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Karl
03-14-2009, 11:45 PM
Installed media wiki at http://nimblygames.com/wiki

A great example wiki and one that Altitude will strive to be like is http://www.dota-allstars.com/wiki/DAWiki:Main_Page

My vision for what it should and will have someday is:


Altitude Manual

System requirements
other general game info
Planes

Biplane

List abilities like http://www.dota-allstars.com/wiki/Admiral
Various play strategies etc.

Bomber
Loopy
Miranda
Explodet

Perks

Red perks
Green Perks
Blue Perks

Game modes

TBD

stategies

FFA


Altitude Editor Manual
Altitude Server Manual


Any and all community help would be greatly appreciated.

lamsbro
03-15-2009, 06:16 AM
Let me be the first to say "wtf, how do I use this thing?"

nesnl
03-15-2009, 06:56 AM
I threw up the basic frame work for the links you specified. That way the links will direct to "blank" pages that people can begin to edit. Hopefully someone else can come along and fix it up nice.

Dre__
03-15-2009, 02:26 PM
It looks like the users can change any text on any page, but only the administrator can access the files to change the look of the pages. Logo, Background ect.

We can add the info, but it's up to karl to make it look good. Don't fail dude.

ZellSF
03-15-2009, 03:31 PM
Part 3: (essential): Bitch and moan about the Mirandas being gay
Explodet players do that? really? explodets are like ideal miranda counters...

Karl
03-15-2009, 04:58 PM
It looks like the users can change any text on any page, but only the administrator can access the files to change the look of the pages. Logo, Background ect.

We can add the info, but it's up to karl to make it look good. Don't fail dude.

If you know of some nice examples skins i can work off of that would be a great help.

Dre__
03-15-2009, 10:22 PM
I was thinking we can use the images from the main altitude page (http://www.altitudegame.com). The "ALTITUDE" pic with the planes can be at the top and the background of the altitude page can be the background of the wiki page.

Like the dota page look. (http://www.dota-allstars.com/wiki/DAWiki:Main_Page)

If all else fails, maybe lam's artist can hook it up. but that's all upto lam.

chiriacm
03-16-2009, 07:15 AM
Explodet players do that? really? explodets are like ideal miranda counters...

Imho, in the Altitude world, the planes (except the Miranda with the SF moves) obey some kind of (inertia and all that stuff) physics, them being the exception makes them sort of a wildcard, so they are gay per def. :p

Dre__
03-16-2009, 07:26 AM
Ok, I added a whole buch of stuff to the wiki page. Perks, plane info, map editing.

Still empty as hell, all of you post some god damn strategies! add anything

nesnl
03-17-2009, 06:22 AM
If you know of some nice examples skins i can work off of that would be a great help.

After messing around with it for a bit it looks like you are going to have to do most of the stuff involving the whole feel of the wiki on the admin side of it. I found a site that has some templates you could install if you see one you like:

http://www.dokuwiki.org/template

skywalker
03-17-2009, 01:45 PM
We need a logo. I have the old Altitude logo and once I get home I can find it on my home computer.

nesnl
03-17-2009, 11:15 PM
So basically it looks like whoever the admin is will have to edit the CSS files to get to most of the stuff that modifies the layout of the page.

nesnl
03-19-2009, 09:44 PM
I updated the Biplane page and the Biplane's Game Play Modes page. Let me know if this is the initial direction you want to go in with this thing. I will eventually do the rest of the planes if you want me to as I have read the information from them that was posted by someone and it's pretty much all outdated. (The first line about the bomber talks about not being able to fire forward and the Loopy talks about Woodstock.)

Karl
03-19-2009, 09:47 PM
I updated the Biplane page and the Biplane's Game Play Modes page. Let me know if this is the initial direction you want to go in with this thing. I will eventually do the rest of the planes if you want me to as I have read the information from them that was posted by someone and it's pretty much all outdated. (The first line about the bomber talks about not being able to fire forward and the Loopy talks about Woodstock.)

Yea, it's looking pretty darn good. Hopefully this weekend I'll have some time to play with some skinning.

Also I'm probably going to put the red perks under their respective planes since primary/secondary weapons completely change when you change red perks.

nesnl
03-19-2009, 09:55 PM
In that case we can probably just combine the "Game Play Modes" with the "Red Perks" otherwise it will be redundant. I will do that soon.

nesnl
03-19-2009, 11:26 PM
Okay, I did Miranda's pages as well. I have yet to do the "Play Strategies" Pages as I was hoping someone else could help write those. Also, I am getting my images by using the editor but for some reason it won't let me edit the perks of my planes in the editor so some of the perks I won't be able to get screen shots of unless you can tell me how to edit the perks in a test run of a map.

lamster
03-19-2009, 11:35 PM
We can put together some high-quality perk/plane images from the original source -- if there's something like that just leave a TODO: high-quality image. Just focus on in-game type images. Great work btw :)

nesnl
03-20-2009, 03:17 AM
We can put together some high-quality perk/plane images from the original source -- if there's something like that just leave a TODO: high-quality image. Just focus on in-game type images. Great work btw :)

Well I uploaded a bunch of images already and they didn't take long at all to make. So whenever you get around to getting those high-quality pics from the source then we can just replace them.

I need some people to read and either edit or add to what I already wrote. Need more people to get involved.

Also, Karl, would you rather have all the Green Perks on one page instead each perk on its own page? I could just set it up so that the individual links just go to their respective anchors on the main page.

lamster
03-20-2009, 03:19 AM
You're doing good work -- I will definitely go through everything and clean it up, fill in missing bits, etc this weekend. I know a few others will do the same. Getting the ball rolling is really key, and makes everyone else's contributions that much easier and more satisfying. Thanks!

DevilsAdvocat
03-20-2009, 03:32 AM
Okay, I did Miranda's pages as well. I have yet to do the "Play Strategies" Pages as I was hoping someone else could help write those. Also, I am getting my images by using the editor but for some reason it won't let me edit the perks of my planes in the editor so some of the perks I won't be able to get screen shots of unless you can tell me how to edit the perks in a test run of a map.

well, i wrote a little about the miranda strat, but its not exactly easy to do. I just tried to explain "juking" for bomb carrying in TBD... Its not really satisfactory though ><

Spirtz
03-20-2009, 05:43 AM
someone needs to add places for discriptions for things like bases, ace bars, turrets, ect.

nesnl
03-23-2009, 08:07 PM
Any more news on this?

lamster
03-23-2009, 08:15 PM
We're working on skinning it, but we haven't had a chance to go through and edit it yet. I'll do a round of editing after we push out the next patch.

Karl
03-23-2009, 11:34 PM
now skinned:
http://nimblygames.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

content is next o_O

nesnl
03-23-2009, 11:41 PM
now skinned:
http://nimblygames.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

content is next o_O

maybe it's just me, but all that is showing up as different is the picture on the main screen is gone and the background of the main table...

Karl
03-24-2009, 12:06 AM
it's probably cause you're logged into the wiki and your default skin is set to the non standard default skin of altitude.

click "my preferences" and then change your skin to altitude.

Karl
03-24-2009, 12:46 AM
main page is broken in IE 7 (works in firefox and opera).

i'll look at it more later when i get a chance... I dont know wiki code though so when i glanced at it i didnt know what was going on o_O.

nesnl
03-24-2009, 01:08 AM
From what I have read you shouldn't have to change it in your preferences, just like when I go to that other wiki site you recommended it doesn't require me to change any settings. There must be a way to set this skin as the default without having the user do it.

Okay, I checked out the skin, looks really nice and works fine with Safari. Would be nice so was set as the default skin for people who go to the site.

Also, if you want I can go back and update those images for the time being so that they have the same background color as the page theme. However, I know you said you wanted to pull images from the source code, so if you don't want me to bother then I won't.

Karl
03-24-2009, 01:59 AM
From what I have read you shouldn't have to change it in your preferences, just like when I go to that other wiki site you recommended it doesn't require me to change any settings. There must be a way to set this skin as the default without having the user do it.

it is the default. im guessing that because you have an account your skin is set to moonobook or whatever it's called.

Also, if you want I can go back and update those images for the time being so that they have the same background color as the page theme. However, I know you said you wanted to pull images from the source code, so if you don't want me to bother then I won't.

dont bother too much w/ images (place holder images are fine) but I will put up real images when i get around to it.

nesnl
03-24-2009, 08:47 PM
I noticed that you switched the main page over from wiki code to html and there are two reasons that I would not do this. First, wiki isn't designed with html code and overtime they slowly phase out different parts of the html code. So if you have the whole thing in html you could log in one day and it could be totally broken. Second, wiki code is designed towards the ease of editing. Whether you typed it or the program automatically put it in, there is a message on the main page that says "highly recommended to use an editor to edit this page." The html code is going to create the problem that people won't know how to edit it while the wiki code is fairly simple to look at and know how to edit it successfully. If you want I can go back and redo the wiki code from the main page that you redid with html and take out all the unnecessary code (some of it is no longer needed since you skinned the wiki).

Karl
03-25-2009, 12:22 AM
meh we could argue this back and forth all day long but here it is in a nutshell


i dont expect the main page to change offten
HTML is known to more people than whatever weird wiki syntax they come up with
I can use eclipse to validate the HTML
I can quickly check the html compliance in IE 6, IE7, FireFox, and Opera on my local dev machine

For example, the main page was broken in IE 7 and i Could not suck the wiki code out run a compliance checker on it tweak some stuff and quickly check for it working in IE 7

nesnl
04-14-2009, 04:13 AM
Just bumping this thread because there really hasn't been much addition to the wiki since Karl updated the skin. I assume Karl/Lam are still looking for people to get involved and add to the wiki. Obviously in the Beta things are changing with each successive patch and things need to be updated. It is too much for one or only a few people to handle, so the more people the better.

Keep posting your ideas/thoughts here as well!

nesnl
07-28-2009, 03:57 PM
Just a small thing, but wiki.altitudegame.com directs to a page that says "under development." Seems like it should redirect to the wiki main page.

gumbyy
07-28-2009, 08:37 PM
Is there anyway the developers could add data about the planes such as HP, damage, speed :) :) :) I know a lot of people are curious about this.