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Xorg
04-07-2011, 11:37 AM
Hi. When joker had an idea about World Cup i have an idea with Europe Cup.


Rules.


1). If u want to play on European Cup u have to pick captain from each country/territory, and to assign for EC.


For example:


Country: France
Tag:[FRA]
Captain: Sunaku
Country players: etc.

2) Minimum size of roster should be with from 6 ppl till 15.

3) Europe Cup will start in Summer, in 19th June. If u don't like the date of a start, it will be reschudeled.

4) If any country will miss 1 match it will automaticly lose and if it will happen again, this team will be dis*ualified.

5) The Europe Cup will be in all EU private servers. Beacuse it Euro Cup and we don't like lags. The final match will be in AIR private.

6) Countries\territories will play in Europe Cup:

7) There will be 16 teams, 4 Groups: A, B, C and D. Each team will be chosen by referees.

8) All other countries which has less than 6 people will be in Rest Of Europe team.

9) U will able to wear country tag. Without country tag i would be confused.

10) As we'll start Euro Cup in 17th June, all captains must come to of 1 of the APL servers for toss-up to fill groups. Each team will be chosen by referees.



Italy: Captains-Andy, Tomato. Players: Luke, *ishui, Krash, Geims, Seeker, Gustav-8 people
France/Belgium:Captain-MadDog. Players: Pata, Tote, Val, Uburn, Arbiter, Nours, Mandubienne, S*uirtle, Fifou, Sunaku, Steph, Nol, Exited-14 people
Spain/Portugal: Captain-GUI.tar. Players: DMCM, Strzy, Braiden, Dana&SushiCat, RAM, Blackheart Omni Vanitas, mssv-9 people
GB&Ireland: Captain-Classicalad. Players: Trix, Rib, Yossarian, DancingFatman, Gee, Bukem, Ragnorak, Dougie, Prune, yank, Wolfey, CCN, SendMoreCops, Nipple-15 people
Holland: Captain-Wolf'j'max. Players: Beefheart, GG*, Wyrd Tomintator, Hollywood, Mystery, Inofaith, Stygma, Boko Inofaith-11 people
Sweden:Captain-Ingbo. Players: Jester, Kazabi, FrostTwig, S&W, Maleus, Void, Yking,-8 people
Denmark: Captain-Dangerous. Players: Tee You, Anders And, Vivaz, Noobzor, Nightost, SilverWing ,Arpe, Tortilla, GetSome-9 people
Finland/Norway: Captain-. Players: akkargutt, Kaffeleif, Valkyrie, Grimlon, Aaneton, Dakkaduck, Sick of it all, Suklaaprinsi, Jamoz-9 people.
Israel: Captain-Ninjus. Players: TwistedCookie, PnutBetterJelyTime, StarDust, TwistedDuck, Special, BOT 2-7 people
Turkey: Captain-Mahmut. Players: Starkiller, Vecihi, Deli, Onat, Teo, Pipican, Wuwu-8 people
Balkan Team:Captain-Mled. Players: Erratic, GoldenBoy, Grim, Stormich, Mistress, Veritas, -7 people
Central Europe/Baltic: Captain-Lakospeter. Players:Cpt.Slow, Takusia, Gontar, Element, Seadog, Joke, Bkla-8 People
Germany: Captain-Panic. Players: Hulabox, Surprise, Tekn0, Link2, Mortva, Luddl, Starscream, SkYp, Rip&Curl, Herr Frodo-11 people
Greece: Captain-Demuyt. Players: Genesis, Pidimas, Zeus, LeggoMyEggo, Fartface, Nire, Nik0olas-8 people
Russia/Belarus: Captain-EvilArsenal. Players: Xorg, Trendy, Strong Coffee, Farcaller, Kilimanjaro, Lisovin, Bkon, Arshavin, Unbreak, Tosconi-11 people
CZ/Slovakia: Captain-Joabeast Players: Neo, Cipso, Pecaaa, Loser, Aurel, Hranoid, Mavi, Lukek-9 people




Referees: Dougie, EvilArsenal, Xorg.




How do u like this idea? :D

Thank You!!!!!!!

wolf'j'max
04-07-2011, 11:40 AM
country: holland
tag: [NLD]
captain: beefheart
country players: beefheart, robke, wolf, tomi, boko, squid&thewhale, nidordib, wyrd, mystery, aking, Deus.

i'm up =D

edit: this roster is not the final, if we participate, just an example.

Demuyt
04-07-2011, 11:53 AM
EABL season 2 (european ball league) will be taking place soon. It is different from your idea since it is teams that have a majority of EU members that are allowed to participate, and not country-specific teams. Season 1 was a success, so I think people are looking forward to the next one.

About your idea:

Seems pretty neat and sounds fun. If some countries can get full rosters, why not?

Xorg
04-07-2011, 11:54 AM
Country: Russia
Tag: [RUS]
Captain: Xorg
Country Players: Trendy, Strong Coffee, Farcaller, Kilimanjaro, Tosconi, Lisovin,


Some ppl are not from Russia. But some are from Belarus or Ukraine. ;)

JWhatever
04-07-2011, 11:59 AM
Country: Finland
Tag: [FIN]
Captain: JW
Country Players: JW, Keppo

Bring it on.

Finland should be merged with some other country. Also, Squid är från Sverige.

-J

DMCM
04-07-2011, 12:01 PM
I like this idea, but neither Portugal nor Spain has enough players alone, there'd have to be an Iberian team. Even then we don't have that many players to choose from. I just went through ladder and looked for people who play in a ball team or just play regularly. And I think Strzy should be the captain, but I haven't talked to anyone about this. If there are other people in Spain or Portugal who I forgot and would like to participate, post or PM me.


Team name: Iberian Peninsula
Tag: [IP]
Captain: ?
Players: DMCM, GUI.tar, Dana&SushiCat, RAM, Strzy, Braiden, Blackheart

Xorg
04-07-2011, 12:12 PM
Country: Finland
Tag: [FIN]
Captain: JW
Country Players: JW, Keppo

Bring it on.

Finland should be merged with some other country. Also, Squid är från Sverige.

-J


JW add Valkyrie He's from Finalnd too.

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 12:41 PM
Put me in under Germany.

Demuyt
04-07-2011, 12:46 PM
This should help.
http://altitudegame.com/forums/showpost.php?p=101975&postcount=53

Xorg
04-07-2011, 12:46 PM
OK, tek. But i need full German roster and capt as well

Xorg
04-07-2011, 12:49 PM
This should help.
http://altitudegame.com/forums/showpost.php?p=101975&postcount=53


Thanks, Dem. But i need assigned countries. Oh, Dem. Are u french?

Demuyt
04-07-2011, 12:52 PM
Thanks, Dem. But i need assigned countries. Oh, Dem. Are u french?

Belgian. But since Belgium has no ballers and french is what we also speak over here, I'd like to be put with France (if the rest agree).

tomato man
04-07-2011, 01:15 PM
Country: ITALY
Tag: -ITA-
Captain: Andy,Tomato
Country Player: Andy,geims,luke,krash,tomato,seeker,qishui

evilarsenal
04-07-2011, 01:23 PM
Country: Russia
Tag: [RUS]
Captain: Xorg
Country Players: Trendy, Strong Coffee, Farcaller, Kilimanjaro, Tosconi, Lisovin,


Some ppl are not from Russia. But some are from Belarus or Ukraine. ;)

xorg sign me up brah, i can captain it if u want

Princess Squirtle
04-07-2011, 01:24 PM
5) The Europe Cup will be in all APL servers.
EU players have a bad ping in those servers. I'm sure you can manage to have EU servers instead : AIR and arr have private servers based in europe, for example.

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 01:50 PM
OK, tek. But i need full German roster and capt as well

Tekn0, Surprise, Hulabox, Tosconi.

I've not seen others like Starscream, panic, Pooper playing ball before.


So that's just 4 of us.

TwistedDuck
04-07-2011, 02:04 PM
LET ME IN!!!!
wait
im not in EU

DAMMIT!!!!!

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 02:15 PM
Combine Austria, Germany, Sweden and Norway... maybe Poland too.

Ribilla
04-07-2011, 02:26 PM
I'll play for the UK, but I'm too crap to be a capt.

After a quick look on ladder: Me, Trix, Yossarian, Gee, Ragnorak, Fatman, etc...

It could work.

Xorg
04-07-2011, 02:42 PM
xorg sign me up brah, i can captain it if u want


evil u will be referee of European Cup as we're going to play in APL servers. :D

Xorg
04-07-2011, 02:46 PM
Princess: About pings. That a good idea, but i need to put in what shall we play.

Tek: I can add Tosconi as German but he has Russian nationality.

Rib: If u are not good at capt discuss with other UK ppl and then sign up and that it. :D

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 02:51 PM
Tek: I can add Tosconi as German but he has Russian nationality.


If it is about nationalities, then count me out. I'm not european.

Xorg
04-07-2011, 02:53 PM
If it is about nationalities, then count me out. I'm not european.



nah. I was a bit crazy :P. I won't remove u from this roster tek.

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 03:00 PM
nah. I was a bit crazy :P. I won't remove u from this roster tek.

Don't think we'll get 6 in germany in ball unless we merge some neighbouring Euro countries with it.

I don't know how active the listed ones are, I know hulabox is active. Dunno about the rest.

Xorg
04-07-2011, 03:04 PM
Look at World Cup, where German roster is maybe it should help u.

Demuyt
04-07-2011, 03:23 PM
Replace Germany with Third Reich imo so they get all the neighboring countries :p

Tekn0
04-07-2011, 03:26 PM
Look at World Cup, where German roster is maybe it should help u.

I already did. And I'm saying I don't think most of them play ball and I don't think they are all that active.

ViPR
04-07-2011, 06:09 PM
I have a dual citizenship. Canadian/British so i guess i can play on the UK team..


EDIT: **** that ball sucks

Tote
04-07-2011, 06:09 PM
So Belgium and France would play together as one team?
July is just perfect, before is exams time and right after is... exams time (2nd chance^^)

Put me in ;-)

Xorg
04-07-2011, 06:31 PM
ViPR. If u are Canadian, I'm sorry i can't let u in cause it European. If u are British, welcome to Euro Cup.

robinb98
04-07-2011, 06:52 PM
how many from swe? me ingbo squid?

Xorg
04-07-2011, 07:00 PM
how many from swe? me ingbo squid?

I know from Sweden: ingbo, jester, frostTwig, s*uid, kazabi, maleus, iderik>inactive atm, yking etc. U need to choose captain from Sweden and then sign up. ;)

robinb98
04-07-2011, 07:42 PM
I know from Sweden: ingbo, jester, frostTwig, s*uid, kazabi, maleus, iderik>inactive atm, yking etc. U need to choose captain from Sweden and then sign up. ;)

i am frosty..

Wok3N^
04-07-2011, 08:18 PM
I am from Russian descent. All of my grandparents came from Russia. Can I play for the team?

evilarsenal
04-07-2011, 08:33 PM
ya man you should

evilarsenal
04-07-2011, 08:39 PM
maybe we should let outside teams in, and make it a world cup!

America is too big of a team to let it go, like they can have qualifiers for America's team, and Canada can have a team as well... Australia definitely has potential, and any asians team as well... any team that can have 6 players, is a whole team

Its only fair if people like me (live in america but russian) go to their respective heritages... i'm sure many of the americans aren't pure, but i think there should be a an american team, canadian team, and australian

another team from the outside from asia or south america, would add a whole new group and we would have 16 teams, which is an easy format for a world cup :D

JWhatever
04-07-2011, 09:54 PM
maybe we should let outside teams in, and make it a world cup!

America is too big of a team to let it go, like they can have qualifiers for America's team, and Canada can have a team as well... Australia definitely has potential, and any asians team as well... any team that can have 6 players, is a whole team

Its only fair if people like me (live in america but russian) go to their respective heritages... i'm sure many of the americans aren't pure, but i think there should be a an american team, canadian team, and australian

another team from the outside from asia or south america, would add a whole new group and we would have 16 teams, which is an easy format for a world cup :D

That would kinda defeat the purpose of this cup if this (http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5868) is going to happen aswell.

-J

Demuyt
04-07-2011, 10:28 PM
I'm also half Greek, but since I live in Belgium I figured...

trendy11one
04-07-2011, 10:42 PM
I'm also half Greek, but since I live in Belgium I figured...

Probs this is reason, why u dont have sexy french acent and only have ****ty headset with SHHHHHHHHHHH sounds.

VeRiTaS
04-08-2011, 08:47 AM
Veritas , GoldenBoy and Grim are from Serbia ... I will look up if we can make an Balkan team :P

TwistedCookie
04-08-2011, 09:07 AM
Country: Israel
Tag:[ISR]
Captain:Ninju
Country players: TwistedCookie,PnutButterJellytime,ninju,stardust(i f he's still playing)

SPeciaL
04-08-2011, 09:15 AM
can i be part of Israel? i know i'm Asian but pleaseeeeeeee let me be half Israeli :)

Flight 666
04-08-2011, 10:44 AM
Brazil is not in europe

BUT

according the rule 666999666 of the altitude immortal gods since brazil was colonized by portugal im able to play with DMCM team.

Xorg
04-08-2011, 11:39 AM
I am from Russian descent. All of my grandparents came from Russia. Can I play for the team?


rly? cool!!! :cool:

Ingbo
04-08-2011, 11:48 AM
oh sweden had a team, wouldnt have thought so
i think for the competative purpose of this competition it might be better to make fewer teams and divide counties within parts of europe like north, south, east etc.

evilarsenal
04-08-2011, 12:16 PM
no, the point of a euro cup is to see which country is stacked brah,

nigbo, ur a 1 man army bro, sweden will do well :)

Ingbo
04-08-2011, 12:28 PM
agree to disagree ars but thx tho :)

evilarsenal
04-08-2011, 12:56 PM
i dont agree to disagree, i like how we call each other somewhat offensive names, but its so friendly

Ingbo
04-08-2011, 01:08 PM
lol mine was actually completely unintentional kinda funny that u noticed it tho. i wonder for how long uve thought thats what i meant by ars :D
and ye ive told u to not call me that but honestly i dont really care its ur version of my name everyone seems to have one :p

Xorg
04-08-2011, 04:02 PM
Ingbo, I'll add u as Swedish capt. ;)

Tekn0
04-08-2011, 04:24 PM
Again... Do we have 6 active ball-players in Germany?

I see only me and Hulabox.

Omni Vanitas
04-08-2011, 07:57 PM
Team name: Iberian Peninsula
Tag: [IP]
Captain: ?
Players: DMCM, GUI.tar, Dana&SushiCat, RAM, Strzy, Braiden, Blackheart

You're forgeting the Balearics and the Canaries.

DMCM
04-08-2011, 08:16 PM
Oh sorry Omni.

Add Omni Vanitas to IP.

We may need to join with one more country anyway. If one or two of us can't show we're screwed, even though we have a nice team.


Also, Strzy suggested, and I agree, that GUI.tar should be our captain :D

JWhatever
04-08-2011, 09:54 PM
By the by, Tar and Dana are moving to England. Like within weeks.

-J

EDIT: I'm going to the army mid July, can only attend to the first games.

unbreak
04-08-2011, 10:24 PM
I'm also Russian

Demuyt
04-08-2011, 10:34 PM
I'm also Russian

lubliu pidaras

niet arasho, suka bliet

/russian

Um France has Suna, Val, Pat, Dim, Mandubienne, Squirtle, Uburn, Arbiter and Nours.

Omni Vanitas
04-09-2011, 07:11 AM
Oh sorry Omni.

Add Omni Vanitas to IP.

We may need to join with one more country anyway. If one or two of us can't show we're screwed, even though we have a nice team.


Also, Strzy suggested, and I agree, that GUI.tar should be our captain :D

I'm also a bit screwed up, I'm available the first 2 weeks of July but I'm free all June, which makes it a bit dodgy.
Oh and KLF.mssv (know him?) he's spanish and may be able to help.

Xorg
04-09-2011, 11:10 AM
Unbreak: Welcome to russian roster!

DMCM: Yes of course i'll add Omni Vanitas as Spanish and I specially chose tar as captain.


Omni: Yes i forgot mssv but i think he's 100% tbd player.

Dem: Who taught u about swearing russian words? lol. Btw. U and suna are my candidates as French Captain but i'll add Suna as u are Belgian. :)

TwistedCookie
04-09-2011, 11:59 AM
btw the Israel team should be merged with another team caus we're not enough ..

Xorg
04-09-2011, 12:23 PM
btw the Israel team should be merged with another team caus we're not enough ..


hmm. I added Spec as Israelian because u have not so many people. I can add 1 more. BUt i'll try to combine 1 country with Israel. Remember TC: We need 16 teams. :D

mssv
04-09-2011, 11:52 PM
Omni: Yes i forgot mssv but i think he's 100% tbd player.


Could I know what makes me a 100% tbd player?

Sign me up!

[F.M] Joker
04-10-2011, 06:28 AM
i think maybe Denmark will be enough, heres the ppl i know: me, noobzor, djnightost, tee you, vivaz and silverwing

Omni Vanitas
04-10-2011, 05:29 PM
Could I know what makes me a 100% tbd player?

Sign me up!

Yey, glad to have you :P

skYp
04-11-2011, 08:35 AM
signing up for germany :)

GGQ
04-12-2011, 03:18 AM
I'm Canadian, but I'm full blooded Dutch and have my Dutch citizenship, so I'll sign up for the Netherlands team :D.

sunshineduck
04-12-2011, 05:13 AM
where mah china team at

wolf'j'max
04-12-2011, 01:17 PM
I'm Canadian, but I'm full blooded Dutch and have my Dutch citizenship, so I'll sign up for the Netherlands team :D.

yay =D 10101010

wolf'j'max
04-12-2011, 01:18 PM
country: holland
tag: [NLD]
captain: beefheart
country players: beefheart, robke, wolf, tomi, boko, squid&thewhale, nidordib, wyrd, mystery, aking, Deus.

i'm up =D

edit: this roster is not the final, if we participate, just an example.

Xorg, please remove the dutch roster as this was just an example and not our real roster. i will try to get as many players as i can, so far we have GGQ and me =]

Tekn0
04-12-2011, 01:23 PM
Since I'm not German, (ich bin auslaender) I don't think it's appropriate for me to be captain of the German team.

So choose someone else to be the captain, and I'm still not sure if I'm allowed/supposed to play for Germany since I see posts about participating based on nationality rather than the location.

But it'd be cool if I can play for Germany!! :)

gustav27
04-12-2011, 02:25 PM
I'm half Italian and speak a little bit so if theres a la squadra di italia I'd love to join up or just like to be apart of a team.

wolf'j'max
04-12-2011, 04:25 PM
I'm half Italian and speak a little bit so if theres a la squadra di italia I'd love to join up or just like to be apart of a team.

hey Ross (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Schwimmer) how are you? =]

Tosconi
04-12-2011, 04:42 PM
Tekno - you can play for whoever you Want IMO. If this is about nationalities I refuse to participate in such a thing.

wolf'j'max
04-12-2011, 04:43 PM
Tosconi, i think this is just a play for the country whichever you love the most of where you have lived/where you come from

tbh, please follow this thread for the dutch roster:

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116594&postcount=1

Xorg
04-12-2011, 04:55 PM
Tosconi, i think this is just a play for the country whichever you love the most of where you have lived/where you come from

tbh, please follow this thread for the dutch roster:

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showpost.php?p=116594&postcount=1

So u want me to remove Dutch roster? lol, OK. But u have a lot of time to register cause it will start in July.

berker
04-12-2011, 09:20 PM
Thank you for adding Turkey
Tag: [TUR]
Captain: Mahmut
Players: Mahmut, Starkiller, Deli, Onat, Teo, Vecihi, Pipican
These are from F-16 Clan, others from Turkey (if any) may contact..

Demuyt
04-12-2011, 09:28 PM
Add Greece yo

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6423

Xorg
04-13-2011, 09:17 AM
Add Greece yo

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6423

Dem, i will put Greece, but u are already French Member

Xorg
04-13-2011, 09:40 AM
We need 1 more country for Euro Cup. Come on. :D

Patateh
04-13-2011, 04:56 PM
Hey , thanks for organising the cup :)

Can you add Fifou to the French team please

Thanks,
Pat

JWhatever
04-13-2011, 05:10 PM
Suggestion: just combine Sweden, Norway and Finland. Also, in the current Fi/No is kinda wrong, Kaffe is inactive and Spart is from US.
Ingbo capt imo.

-J

Xorg
04-13-2011, 07:12 PM
Suggestion: just combine Sweden, Norway and Finland. Also, in the current Fi/No is kinda wrong, Kaffe is inactive and Spart is from US.
Ingbo capt imo.

-J

hmm. I'll think about, but the problem is J,that i need 16 teams. Sadly, i can't combine Sweden and Denmark because they already have 7 ppl. But if u want to make Scandinavian team i'll do it, but i need more teams. As u can see i combined Baltic countries to get more ppl for Fin/Nor.

DMCM
04-13-2011, 07:24 PM
16 is too much, 8 teams is much more realistic.

Or 12 with some byes.

Xorg
04-13-2011, 08:39 PM
16 is too much, 8 teams is much more realistic.

Or 12 with some byes.

DMCM, u know why i need 16 teams? because we would have *uarter-finals-8 teams, semi-finals-4 teams and final 2 teams.

It bit the same as EURO-2008

Tosconi
04-13-2011, 08:50 PM
mate - the main problem here is, how are you gonna make all those people show up. You've got to have at least 15 people in each team totally dedicated to play in oder to make the minimum attendance rate for each team.

Right now despite a theoretically huge number - each posted team has maximum 3 really reliable players. From what I see "on the paper" only France might be realistic to attend this.

So (being against of any tournaments being connected to the states or nations) - i agree to DMCM, 8 teams is way more realistic.

Xorg
04-13-2011, 09:02 PM
mate - the main problem here is, how are you gonna make all those people show up. You've got to have at least 15 people in each team totally dedicated to play in oder to make the minimum attendance rate for each team.

Right now despite a theoretically huge number - each posted team has maximum 3 really reliable players. From what I see "on the paper" only France might be realistic to attend this.

So (being against of any tournaments being connected to the states or nations) - i agree to DMCM, 8 teams is way more realistic.

Yeah. Maybe u right tosc. But i've already registered 15 teams. And i can't take them off D:

Demuyt
04-13-2011, 09:23 PM
1) Why can't you take them off?
2) Why aren't we allowed to wear our clan tags?
3) Xorg since you don't have any league organizing experience, do you think you can handle this?
4) Teams as they are right now will never work

SendMoreCops
04-13-2011, 10:17 PM
I doubt we could get the players but maybe we could join with UK ?

Ireland that is. I know of 2 active Irish players. Me for one :D

yankinlk
04-13-2011, 10:19 PM
I doubt we could get the players but maybe we could join with UK ?

Ireland that is. I know of 2 active Irish players. Me for one :D

I can throw in with the UK and Ireland team Cops.

Tekn0
04-13-2011, 11:07 PM
Be realistic Xorg, even in the list of players you posted, I highly doubt many of them are active. Since when has Panic played ball for instance?

berker
04-13-2011, 11:14 PM
I think it's a good effort, Turkey is active with at least 7 people, we can train just for fun. And like you've said, who is not 6 or 7, or not active, may mix up or draw away. And then we see what happens in 2 month time.

Spartan
04-13-2011, 11:15 PM
I did a quick run-down of the teams and players and here's my suggestion:

The teams that can easily support themselves and consistently show up are Russia/Belarus, United Kingdom, France, and Holland. Italy, Germany, and Iberia (Spain/Portugal) are also likely to show up well, so that's 7 strong teams.

The rest of the national/regional teams barely have enough members to play 6v6, forget the fact that all of them won't be able to show up. So I suggest turning the rest into 5 teams (potential names in parenthesis):

Norway + Denmark (Skagerrak? Kalmar Union?)
Sweden + Finland (Gulf of Bothnia?)
Central Europe + Baltic (Central Europe still?)
Balkans + Greece (Balkans)
Turkey + Israel (Eastern Mediterranean)

Scandinavia is tricky, but any combination of those countries into 2 teams would work imo

This brings the teams down to 12, which is a reasonable number and, as DMCM said, can give 4 teams byes. This is just my 2 cents, but thought I'd offer it. Also, sorry for the confusion, I'm not actually Estonian, I just picked it because I like the colors of the flag lol

SendMoreCops
04-14-2011, 08:14 AM
I did a quick run-down of the teams and players and here's my suggestion:

The teams that can easily support themselves and consistently show up are Russia/Belarus, United Kingdom, France, and Holland. Italy, Germany, and Iberia (Spain/Portugal) are also likely to show up well, so that's 7 strong teams.

The rest of the national/regional teams barely have enough members to play 6v6, forget the fact that all of them won't be able to show up. So I suggest turning the rest into 5 teams (potential names in parenthesis):

Norway + Denmark (Skagerrak? Kalmar Union?)
Sweden + Finland (Gulf of Bothnia?)
Central Europe + Baltic (Central Europe still?)
Balkans + Greece (Balkans)
Turkey + Israel (Eastern Mediterranean)

Scandinavia is tricky, but any combination of those countries into 2 teams would work imo

This brings the teams down to 12, which is a reasonable number and, as DMCM said, can give 4 teams byes. This is just my 2 cents, but thought I'd offer it. Also, sorry for the confusion, I'm not actually Estonian, I just picked it because I like the colors of the flag lol

Throw Ireland in there somewhere guys. Two very active players wanting to play.

TwistedDuck
04-14-2011, 02:01 PM
since we asians have no matches or any Asia cups, and you need more teams,

imho, i suggest you make it The EURASIA Cup.

for example: teams: Finland, France, Asia, Russia etc.

the whole Asia will compete as 1 team, since we have less players

Team Asia: Special, Proggies, Botak, TwsitedDuck, etc.

Demuyt
04-14-2011, 04:21 PM
DaFuQ Greece ain't Balkans. Change that back to how it was before.

SPeciaL
04-14-2011, 04:28 PM
I really hope i'm with ISR...........

TwistedDuck
04-14-2011, 04:53 PM
Brazil is not in europe

BUT

according the rule 666999666 of the altitude immortal gods since brazil was colonized by portugal im able to play with DMCM team.

and since india was colonized and conqured by the british from 1600-1947 (as in my history book ) i can play for GBR if im allowed

SPeciaL
04-15-2011, 11:12 AM
then that makes me in netherlands because taiwan was clonized by them to...no, i'm with ISR!

Patateh
04-15-2011, 04:10 PM
Hi,

Can you add Steph to the french team please.

Thanks,

Pat.

Premier Stalin
04-16-2011, 01:01 PM
Im also England, never realised we had so many people :P

Bukem
04-16-2011, 01:56 PM
+1 for uk team

Inofaith
04-16-2011, 04:27 PM
Cup as in football?

why not make a Euro TBD tournament?

Tekn0
04-16-2011, 04:41 PM
Cup as in football?

why not make a Euro TBD tournament?

Cup as in Plane ball (I hope it's not just ball_football).

But i'm sure someone can host a Euro TBD too but this one is ball.

Valkyrie
04-16-2011, 05:40 PM
Country: Finland
Tag: [FIN]
Captain: JW
Country Players: JW, Keppo

Bring it on.

Finland should be merged with some other country. Also, Squid är från Sverige.

-J

I can come i think :)
btw J and akkar, never had an idea you 2 were fins :P

I AM IN
04-16-2011, 06:23 PM
add me İn germany and what İs the tag?

JWhatever
04-16-2011, 07:01 PM
I might be able to pull some more players for team Finland. Although these guys have played less than 20 hours of alti. Just don't close the teams yet.

Valk, et sää vaa satu pelaa zonee?

-J

EDIT: We'd like to add aaneton to our roster. Still fishing for some more, stay tuned.

Ingbo
04-16-2011, 08:43 PM
okay so for the swedish players, if anyone feel like captaining for us im okay with that. i dont know most of u anyways so it would be better if someone else took it upon themselves.

[F.M] Joker
04-16-2011, 10:59 PM
why did u put arpe on Germany?
if ur talking about the arpe from FC then he is Dansih

Xorg
04-17-2011, 01:07 PM
Joker;117435']why did u put arpe on Germany?
if ur talking about the arpe from FC then he is Dansih

Who told me that Arpe is German?. U, and i put him as German.

sky
04-17-2011, 01:34 PM
country: holland
tag: [NLD]
captain: beefheart
country players: beefheart, robke, wolf, tomi, boko, squid&thewhale, nidordib, wyrd, mystery, aking, Deus.

i'm up =D

edit: this roster is not the final, if we participate, just an example.

btw guys my dad is dutch does that count?

Nol
04-17-2011, 07:41 PM
Hey, great idea about this european cup. Add me to France, and tell me if you need one EU server dedicated to this cup.

Xorg
04-17-2011, 09:00 PM
Hey, great idea about this european cup. Add me to France, and tell me if you need one EU server dedicated to this cup.

Hi, Nol. Thnx for making an idea about EU server. As there are 16 teams and 4 Groups i need 4 servers. Can u do that?

Thank You!!!

akkargutt
04-18-2011, 09:56 AM
I can come i think :)
btw J and akkar, never had an idea you 2 were fins :P
Uhm yeah, I'm Norwegian :)
*sniff* no team for me...

Nol
04-19-2011, 04:45 AM
Hi, Nol. Thnx for making an idea about EU server. As there are 16 teams and 4 Groups i need 4 servers. Can u do that?

Thank You!!!

Well, I proposed one server ;-) But anyway, putting 4 servers online is nothing compared with the work organization will take. Have a look at the activity in ladder or APL threads. People envolved in such projects spend a lot of time in it, not just playing. Are you sure you're strong and free enough to do that ? Well, I hope so. European cup is a great idea. But I will not be able to get time to help you in that project except for server making. Hope good luck to you and play soon for France and Belgium in european cup ;)

Wyrd
04-19-2011, 10:47 AM
I did a quick run-down of the teams and players and here's my suggestion:

The teams that can easily support themselves and consistently show up are Russia/Belarus, United Kingdom, France, and Holland. Italy, Germany, and Iberia (Spain/Portugal) are also likely to show up well, so that's 7 strong teams.

The rest of the national/regional teams barely have enough members to play 6v6, forget the fact that all of them won't be able to show up. So I suggest turning the rest into 5 teams (potential names in parenthesis):

Norway + Denmark (Skagerrak? Kalmar Union?)
Sweden + Finland (Gulf of Bothnia?)
Central Europe + Baltic (Central Europe still?)
Balkans + Greece (Balkans)
Turkey + Israel (Eastern Mediterranean)

Scandinavia is tricky, but any combination of those countries into 2 teams would work imo

This brings the teams down to 12, which is a reasonable number and, as DMCM said, can give 4 teams byes. This is just my 2 cents, but thought I'd offer it. Also, sorry for the confusion, I'm not actually Estonian, I just picked it because I like the colors of the flag lol

Much sense was made here. Having 6, or 7 or maybe even 8 active and communicative people in a team is really not enough to be able to play, because scheduling would be hell and unlikely to succeed. One, just one, single person not being able to make it for a scheduled match out of 12 people (or 2-3 for slightly bigger) is enough to stop it from happening.
10-12 per team is a good number (of active, communicative players) that is large enough so it allows you to play matches at most reasonable times field a workable team of 6 with possible subs, and small enough to give everyone in the team a chance to play matches.

lakospeter91
04-22-2011, 11:05 AM
I don't know for 100% yet, but it's pretty sure I can play. I'm in Hungary, so you can put me in the Central Europe team.

I'll let you know of my availability when we get closer to the start date.

Demuyt
04-22-2011, 12:29 PM
10) Each team would have their own sponsor. For example: Swedish sponsor- Koenigsegg.


so smart

DODONI

SPONSMOAR OF GREECE

feta cheez ftw

https://www.christosmarketplace.com/greek-dodoni-feta-bulk-s.jpg

witnessmenow
04-24-2011, 11:59 AM
Throw Ireland in there somewhere guys. Two very active players wanting to play.

I'd be interested in playing if you guys need another.

Paradigm
04-24-2011, 06:09 PM
I'm from GBR :3

Whose classicalad?
Aint he a TBD Player :l

Also Xorg, I love the Idea, but perhaps you should organise it more.
Imho get some more help from the more active ball players ;)
Also don't think I'm trying to be captain but perhaps, players that are captains in different countries could participate like so.

This would help etc.
Just a few of my idea's

Also FT Server should be able for use I think.

A scoreboard should also be made.

Xorg
04-24-2011, 06:31 PM
I'm from GBR :3

Whose classicalad?
Aint he a TBD Player :l

Also Xorg, I love the Idea, but perhaps you should organise it more.
Imho get some more help from the more active ball players ;)
Also don't think I'm trying to be captain but perhaps, players that are captains in different countries could participate like so.

This would help etc.
Just a few of my idea's

Also FT Server should be able for use I think.

A scoreboard should also be made.

classicalad is KLF.class. Thanks for this little advice and thanks for ur help about ur FT server. :)

mlopes
04-25-2011, 06:22 PM
By the by, Tar and Dana are moving to England. Like within weeks.

-J

EDIT: I'm going to the army mid July, can only attend to the first games.

We're already in the UK, but we can still play for the Iberia team. Due to the move I've been inactive for about a month, but I'll be getting more active as I'm settling here.


Oh sorry Omni.

Add Omni Vanitas to IP.

We may need to join with one more country anyway. If one or two of us can't show we're screwed, even though we have a nice team.


Also, Strzy suggested, and I agree, that GUI.tar should be our captain :D


I don't mind being the captain if the team want's me to. :)

berker
04-27-2011, 11:39 AM
One addition to Turkey please,
nick: wuwu

wuwu
04-27-2011, 12:17 PM
that be correct

also dual citizenship >_>
waiting for north american cup

Paradigm
04-28-2011, 06:09 PM
Hey Xorg,

I understand that Cyber is hosting 4 of the Euro Cup servers,
Any chance we can use our Clan Ladder.
You can record the matches manually yourself as this won't affect it, but this will neatly record the data needed onto a table.

Anyway your call.

P.S Don't you think the server's should be called European Cup#1 etc.
Not 'Xorg's' as taking the credit aint so fair.

Xorg
04-28-2011, 08:50 PM
grrrr. Ok make 1 EU server. We'll play on other EU private.

SendMoreCops
04-28-2011, 10:36 PM
Xorg. Don't forget to add sendmorecops and yank to UK and possibly change UK to Great Britain & Ireland.

Xorg
04-29-2011, 09:49 AM
Oh, yes forgot about Ireland. Thanks for that SMC.

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 02:17 PM
oh sweden had a team, wouldnt have thought so
i think for the competative purpose of this competition it might be better to make fewer teams and divide counties within parts of europe like north, south, east etc.

Scandinavia!

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 02:18 PM
okay so for the swedish players, if anyone feel like captaining for us im okay with that. i dont know most of u anyways so it would be better if someone else took it upon themselves.

also if anyone sees void online let him know hes a bit a little bit active recently so he might get involved if hes aware!

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 02:22 PM
Country: ITALY
Tag: -ITA-
Captain: Andy,Tomato
Country Player: Andy,geims,luke,krash,tomato,seeker,qishui

qushui is like korean I believe!

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 02:24 PM
I have a dual citizenship. Canadian/British so i guess i can play on the UK team..


EDIT: **** that ball sucks

umm if this is legit yay!

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 02:46 PM
HiHi this should be the brit 15;
dancingfatman
banana
Vipr?!
Dougie
Class
wolfey
Nip
CCN
paradigm
Thornton West
send more cops
rib
yossarian
ragnorak
???

can it be changed to this? after looking at ladder all be it there are some brits relatively high some have play like 2 games. This team is a more active brit/eire team.

p.s. Vipr for dual citizen pls!

edit:I'd like to be 2nd capt with class and also put forward wolfey due to the fact hes a baller?

Xorg
05-01-2011, 05:03 PM
Nip, not bad. But UK roster already has 15 ppl. But i can change something.

A Nipple
05-01-2011, 09:15 PM
=/ we want nana/ccn

banana
05-01-2011, 11:18 PM
^_^


getridof10chars

Xorg
05-03-2011, 12:13 PM
Guys. We need Rest of Europe team. These players who are in other countries, let me know and discuss who will be ur capt


Thank You!!!

banana
05-03-2011, 12:24 PM
If we have too many for the UK team we could let people in Ireland(/Scotland/Wales) switch to the rest of Europe team if they want.

Dougie
05-03-2011, 12:26 PM
If we have too many for the UK team we could let people in Ireland(/Scotland/Wales) switch to the rest of Europe team if they want.

I'm happy to do that especially if it gives me a chance to beat the England team! :)

Xorg
05-03-2011, 12:51 PM
OK!

I got the groups now.

Rules: Each Group will have 4 teams. For each match, all teams will play 2 matches. Win-3 points, Draw-1 point, Lose-0 points


[Group A:
Germany
Holland
UK&Ireland
Russia


Group B:
Balkan Team
Finland
Denmark
Italy


[Group C:
Czech Republic/Slovakia
Turkey
Israel
Sweden


Group D:
Iberian Peninsulla
Grecce
Central Europe
France


If u have problem with ur team contact me or these referees:

-Xorg
-Dougie
-EvilArsenal
-Special

1st couple of Matches will start in 17th June. I'll let u know soon. :)

Xorg
05-03-2011, 01:38 PM
Euro Cup Week 1:

6 GMT

Group A:

Russia vs Germany. Referee-Special

Group B:

Balkan Team vs Italy. Referee-Xorg

Group C:

Sweden vs Czech Republic/Slovakia. Referee-EvilArsenal

Group D:

France vs Grecce. Referee-Dougie

7:30 GMT.

Group A:

Great Britain vs Holland. Referee-Xorg

Group B:

Finland vs Denmark. Referee-Special

Group C:

Israel vs Turkey. Referee-Dougie

Group D:

Iberian Peninsulla vs Central Europe. Referee-EvilArsenal.

TwistedDuck
05-03-2011, 04:52 PM
xorg i think june 17 beeing friday noone will show up at 5 or 6 pm gmt, most of them would be working or doing something else, make it sunday june 19th

wuwu
05-03-2011, 06:55 PM
i'd be working no matter what day u pick but ill represent team turkey >_>

and than team canada when that time is near xD

Xorg
05-03-2011, 07:35 PM
xorg i think june 17 beeing friday noone will show up at 5 or 6 pm gmt, most of them would be working or doing something else, make it sunday june 19th


Yeah u right, TD. Sunday is usual day for APL and 6 GMT is much better time to start. Thnx for that.

lakospeter91
05-03-2011, 08:31 PM
If you separate the Czech Republic and Slovakia from Central Europe, these teams will not be able to play their matches.

ps: even with the two groups joined, there are only 7-8 dedicated players (from 8-ball, arr and FC).

bradgillis
05-04-2011, 04:54 AM
you forgot BBQ

Xorg
05-04-2011, 07:38 AM
If you separate the Czech Republic and Slovakia from Central Europe, these teams will not be able to play their matches.

ps: even with the two groups joined, there are only 7-8 dedicated players (from 8-ball, arr and FC).


Yes, I know about that, lakos. and I looked some ppl from my friend list. Because i made mistake with total roster.

yankinlk
05-04-2011, 08:05 AM
add yank please.

HiHi this should be the brit 15;
dancingfatman
banana
Vipr?!
Dougie
Class
wolfey
Nip
CCN
paradigm
Thornton West
send more cops
rib
yossarian
ragnorak
???

can it be changed to this? after looking at ladder all be it there are some brits relatively high some have play like 2 games. This team is a more active brit/eire team.

p.s. Vipr for dual citizen pls!

edit:I'd like to be 2nd capt with class and also put forward wolfey due to the fact hes a baller?

Xorg
05-04-2011, 09:13 AM
add yank please.


Sry, yank. I would like to add u, but UK already has full roster. But i'll think about it.

SendMoreCops
05-04-2011, 09:34 AM
Didn;t you already have yank added last week with myself ?

I reckon you can;t have too big a roster. There are sure to be LOADS of no shows for various reasons.

Xorg
05-04-2011, 09:37 AM
2) Minimum size of roster has to be with from 6 ppl till 15.




GB&Ireland: Captain-Classicalad. Players: Trix, Rib, Yossarian, DancingFatman, Gee, Bukem, Ragnorak, Dougie, Prune, Paradigm, Wolfey, CCN, ViPR, Nipple-15 people







Cop, i've added u to roster. But i'm saying it 2nd time. :mad:

Ribilla
05-04-2011, 09:47 AM
Cop, i've added u to roster. But i'm saying it 2nd time. :mad:

Is there any reason for this rule though? I can't see it doing anything except create no shows, especially as you are putting these games in an exams period.

SendMoreCops
05-04-2011, 09:53 AM
Cop, i've added u to roster. But i'm saying it 2nd time. :mad:

I know you added me already :) I just thought you had already added yank also. No worries ;)

Demuyt
05-04-2011, 04:56 PM
you forgot BBQ

What? It's national teams.

Surprise
05-06-2011, 05:37 AM
Xorg,
i was living in germany. but i was born hold a british passport and i've now moved back to england, so please could you update me to GBR.

cheers mate
-Surprise

Xorg
05-06-2011, 07:59 PM
Xorg,
i was living in germany. but i was born hold a british passport and i've now moved back to england, so please could you update me to GBR.

cheers mate
-Surprise

Yes sure. But the problem is Surp, that GBR's roster is full and i don't know what to do. And I don't know what to do about German captaining. I would like to add u as GBR player, but I've already told u it full, and I can add u as German.

Sorry about that! :(

Sick of it all
05-06-2011, 10:43 PM
3) Europe Cup will start in Summer, in 11th June. If u don't like the date of a start, it will be reschudeled.

...

10) As we'll start Euro Cup in 17th June, all captains must come to of 1 of the APL servers for toss-up to fill groups. Each team will be chosen by referees.

You steve! Wat?

You can sign me up for the finnish team, although i'm not sure can i play..

keppo
05-07-2011, 11:36 AM
Add Dakkaduck to finnish team aswell

Xorg
05-09-2011, 07:08 AM
Add Dakkaduck to finnish team aswell

To Finland? hmmmmm....... OK

JWhatever
05-11-2011, 09:44 PM
Aight, I found one more player for our team, Suklaaprinssi.

I might get one more, depends on his plans etc.

-J

Herr Frodo
05-12-2011, 09:40 AM
i'm in 4 germany if its not too late.

Xorg
05-27-2011, 11:22 AM
Guys, as we're going to play on the same time, and we're going to play on the popular clan private EU servers as well. For those who are not playing in EU cup, if u want u can be referee during the match. Just tell me what match would u like to ref and i'll assign u as referee.

TwistedDuck
06-13-2011, 07:27 PM
hi euro cup

Knipchip
06-13-2011, 09:42 PM
Can I be put on the Dutch team? I'm from Holland, obviously :p

beefheart
06-14-2011, 05:21 AM
Can I be put on the Dutch team? I'm from Holland, obviously :p

Cool name then hihi

lakospeter91
06-14-2011, 06:13 AM
I do not think this will happen. There is SL on the 19th.

Xorg
06-14-2011, 12:13 PM
If andy knew that EU cup starts in 19th June then why he started SL4? If it starts on Sunday, i'll start Euro cup on 18th (if possible)

lakospeter91
06-14-2011, 12:41 PM
In any case, I want to let you know that I won't be available in the weekend, so I can't be the captain of central EU.

PACMAN
06-14-2011, 03:59 PM
can i make a norwigan team?

Demuyt
06-14-2011, 04:07 PM
If andy knew that EU cup starts in 19th June then why he started SL4? If it starts on Sunday, i'll start Euro cup on 18th (if possible)

How could he "know" if this thread was dead for months because you totally abandonned it >.>
Plus Skyleague has priority over this since it is more important and we don't know if this will work due to the poor organization.

Xorg
06-15-2011, 09:29 AM
How could he "know" if this thread was dead for months because you totally abandonned it >.>
Plus Skyleague has priority over this since it is more important and we don't know if this will work due to the poor organization.

It because that i gave an idea too early and i wanted to start it in summer. I hope that u know why! By the way I was away from my home and i couldn't update it. But i can do it on saturday. Because if I start it on sunday, this would be confusing.

berker
06-15-2011, 10:38 AM
I don't know this will happen or not, but I'm acting like it will and checking the dates etc. I can say Turkey is ready, but if it will be on 19th or 18th, it may be very hard for other teams, like communication. I have our 7 players' phone numbers so I can easily reach them. Also you can add 2 more players for Turkey, Tosbaa and umu. Thanks for your efforts..

tomato man
06-15-2011, 10:39 AM
Add bork to ita roster plz <3

Strzy
06-15-2011, 11:37 AM
If you are willing to make this work, can you at least provide us when the hell is this starting? Day and hour, also doing a new thread for EU Cup week 1, or updating the OP, would help to clarify this.

Thanks.

ragnorak727
06-15-2011, 04:58 PM
im with Strzy here, there is a lot of stuff going on atm and you really need to look at the timings in order that you will get the attendance but we need more details or the capts cannot get there teams there.

Tekn0
06-16-2011, 05:33 AM
Xorg.. do you even have the time to manage such a tourney?

If not, just call it off for now :) Nothing wrong with that. We kinda expected it anyways which is why I didn't put on those ridiculous COUNTRY tags.

ragnorak727
06-16-2011, 07:20 AM
you never used country tag cos you couldnt work out which country to represent tek

Tekn0
06-16-2011, 08:49 AM
you never used country tag cos you couldnt work out which country to represent tek

Haha Damn you Rag :D

Xorg
06-16-2011, 11:34 AM
Xorg.. do you even have the time to manage such a tourney?

If not, just call it off for now :) Nothing wrong with that. We kinda expected it anyways which is why I didn't put on those ridiculous COUNTRY tags.

About tags: Yes i know that it a ridiculous idea, but i've already said on thread that it would be confusing.

By the way. I have nothing to do except postpone Euro Cup, since SL4 started. And it will be postponed till 1st July

andy
06-16-2011, 12:21 PM
Just wanna say that while i have nothing against this tournament, and i actually try and support every new event, i really dont understand why i am listed as team captain when i didnt even sign up as a player.
Also if you feel that SL can take players away from your tournament i advise you to have this start after SL ends (after the 17th of july).

Xorg
06-16-2011, 12:41 PM
Just wanna say that while i have nothing against this tournament, and i actually try and support every new event, i really dont understand why i am listed as team captain when i didnt even sign up as a player.
Also if you feel that SL can take players away from your tournament i advise you to have this start after SL ends (after the 17th of july).

about ur captaining: toma assigned Italian EU team himself and u as capt. Thanks for letting me know about finishing SL4 date. I'll try to make it on 18th July. And if u want to help me with it, u are welcome.

JWhatever
06-16-2011, 05:33 PM
about ur captaining: toma assigned Italian EU team himself and u as capt. Thanks for letting me know about finishing SL4 date. I'll try to make it on 18th July. And if u want to help me with it, u are welcome.

I can't be the captain of team Finland if the tournament starts on 18th of July.
Unless anyone else wants to do the job, count us out.

-J

Strzy
06-16-2011, 06:20 PM
To me starting this the 18th of July just seems a terrible idea, especially if you take on count that some teams as IP got only 9 players and the attendance during holidays "sucks".

But again is your tourney.

rojo
06-16-2011, 07:00 PM
Here to say that although SL4 takes precedent over WABL- I'm going to be megapissed if AIR and tVo have to put off their final for this.

Spartan
06-16-2011, 07:25 PM
Here to say that although SL4 takes precedent over WABL- I'm going to be megapissed if AIR and tVo have to put off their final for this.

well it looks like this tourney is gonna be postponed anyway

Niko0olas
06-21-2011, 01:33 AM
hey, sign me on for the greek team ;)

Jamoz
06-26-2011, 01:36 PM
In for Finnish team if needed

[x Jamoz x]

Xorg
06-26-2011, 04:23 PM
Welcome to Finland team Jamoz, but unfortunately, ur captain JW, warned me before that he won't be availiable for EU cup.

JW, i'm sorry but i can't postpone it, anyway good luck with army!

Xorg

Xorg
06-27-2011, 03:32 PM
Oh by the way about time, start of EU cup is 18th June, 6 GMT.

APL: I PM'ed evil about next APL, and he said that he will start after SkyLeague. So, i'll discuss it with him.

Demuyt
06-27-2011, 03:45 PM
Oh by the way about time, start of EU cup is 18th June, 6 GMT.


mmk. In a year from now I presume?

Xorg
06-30-2011, 07:50 PM
Guys, i'm afraid that i have to stop preparing EU cup, because after SkyLeague starts APL. And special thanks for u dem, for ruining my plans. So, Euro cup is CANCELLED!!!!

Demuyt
06-30-2011, 09:19 PM
Guys, i'm afraid that i have to stop preparing EU cup, because after SkyLeague starts APL. And special thanks for u dem, for ruining my plans. So, Euro cup is CANCELLED!!!!

Uhhh...what.

Demuyt
07-01-2011, 10:32 AM
I'm waiting for further explanation concerning your accusation.

Herr Frodo
07-11-2011, 04:18 PM
sooo..... I call germany the winner! Nice work dudes^^.

dr. carbon
07-14-2011, 01:46 AM
What is a Europe?

Tekn0
07-14-2011, 08:43 AM
sooo..... I call germany the winner! Nice work dudes^^.

We win by default.

Ze Germans FTW.

ragnorak727
07-14-2011, 04:18 PM
give it a week and the americans will turn up and claim they won it

evilarsenal
07-15-2011, 09:18 AM
august 7th, august 14th will be the first week of APL