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Wok3N^
03-24-2011, 06:50 PM
http://challonge.com/images/brackets/APL5.png


Match win = 1 Point
Game win = 1 point
Tie = 0 point

andy
03-24-2011, 06:50 PM
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York
03-24-2011, 08:24 PM
IL is ranked last place wtf, this isn't right :rolleyes:;):p:D


Why does control always use 4 smilies at the end of his posts? Does he really feel 4 emotions at the same time?

[Y]
03-24-2011, 08:59 PM
IL is ranked last place wtf

I call shenanigans.

nobodyhome
03-24-2011, 09:05 PM
May I suggest that in addition to the way you currently present results, that the results also be presented in a matrix form? For example something like:


L* fLb IL
L* - W
fLb L - L
IL W -



That way we can easily glance the fLb row and see that they've lost against L* and IL, and that L* and IL haven't yet played, etc.

With the current way you may be able to see that for example maybe both fLb and L* have records of 5-2 but it doesn't necessarily mean they're even if L* won against PR and fLb hasn't played PR yet.

andy
03-24-2011, 09:48 PM
May I suggest that in addition to the way you currently present results, that the results also be presented in a matrix form? For example something like:


L* fLb IL
L* - W
fLb L - L
IL W -



That way we can easily glance the fLb row and see that they've lost against L* and IL, and that L* and IL haven't yet played, etc.

With the current way you may be able to see that for example maybe both fLb and L* have records of 5-2 but it doesn't necessarily mean they're even if L* won against PR and fLb hasn't played PR yet.

Sure wok3n can do it for you.

ViPR
03-24-2011, 11:00 PM
IL is ranked last place wtf, this isn't right

you read it wrong, IL is ranked 4th.

The teams listed at the bottom are not listed in rank order, for some reason..

andy
03-24-2011, 11:10 PM
you read it wrong, IL is ranked 4th.

The teams listed at the bottom are not listed in rank order, for some reason..

The seeds were random, wok3n did them.

Wok3N^
03-24-2011, 11:13 PM
Seeds don't mean anything in round robins anyways.

York
03-25-2011, 03:12 AM
you read it wrong, IL is ranked 4th.

The teams listed at the bottom are not listed in rank order, for some reason..

You are incredibly wrong, and it's quite sad seeing that I was joking anyways.

The seeds were random, wok3n did them.

See the post above me

andy
03-25-2011, 11:22 AM
You are incredibly wrong, and it's quite sad seeing that I was joking anyways.



See the post above me

Ya thats why they were randomly seeded. We discussed it together and came to the conclusion that it doesnt change anything.

York
03-25-2011, 05:13 PM
Ya thats why they were randomly seeded. We discussed it together and came to the conclusion that it doesnt change anything.

! I know that lol. I am referring to the ranks at the bottom of the list. Everyone is tied so they are just randomly placed. But once again, I wasn't serious so nothing matter.

ViPR
03-25-2011, 09:35 PM
You are incredibly wrong, and it's quite sad seeing that I was joking anyways.





lol **** you don't patronize me, clearly i made a mistake as i thought you did. Difference is i tried to correct the mistake i thought you made instead of being a ****ing douche bag. Show some ****ing respect.

You IL cunts are so full of yourselves lol.

Mt.Vesuvius
03-25-2011, 09:57 PM
Nou
10chars

Wok3N^
03-25-2011, 10:17 PM
lol **** you don't patronize me, clearly i made a mistake as i thought you did. Difference is i tried to correct the mistake i thought you made instead of being a ****ing douche bag. Show some ****ing respect.

You IL cunts are so full of yourselves lol.

Like a voipah. Love you buddy :)

[Y]
03-25-2011, 11:46 PM
lol he so maide

York
03-26-2011, 08:35 PM
lol **** you don't patronize me, clearly i made a mistake as i thought you did. Difference is i tried to correct the mistake i thought you made instead of being a ****ing douche bag. Show some ****ing respect.

You IL cunts are so full of yourselves lol.

Okay so we both made mistakes and you taking it to the next record won't help ****.


Peace - consider it official

Wok3N^
03-27-2011, 08:55 PM
Week 1 scores are updated.

Ribilla
03-27-2011, 09:12 PM
Week 1 scores are updated.

Don't points come into it? As in IL won 2 matches 2 - 0, but bong's won 2 matches 2 - 1, yet we have the same points.

Tosconi
03-27-2011, 10:21 PM
it counts for the losing teams (in case of area 51 and Lobstars), who get 1 point from a 1-2 loss.

Kennedy
03-28-2011, 03:14 AM
Shave The Fro!

MintzMachete
03-28-2011, 12:27 PM
shave the fro!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

udienow fro

York
04-03-2011, 11:59 PM
updates please

andy
04-04-2011, 01:02 AM
Scores updated, tell me if theres something wrong because i wasnt there and got the scores from the thread..

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 03:09 AM
it counts for the losing teams (in case of area 51 and Lobstars), who get 1 point from a 1-2 loss.

don't worry, these points are being accounted for, but they don't show. The challonge table doesnt offer this feature, so we can't show you!

andy
04-04-2011, 10:10 AM
don't worry, these points are being accounted for, but they don't show. The challonge table doesnt offer this feature, so we can't show you!

They do show!! Check the points section they are already accounted.

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 02:28 PM
They do show!! Check the points section they are already accounted.

no it doesnt, PR lost a round to Bong's, so technically, IL is in first but Challonge doesnt show it... Also, after first week, 4 teams were 2-0, but Bong's lost 1 round (4-1 overall), yet they were 3rd place in first, when the 3 other teams undefeated were ahead of them... challonge 100% does not show this

andy
04-04-2011, 02:49 PM
no it doesnt, PR lost a round to Bong's, so technically, IL is in first but Challonge doesnt show it... Also, after first week, 4 teams were 2-0, but Bong's lost 1 round (4-1 overall), yet they were 3rd place in first, when the 3 other teams undefeated were ahead of them... challonge 100% does not show this

He was talking about the 1 point from the 2-1 loss-

Ribilla
04-04-2011, 03:33 PM
no it doesnt, PR lost a round to Bong's, so technically, IL is in first but Challonge doesnt show it... Also, after first week, 4 teams were 2-0, but Bong's lost 1 round (4-1 overall), yet they were 3rd place in first, when the 3 other teams undefeated were ahead of them... challonge 100% does not show this

^^ Arsenal has a point though, why aren't 2 - 1 wins as opposed to 2 - 0 win shown in the standings?

andy
04-04-2011, 04:20 PM
^^ Arsenal has a point though, why aren't 2 - 1 wins as opposed to 2 - 0 win shown in the standings?

because it has always been done like this and we didnt see a point in changing it.
In the end if there is a tiebreaker direct-match winner will get better seed.

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 09:43 PM
actually, this is APL, and its always been done the way i said it... season 1, flb and ACE were 7-1, but fLb won 2-1, and lost 2-1, whereas ACE losst one game 2-1 and won every other game 2-0... so that 1 round difference places teams on a completely different place in the bracket. FN was also 7-1 at that time, and they got 3rd... because fLb was 14-3 in rw/rl, and FN was 14-4 in rounds won and rounds lost, ACe was 15-2

see, if its direct match winner, then wat happens when 3 teams who all baet on another have the same record?, fLb > ace 2-0 , ace > TC 2-0, tc > flb 2-0, all teams have a 2-2 record but who gets first place? direct match winner wouldn't even work.

even if the scores were, fLb > ace 2-0, ace > TC 2-1, TC > fLb 2-1, flb would be 3-2, ace would be 2-2, and tc would be 3-3, so flb would be first, TC second, and then Ace 3rd... but to ur method, there would be no validity, which is why every round counts

if its direct-match winner, then a team who did better in one game, gets a spot in playoffs rather than a team who did better overall in the season? That isn't fair. A team is certainly better if they won 2-0, then a team that won 2-1 against the same team. It's a huge difference, and i don't know where u got "it's always been like this" from, because that's a blatant lie.

The direct match winner is only if they have the same ratio of rounds won/rounds lost and same amount of points, otherwise the team with the higher ratio would win...

DONE ANDY TITS OR GTFO

p.s. also, a team goes 7-1, and they win all their matches 2-0, and lose 2-1 the only game, so they are 15-2... a team that beat them, won 2-1, lost another game 2-1, and won every other game 2-1... so they would be 7-1, but they would be 15-9, so the 15-9 team would get a seed higher than the 15-2 team? ur argument is inVALIDATED

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 09:57 PM
like i said, i pointed this out to woken right after week 1 was updated, so these kinds of things are being accounted for, just the format that Woken has decided isn't the best display, it is easier for everyone to read, if these rounds do make a difference in the end, they will be displayed but if it makes no difference, then they will still be accounted for when we display seeds and how everyone got their position

Currently, IL is in first place, grats

andy
04-04-2011, 09:58 PM
So what if for example:

IL wins every game 2-0 but the PR game
fLb wins every game 2-0 but the IL game
PR wins every game 2-0 but the fLb game

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 10:00 PM
Don't points come into it? As in IL won 2 matches 2 - 0, but bong's won 2 matches 2 - 1, yet we have the same points.

andy, here's the original post, and he wasnt talking about the loss, the rounds lost does not come into play, as teams were ranked the same if they won 2-0 or 2-1, as in first week, 4 teams were 2-0, but Bong's was ranked the same amongst everyone when infact, they were 4th place instead of tied for 1st... 3 teams were ahead of them due to the fact that they lost that one round..


week 2, PR and IL are ranked the same, or tied for first, yet PR lost a round to bongs, and IL didnt... IL is 8-0, and PR is 8-1, so IL get's first place, but the table doesn't show it...


He was talking about the 1 point from the 2-1 loss-

no

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 10:31 PM
So what if for example:

IL wins every game 2-0 but the PR game
fLb wins every game 2-0 but the IL game
PR wins every game 2-0 but the fLb game

then we look at the rest of the season, i just described this situation.. read my posts... this has been basic rules since season 1... If teams are an exact tie, if in this case 3. im in class brb fffuuuuuuuuu

evilarsenal
04-04-2011, 11:25 PM
ok back, i'm going to ask for screen shots from every team, and whatever team had the most health on every screenshot added, (would photoshop everything together), then they would recieve first place :)

that is, of course, teams have been taking screen shots :), if they havent, they will automatically be seeded lower than the other teams

andy
04-04-2011, 11:45 PM
ok back, i'm going to ask for screen shots from every team, and whatever team had the most health on every screenshot added, (would photoshop everything together), then they would recieve first place :)

that is, of course, teams have been taking screen shots :), if they havent, they will automatically be seeded lower than the other teams

Ok cool we will do this!!

Be sure to send evil all the screenshots so he can add up base damage :D

By the way i see what you mean but still what rib was asking was about points and round losses dont actually affect points, they come in just if you have a tie (so a team that wins all the games 2-1 is first no matter what)

Mt.Vesuvius
04-05-2011, 12:08 AM
I would have to agree with evil because of his logic. I expect fLb to tie IL when fLb plays the matches that they rescheduled. But who knows. They could get beat by 51 or BB..

evilarsenal
04-05-2011, 12:16 AM
Newermind gaiz

York
04-05-2011, 02:07 AM
These are my 100% biased predictions; UP THE IRONS!

IL 9-0
fLb 8-1
PR 7-2
| 6-3
51 5-4
FRO 4-5
KLF 3-6
L* 2-7
BB 1-8
DS 0-9

If the playoffs are single elim:
http://challonge.com/images/brackets/rawrrawr.png


If the playoffs are double elim:
http://challonge.com/images/brackets/asdfasdfasdffff.png


I really like KLF and L* in the playoffs. Even though I think they will get smashed and re-smashed in the season, they are a veteran team and they will punish | and FRO in the playoffs. 51 is also my sleeper pick. Although I don't think they even stand a chance for 1st, 2nd, or 3rd place, they can easily get that 4th place.

Ribilla
04-05-2011, 02:16 AM
IMO, Bong's beat 51 2-1, easy.


Also maybe fLb beat IL (don't blame me, it's 3:15 and I'm drunk)

[Y]
04-05-2011, 02:45 AM
Also maybe fLb beat IL (don't blame me, it's 3:15 and I'm drunk)
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evilarsenal
04-05-2011, 03:17 AM
playoffs will probably be 6 seeds, not 8, double elim as well maybe?

but yar, IL has never beaten fLb in playoffs, and this is what, 4 times?

[Y]
04-05-2011, 12:23 PM
4th time's the charm

classicallad
04-05-2011, 12:36 PM
double elim!!

York
04-05-2011, 01:07 PM
playoffs will probably be 6 seeds, not 8, double elim as well maybe?

but yar, IL has never beaten fLb in playoffs, and this is what, 4 times?

I said its 100% biased :O

Ill make a new one with 6 seeds double elim

York
04-05-2011, 01:10 PM
http://challonge.com/images/brackets/sadfuhasdfij.png

Tosconi
04-05-2011, 06:20 PM
Omg yorkey you made bongs PRElast (I'm just super surprised not the last lol), which is due to 1 point scoring vs 51 )) go change it till someone's seen it lawl <3

York
04-06-2011, 01:38 AM
Omg yorkey you made bongs PRElast (I'm just super surprised not the last lol), which is due to 1 point scoring vs 51 )) go change it till someone's seen it lawl <3

i made bongs 4th, which i think you guys can easily claim during the regular season.

Mt.Vesuvius
04-11-2011, 02:39 PM
Sorry if I'm mistaken but shouldn't fLb have 16 points?

andy
04-11-2011, 03:30 PM
Sorry if I'm mistaken but shouldn't fLb have 16 points?

its three points per win.

Mt.Vesuvius
04-11-2011, 05:37 PM
its three points per win.

Ok my bad.

evilarsenal
04-17-2011, 07:35 PM
bong's 22, il 24, flb 22, PR 21

Bong's will have 22 points if they beat KLF,
IL will have 24 if they beat DS
FLB has 2 matches left, 1 against PR and another team, but assuming they win against another team, they have 22 points and 1 game against PR
PR has 21 points if they beat lobstars i think?, and then a game against fLb,

So fLb has a chance of getting 1st place if they beat PR, but PR might not get first place due to rounds won/rounds lost... etc... so if PR wins they will tie IL at the top... but if they lose 2-1 to flb, they will have 22 points and tie bong's for 3rd so rounds won/lost would come in again...

VeRiTaS
04-17-2011, 09:17 PM
by the way how is it gonna go for the playoffs?
Will they start right away after last week of regular season? and is it top8 or ???

York
04-18-2011, 01:34 PM
6 team or 8 team playoff?

If there is an 8 team playoff then BB v L* in the last week will be very interesting, considering the winner gets in....assuming PR beats L*.

York
04-18-2011, 06:46 PM
fLb IL PR | 51 FRO KLF L* BB DS
fLb 3 - 1 3 3 3 3 3 3
IL 0 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
PR - 0 3 3 3 3 - 3 3
| 3 0 1 3 3 - 3 3 3
51 0 0 0 1 - 3 3 3 3
FRO 0 0 0 1 - 3 3 3 3
KLF 0 0 0 - 0 0 3 3 3
L* 0 0 - 1 1 0 1 - 3
BB 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 - 3
DS 0 - 0 0 0 1 0 0 0




Nobo asked for this :)

| has given up points to every team except for two - the two teams in last place (DS and BB) The only points either of those teams have scored was 3 points for BB agaisnt DS and 1 point for DS against FRO.

tomato man
04-18-2011, 06:50 PM
So, best 6 or best 8 to playoffs?

[Y]
05-01-2011, 06:21 PM
Il > ds 2-0

wuwu
05-01-2011, 06:31 PM
fix the fukin servers

why the official servers get half the ping as the apl servers
this is bs and unfair

Pieface
05-01-2011, 07:14 PM
Can we have a week off between the regular season and playoffs?

[Y]
05-13-2011, 11:01 PM
I need the results of Round 9's bongs vs KLF game for the wiki article :x.