
11-15-2009, 02:37 PM
Is anyone gonna record IL vs fLb? :o

Someone should record it...

classicallad
11-15-2009, 03:12 PM
if i see step around later ill ask him to record it :)

Flight 666
11-15-2009, 09:11 PM
if i see step around later ill ask him to record it :)

Iron Legends Results

fLb>IL 3-0
IL>DW 3-0

evilarsenal
11-15-2009, 09:58 PM
if u look at the first post, eveyrthing is already updated

Flight 666
11-15-2009, 10:58 PM
if u look at the first post, eveyrthing is already updated

oops

GOGOGO Iron Legends!
UP THE IRONS. :cool:

matattack
11-17-2009, 03:45 AM
Holy crappage 9am pst!
Mat must wake up at 8:30am on a beautiful Sunday morning! :(

*cries* with blood-shot eyes ...

CCN
11-17-2009, 12:23 PM
Holy crappage 9am pst!
Mat must wake up at 8:30am on a beautiful Sunday morning! :(

*cries* with blood-shot eyes ...

Mat's saturday night
"Hey mat wanna go out drinking."
"Can't, got to sleep early so I can play for my internets team in the playoffs."
*Mat goes to cry in a corner*

NastyManatee
11-22-2009, 04:23 AM
I'll make you coffee mat!!
Living in EST is eezzee.

matattack
11-22-2009, 05:41 AM
No whip. Thanks!
;)

mikesol
11-22-2009, 05:50 AM
I'm getting up in 4 hours to drive 4 hours so I can (hopefully) be at a place with real internet so I can try and play... We'll see how well this goes xP

Stormich
11-22-2009, 07:45 AM
I admire your will :)

EDIT: Was wondering why haven't you been visiting us the passed couple of days :D

Evan20000
11-22-2009, 05:13 PM
fLb beat FN, but we actually put up a fight this time.

TAYLOOP
11-22-2009, 05:41 PM
Wouldnt you feel awkward if someone else edited your posts?

Evan20000
11-22-2009, 06:07 PM
Stop making my grammarz badz! D:

Kuja900
11-22-2009, 09:12 PM
fLb v ACE THE REMATCH finals.

tyr
11-22-2009, 09:23 PM
You and I already know the result.

You can give up already, it would save some time we could spend playing SC (OMG TSL).

eth
11-22-2009, 09:56 PM
You and I already know the result.

You can give up already, it would save some time we could spend playing SC (OMG TSL).

but you just lose :(

matattack
11-22-2009, 09:58 PM
sorry fellas for letting u down :(
it was a great season none the less.
i think we had waaay too much fun today anyways..:p

Tosconi
11-22-2009, 10:25 PM
It's a pity SS couldn't do that. I'd love to see some change in the final :)

Anyway well done the finalists:)

PS: Does anyone know if FLB - Lobstars was recorded with tyr's commentary and if it's possible to watch anyhow?

tyr
11-22-2009, 10:32 PM
PS: Does anyone know if FLB - Lobstars was recorded with tyr's commentary and if it's possible to watch anyhow?

I'm currently editing the videos. There was a little problem during game 4 and the data was damaged. I think I managed to restore it but I'm not sure.
The other videos should be up on youtube within the hour anyway.

nobodyhome
11-22-2009, 10:33 PM
game 4 (the one on mayhem, right?) was recorded by dio, so it'll still be watchable (although it'd be nice if tyr got his fixed so we can hear his commentary as well as dio's)

Tosconi
11-22-2009, 10:40 PM
Tyr - that's fantastic thank you

NomNom
11-22-2009, 11:27 PM
ggs today everyone, a lot of close matches!
For next week's final could someone maybe talk to Vi about setting up the Lobsters cove (with default scale, 24 players etc.) as our match server because today's lag problems were just too much. It really detracted from the game, we need something more stable for the finals.

nesnl
11-23-2009, 01:56 AM
You guys are welcome to use captain's games server for the finals.

CCN
11-23-2009, 03:09 AM
You guys are welcome to use captain's games server for the finals.

some of us not privy to captains server would like to watchy the matchy.

Tosconi
11-23-2009, 03:17 AM
CCN - I think if you didn't talk in that manner, you'd got the access in some time hyhy

CCN
11-23-2009, 03:58 AM
CCN - I think if you didn't talk in that manner, you'd got the access in some time hyhy

Tangent. Does it make you feel good?

tyr
11-24-2009, 06:32 PM
SOOOOOOOO
When are we playing the finals ?

November 29th ?
December 6th ?

Would be better for some of us that it'll be November 29th.
Kuja ?

Kuja900
11-24-2009, 08:00 PM
Uh unless people have gone traveling and not told me I see no reason to move the time up from this Sunday the 29th.

Evan20000
11-24-2009, 08:10 PM
Someone needs to film and comment on the finals.

tyr
11-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Uh unless people have gone traveling and not told me I see no reason to move the time up from this Sunday the 29th.

Ok. Sorry I thought there was a debate.
We'll meet this sunday then.

Dio, if you read this, could you record ?

DiogenesDog
11-24-2009, 11:10 PM
I dunno, I'm not going to dedicate a huge chunk of my weekend just to making sure that I watch the nerds that beat my team face off against the other nerds that beat my team for 5 hours straight. I'll probably record a couple games and then get bored and do something else. I definitely cannot be counted on to record the entire best of 14 (or best of 7 more likely :o).

nigglebiggle
11-24-2009, 11:53 PM
WHB wants to get in on this action next season.... how can we do that?

Evan20000
11-25-2009, 12:41 AM
WHB wants to get in on this action next season.... how can we do that?

1. Stay together for over a month.
2. Participate in some of the preseason events and try to earn some respect.
3. Join Proleague #3
4. Don't scrub out in preliminaries.
5. Lose against FN, ACE, FLB, [||], L*, IL, or any other decent team.
6. Thanks for playing. Have a nice rape.

nobodyhome
11-25-2009, 12:59 AM
1. Stay together for over a month.
2. Participate in some of the preseason events and try to earn some respect.
3. Join Proleague #3
4. Don't scrub out in preliminaries.
5. Lose against FN, ACE, FLB, [||], L*, IL, or any other decent team.
6. Thanks for playing. Have a nice rape.


That was kinda unwarranted. These guys have done nothing wrong (besides being slightly annoying, but they're high schoolers, give them a break) and only want a taste of competitive altitude. Attitude like this from veteran players on the scene is stifling to the growth of competitive altitude.


To nigglebiggle, what you should do is keep an eye out on the forum for a post announcing the start of the league, and instructions on how to register will be in there. More importantly, you need to keep your clan together until that time comes (I don't doubt you, since you guys are a group of high school friends and not just random dudes who have never met, but the community has seen way too many clans who appear one day and disappear the next). In the meantime, practice a lot, because as Evan20000 hinted at, the competition is tough, and it is unlikely you will be able to beat any of the seasoned clans, but don't get discourage and keep it up.

Evan20000
11-25-2009, 01:06 AM
Fair enough, but like you said many clans disband after a week or so, so I'm kind of jaded. I'll try to keep the "new clan with potential" attitude as best as I can, but all of these new clans that die in a week are making that very difficult. >.>

nobodyhome
11-25-2009, 01:09 AM
True. I have better hopes for these guys though since they're high school friends and are more likely to be able to stick together. Hopefully.

tyr
11-25-2009, 03:13 AM
Kuja

What do you think of 2pm instead of 4pm ? Would be better for us, and many on my team just find 4pm kinda late.
Still on november 29th.

CCN
11-25-2009, 10:00 AM
Fair enough, but like you said many clans disband after a week or so, so I'm kind of jaded. I'll try to keep the "new clan with potential" attitude as best as I can, but all of these new clans that die in a week are making that very difficult. >.>

I'd caution you against taking this attitude Maybe if you can't be optimistic, indifferent would be a good place to start.

Evan20000
11-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Like I said, it's hard to be optimistic or even indifferent when we've had so many failed clans.

Kuja900
11-25-2009, 05:55 PM
Kuja

What do you think of 2pm instead of 4pm ? Would be better for us, and many on my team just find 4pm kinda late.
Still on november 29th.

Il think about it, need to talk to some people first. Would make it so I dont have to set my alarm to wake up but then I doubt il have be able to do anything with my evening lol. I guess im for it though.

eth
11-26-2009, 04:12 PM
Isnt that like 22.00 for us euros? How is that late in any way? :P

NomNom
11-26-2009, 04:33 PM
2pm would be much better for me as well.

tyr
11-26-2009, 04:37 PM
Isnt that like 22.00 for us euros? How is that late in any way? :P

Yeah I personally don't really care but some people on my team said that it was kinda late for them. Ask them, not me, maybe they have to do something later.

Anyway yeah. 2pm ET plx.

Stormich
11-26-2009, 04:51 PM
I think earlier is better for USers too since they have thanksgiving dinner later afaik

nigglebiggle
11-26-2009, 04:54 PM
That was kinda unwarranted. These guys have done nothing wrong (besides being slightly annoying, but they're high schoolers, give them a break) and only want a taste of competitive altitude. Attitude like this from veteran players on the scene is stifling to the growth of competitive altitude.


To nigglebiggle, what you should do is keep an eye out on the forum for a post announcing the start of the league, and instructions on how to register will be in there. More importantly, you need to keep your clan together until that time comes (I don't doubt you, since you guys are a group of high school friends and not just random dudes who have never met, but the community has seen way too many clans who appear one day and disappear the next). In the meantime, practice a lot, because as Evan20000 hinted at, the competition is tough, and it is unlikely you will be able to beat any of the seasoned clans, but don't get discourage and keep it up.

Thanks for a legit answer. We've been together a while and yes i know, we get raped by ACE and FLB

NomNom
11-28-2009, 03:38 PM
You guys are welcome to use captain's games server for the finals.

Thanks maimer, sounds good!
Would it be possible to change the password to the proleague server password just for tomorrow so everyone can join? Maybe change the name to proleague finals as well if you can.

Evan20000
11-28-2009, 04:42 PM
Thanks maimer, sounds good!
Would it be possible to change the password to the proleague server password just for tomorrow so everyone can join? Maybe change the name to proleague finals as well if you can.

That kind of defeats the point. The idea of using the cappie server is so that it won't fill up with nubs.

NomNom
11-28-2009, 04:57 PM
That kind of defeats the point. The idea of using the cappie server is so that it won't fill up with nubs.

We want to use it tomorrow for the proleague finals, after that the password can be changed back again...

nesnl
11-28-2009, 06:40 PM
Yeah, I can probably do that. The server is located in Philadelphia so the pings for the foreigners is generally better than they get on the ProLeague Servers. Make sure to let me know if there are any maps missing, etc.

NomNom
11-28-2009, 07:02 PM
Alright cool. Checked it out just now, all the maps seem to be there.

Kuja900
11-30-2009, 01:52 AM
fLb > ACE 4-3 in come back fashion after being down 0-3 :). Super Grand Mega Final Dec 13th.

tyr
11-30-2009, 07:22 AM
You think you can be this lucky again ?
Apparently it's the only way you can win matches ..

edit : also, don't be more than 10 minutes late. Or else.

Kuja900
11-30-2009, 11:48 AM
You think you can be this lucky again ?
Apparently it's the only way you can win matches ..

edit : also, don't be more than 10 minutes late. Or else.

How were we lucky? Your entire team was there you could have sent in any roster of players you wanted. ACE was at full capacity and they lost 4 times in a row.

NomNom
11-30-2009, 02:03 PM
Maimer thanks a lot for the server! It was much more stable than the proleague servers. I hope we'll be able to use it for the next bo7 on the 13th as well.

nesnl
11-30-2009, 07:15 PM
Maimer thanks a lot for the server! It was much more stable than the proleague servers. I hope we'll be able to use it for the next bo7 on the 13th as well.

Really? I thought it was actually worse in terms of people having individual lag spikes. I guess on the regular servers the benefit is that when everyone gets kicked that it is affecting everyone. I will gladly set it up again, but I thought I saw quite a few lag bombs during the few games I saw on that server. I guess I will set it up again and then you guys can decide where you want to play.

NomNom
11-30-2009, 08:22 PM
Well Zidane had constant lag spikes and he was their main bomb runner so obv there were some lag bombs but he was lagging in both servers, his connection was just messed up. Other than him everyone's ping seemed stable. The server didn't crash and there weren't any big lagspikes aside from that one time on middleground but after you reset it there were no probs.
Much more stable than the proleague servers that's for sure.

DiogenesDog
11-30-2009, 09:47 PM
It's not my server so I can't OFFICIALLY offer it, but I"m pretty sure Vi would be cool with you guys using the Lobstar Cove or one of the New England servers. they've always been stable for me, and they have the added benefit of being on the east coast, so euros ping slightly better to em. easy enough to set them up with the appropriate maps and whatnot.

ZidaneTribal
12-03-2009, 01:35 AM
hopefully everyone shows up to finals so i can have some fun. the week of altitude finals is also during the finals for school XD. i'll make sure that i dont bring lag this time around and i'll even do a little preparing this time :cool:

eth
12-03-2009, 05:17 PM
We all want to make sure you have fun zid..

OR DO WE

pig_bomb
12-03-2009, 05:35 PM
your mind games are bad

OR ARE THEY

eth
12-03-2009, 05:36 PM
I'm not quite sure what you're talking about, good sir..

OR AM I

Stormich
12-03-2009, 05:40 PM
I'm drunk

OR AM I

MUAHAHAH

tyr
12-03-2009, 05:48 PM
I'm drunk

OR AM I

MUAHAHAH

I'm pretty sure you are.

Loli.ta
12-04-2009, 12:21 AM
Perhaps.

OR

PERHAPS NOT?

Stormy is drunk.

nesnl
12-04-2009, 02:11 AM
We should have a drunkatude (drunk altitude) face off!

Stormich v. Texas

Let the games begin!

evilarsenal
12-04-2009, 02:25 AM
king wins obv

tyr
12-08-2009, 10:13 PM
1pm this sunday ?
Or 2pm ?

Also, if you guys are 10 minutes late, your ass is DQd
You were 1 hour late last week, that's just lol.

Kuja900
12-08-2009, 10:26 PM
1pm this sunday ?
Or 2pm ?

Also, if you guys are 10 minutes late, your ass is DQd
You were 1 hour late last week, that's just lol.

Tyr quit your tough frenchmen bs this league isnt ending with DQ lol. 4pm works better for us actually.

tyr
12-08-2009, 10:35 PM
We all agreed that 4pm is kinda late.

Kuja, this time I'm not waiting 1 hour before you get your team ready to play.
Do what you need to do or I'll do what I need to do.

Kuja900
12-08-2009, 10:38 PM
We all agreed that 4pm is kinda late.

Kuja, this time I'm not waiting 1 hour before you get your team ready to play.
Do what you need to do or I'll do what I need to do.

You waited an hour for us we waited a week for you, I think were even. Hows 3pm sound?

tyr
12-08-2009, 10:41 PM
I guess I'll have to check with the team.

And you didn't wait 1 week since we warned you before the match that if a second match was needed it wouldn't be the 6th.
It's not like you who had your team ready 1 hour after the time we both fixed.

CCN
12-11-2009, 03:13 PM
I guess I'll have to check with the team.

And you didn't wait 1 week since we warned you before the match that if a second match was needed it wouldn't be the 6th.
It's not like you who had your team ready 1 hour after the time we both fixed.

what time we lookin at for Sun night folks

Kuja900
12-11-2009, 04:25 PM
what time we lookin at for Sun night folks

3pm EST for all those interested in recording.

CCN
12-11-2009, 04:54 PM
3pm EST for all those interested in recording.

Thanks for the heads up.

nesnl
12-11-2009, 11:48 PM
No rubber hull allowed... I will be watching for you Kuja!

CCN
12-12-2009, 04:31 PM
No rubber hull allowed... I will be watching for you Kuja!

bad news peeps I got a big poker tourney at exactly 3.
Please try and get another recorder, i'm setting up a second laptop to record while I play but at times it'll just be random focus.

Especially since pots are limited it may be in your best interests to use it for a primary recorder >_>

ZidaneTribal
12-14-2009, 03:32 AM
when will we see VODS from diogenes?

DiogenesDog
12-14-2009, 12:15 PM
Probably tonight. Need to go through and combine/process them still. Might be later this week, I'm pretty lazy. :o

tyr
12-16-2009, 04:44 PM
Any news on this ?

DiogenesDog
12-16-2009, 08:46 PM
Nope, still lazy. :o

Honestly I haven't really had time to sit down for an hour or so and get it all worked out. The commentary and games are both bad anyway though, you're not missing anything. Especially since you were there. :)

tyr
12-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Pleaaaaaaaase ?

Even though games weren't great I guess, it really would be cool to see us play, see what mistakes we did and stuff. Usually only I record so there aren't that many recent ACE televised games (except the ones I recorded in FPVOD but you can't really see the global action here).
Plus it still is the finals so I'd really like to include this in our team page ...

DiogenesDog
12-20-2009, 04:01 PM
oh argh, completely forgot about this. I'll go look right now before I go on vacation tomorrow!

EDIT: Okay, they're up now, you can find the playlist here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Vr4bk-GXQ&feature=PlayList&p=D8C06544A655B92E&index=0&playnext=1

Bit of a glitch where the first couple minutes of the 2nd game is missing, but otherwise should be okay.

Also, what the hell is with youtube having the least intuitive UI ****ing ever? My god, it's like they TRIED to make it a pain in the ass to set up a playlist and then find the link for it. Unbelievable that they can make billions and still not be able to figure this **** out.

Stormich
12-20-2009, 10:13 PM
Nicely done Dio :)

Evan20000
12-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Posted a fix for your glitch in the comment box.

tyr
12-20-2009, 10:47 PM
Also, what the hell is with youtube having the least intuitive UI ****ing ever? My god, it's like they TRIED to make it a pain in the ass to set up a playlist and then find the link for it. Unbelievable that they can make billions and still not be able to figure this **** out.

Yeah it took me literally 20 minutes to find out how to make playlists the first time I needed one.
Their UI definitely needs to be worked on.

Thanks a lot for the videos ! :)

Evan20000
12-20-2009, 10:56 PM
Kuja is reffered to as a "he" in Dio's vids.

+1 to Dio.

Stormich
12-21-2009, 04:54 AM
btw we don't play to be the best :P we play for fun, the other thing is just icing on the cake :D

DiogenesDog
12-21-2009, 06:30 AM
yeah, whateva. you guys are like the koreans in Best of the Best.

Stormich
12-21-2009, 07:45 AM
lol, the koreans didn't play fair :P and how the hell did you remember that movie lol

GGQ
12-21-2009, 06:48 PM
btw we don't play to be the best :P we play for fun, the other thing is just icing on the cake :D

This is true, also the relationship between fLb and ACE isn't nearly as antagonistic as Dio made it out to be :). Of course, between close rivals theres always gonna be tension, but there's actually a TL altitude channel where members of ACE and fLb hang out to talk and, lately, play bad games like HoN. On the whole we get along quite well.

Also, thanks for the videos, who's with me to ban Middlegrounds from future APLs on the grounds of it taking way too long?

Kuja900
12-21-2009, 08:15 PM
I actually think Middleground is a lot of fun 5v5, am I alone?

tyr
12-21-2009, 08:41 PM
It's definitely different than any other map, it has its own style and I guess that's why we have different maps.
Like Lost City or Locomotion, who also are usually hated in pubs, are really good maps for 5v5.

nesnl
12-21-2009, 08:44 PM
I could change middleground by making it taller. That way you could fly over the tops of the middle buildings like in lost city. Thoughts??

Kuja900
12-21-2009, 08:50 PM
Hrmm we could try a test version of that but then the map loses its unique play style imo.

GGQ
12-21-2009, 08:53 PM
Unique play styles are good, but when the unique play style causes games on that map to be far, far longer than games on other maps in almost every single series, I'm not sure if that map's particular uniqueness is a good thing. That's all I'm saying.