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Kuja900
09-15-2010, 08:32 PM
I would like to suggest an addendum to the ladder rules. In my opinion, mods should have the power to force spec players with the /assign command when teams are numerically unbalanced. If a team refuses to spec a player when a player on the opposing team dcs after some arbitrary amount of time (20 seconds?) then a mod is allowed to choose a player he feels is least integral to the team (not a whale or bomb runner etc) to send to the spectator box. Thoughts?

Evan20000
09-15-2010, 08:38 PM
I like the idea, but I would take it a step further and let the mod choose any player regardless of how useful they are. This would encourage teams to sit a player immediately and play fair or risk losing their best whale, etc...

Kuja900
09-15-2010, 08:39 PM
Yeah that was my thought initially that the team should be punished for not being able to spec somebody on their own, I do sort of prefer that variation.

wolf'j'max
09-15-2010, 08:41 PM
id have the time limit set to 10 seconds, it is really annoying when they are all circling in your base whilst discussing who has to sit.

Evan20000
09-15-2010, 08:44 PM
I never understand why there's so much discussion. There's usually one clear weak link in 99% of ladder games. >.>

Ajuk999
09-15-2010, 09:57 PM
1) If a player is forced to spec, what happens when the player that disconnected comes back - will the admin have to forcefully put the spectator back on the team, or what?

And if there isn't something to keep the player from joining again after he's been specced, he can just join again and again and again.

I think it would be easier to simply deal with a loss, then to implement this idea.

Hope that makes sense.

Kuja900
09-15-2010, 09:59 PM
If one rejoins after being manually specced hes guilty of a ladder rule infraction and receives a temp ban.

elxir
09-16-2010, 01:04 AM
as long as the mod isn't on the other team and "randomly" picks the best player

elxir
09-16-2010, 01:05 AM
1) If a player is forced to spec, what happens when the player that disconnected comes back - will the admin have to forcefully put the spectator back on the team, or what?

And if there isn't something to keep the player from joining again after he's been specced, he can just join again and again and again.

I think it would be easier to simply deal with a loss, then to implement this idea.

Hope that makes sense.

living with injustice because the solution is too difficult is how world war 2 started, ajuk

ufo
09-16-2010, 02:59 AM
i like how kuja nvr specs in 5v4 situations because of his self-inflated view of his worth to the team

classicallad
09-16-2010, 10:03 AM
i like how kuja nvr specs in 5v4 situations because of his self-inflated view of his worth to the team

lol, a little harsh, ima cap i never sit.

Jayfourke
09-16-2010, 12:52 PM
Bad idea.

Case in point. Yesterday, someone dropped out, so the other team pressured the player with the least kills to sit. However, the person with the least kills was the only one who'd bombed the base.

Logically, he can be seen to be more valuable to the team than the person with the next-fewest kills. But of course, there's nothing on the score screen that tallys bomb hits/saves, or any other pertinent information.

(If you're still following the story, the guy refused to sit, and everyone raged at him, cos most people who play ladder now are so wrapped up in their ladder rankings that they're massive jerks to anyone and anything that might make them loose points. True fact.)

Kuja900
09-16-2010, 01:57 PM
I never said the person with the least kills would be subbed its blatent 99% of the time who the best choice would be.

mjolnir416
09-17-2010, 08:57 AM
I never understand why there's so much discussion. There's usually one clear weak link in 99% of ladder games. >.>

And they usually refuse to spec, so...

Evan20000
09-17-2010, 01:13 PM
And they usually refuse to spec, so...

Unfortunately, this is true....

[Y]
09-17-2010, 02:53 PM
Unfortunately, this is true....
Lethal Weasel vs Panic the Pig provided some lulz on woods tho :<

hurripilot
09-17-2010, 07:40 PM
;75866']Lethal Weasel vs Panic the Pig provided some lulz on woods tho :<

Oh that was a wonderful game. Talk about the two worst attitudes in Ladder...

Boko
09-20-2010, 10:47 PM
Or you can all give nobo 9000 dollars to create a function that would auto spec (and keep him specced) the player with the lowest rating of the team within 10 - 15 seconds of someone leaving on the other team.

It's possible.

You can h8 me now nobo.

Evan20000
09-20-2010, 11:03 PM
Oh that was a wonderful game. Talk about the two worst attitudes in Ladder...

PM me a chatlog plox.

elxir
09-21-2010, 03:26 AM
Oh that was a wonderful game. Talk about the two worst attitudes in Ladder...

i'm slippin' D: