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Ribilla
04-28-2011, 05:45 PM
USA sucks IMO

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By ribilla (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/ribilla) at 2011-04-28

elxir
04-28-2011, 05:56 PM
who the ffffff cares about tbd

XX1
04-28-2011, 06:07 PM
who the ffffff cares about tbd

elixir gtfo.
Season 2 ranking is sooooooo lol

Ribilla
04-28-2011, 06:57 PM
elixir gtfo.
Season 2 ranking is sooooooo lol

How?

Apart from me, all those guy were around the top 10 for ages in season 1

blln4lyf
04-28-2011, 09:05 PM
How?

Apart from me, all those guy were around the top 10 for ages in season 1

and me, but i used some nub lazer back then. o wait

sunshineduck
04-28-2011, 09:28 PM
How?

Apart from me, all those guy were around the top 10 for ages in season 1

it's clearly because xx2 is out of the top 50

trendy11one
04-28-2011, 09:28 PM
USA sucks IMO

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By ribilla (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/ribilla) at 2011-04-28
1.Lazer is op
2.Randa
3.Randa
4.Randa
5.Randa
6.Randa
7.Randa
8.9000 hours of play
9.Dreamer
10.Randa

Goose
04-28-2011, 09:51 PM
1.Lazer is op
2.Randa
3.Randa
4.Randa
5.Randa
6.Randa
7.Randa
8.9000 hours of play
9.Dreamer
10.Randa

LOL

9. "Nip Nip"

[Y]
04-28-2011, 10:12 PM
Decrease randa warp damage.

Ribilla
04-28-2011, 10:18 PM
Well Andy kind of plays all 5 planes as does Synnik. Also can I point out that they are all different kinds of randa. Just becuase we don't have one **** red perk that no one uses, don't punish us because there are essentially 3 randa playstyles to ever other plane's 1/2.

QQs about randa (despite beating them all)
TA
laser
MANY PLANES
TA
laser
trick
Remote
Bomber
MANY PLANES.

At least this shows all the randa varients are kind of balanced.

XX1
04-28-2011, 10:39 PM
it's clearly because xx2 is out of the top 50

yes completely. last season 2500 in both modes.
this season: like 1600tbd? 1400ball? utter bs
edit: rank 48ftw - top 50

Clapon
04-29-2011, 12:34 AM
this season: like 1600tbd? 1400ball? utter bs


sounds about right for you xx2

mled
04-29-2011, 12:56 AM
Notice majority top 10 are TimeAnchors..Lazers..Trickster..
In other words Mirandas!!!

>.>'

OP?
Il leave that for you to decide.

Ribilla
04-29-2011, 12:59 AM
Notice majority top 10 are TimeAnchors..Lazers..Trickster..
In other words Mirandas!!!

>.>'

OP?
Il leave that for you to decide.

All this proves is that, if randa is OP, you are more OP.

IMO nerf Mled.

blln4lyf
04-29-2011, 01:03 AM
All this proves is that, if randa is OP, you are more OP.

IMO nerf Mled.

imo real men play randa and would top 10 regardless of what they played

Clapon
04-29-2011, 01:58 AM
k balln play something eles on a smurf and get top ten, ill allow you to smurf in ladder just for this.

blln4lyf
04-29-2011, 02:03 AM
k balln play something eles on a smurf and get top ten, ill allow you to smurf in ladder just for this.

i actually did this last season kthks

nobodyhome
04-29-2011, 02:23 AM
No you didn't. (http://season1.altitudeladder.com/profile.php?id=3ea297c8-0a8e-4e47-8171-8e77960c9270) Looks like you got only to rank ~#30 and from the looks of the stats you were playing randa mostly anyways.

blln4lyf
04-29-2011, 02:35 AM
No you didn't. (http://season1.altitudeladder.com/profile.php?id=3ea297c8-0a8e-4e47-8171-8e77960c9270) Looks like you got only to rank ~#30 and from the looks of the stats you were playing randa mostly anyways.

I got to top 20 with loopy, then ppl started bitching so I just went randa and got top 10. I lost like 7 games of my last 9 before getting banned which dropped me to like 15, and with due time people raised rating b.c of more games played and it ended at 29.

So top 20, and I hadn't stalled, I just stopped playing loopy. Close enough imo.

leggomyeggo
04-29-2011, 03:28 AM
Notice majority top 10 are TimeAnchors..Lazers..Trickster..
In other words Mirandas!!!

>.>'

OP?
Il leave that for you to decide.

Randa is not by any means OP. For one thing, this is like what? the second or third week in? Ratings are not going to be perfect just yet.. Also, imho, I believe randas will normally rise higher up because they have a larger impact on gameplay than other planes and a lot of them are normally bomb runners (who can decide how the game turns out).

Explain to me what makes randa OP with solid evidence, not just "OH look there's a buncha randas in the top 10, OP!!", and then maybe I could see your point.

Summary: Randa's not OP, so stop your b*tching and grow up.

GGQ
04-29-2011, 03:38 AM
Randa is OP

mled
04-29-2011, 03:43 AM
Randa is OP

Leggo Would you really want to argue with me on a subject that i have actually studied.

+1 ggq

Also, whoever said that its early in ladder your wrong even in ladder one near the end many players in top 10 (or even 20 for argument sake)were also randas

Now if you want i could give a list of the problems of what any plane perk faces when dealing with randas both TA and/0r trickster.

Goose
04-29-2011, 04:59 AM
I hate everyone that plays randa unless your name is Dragon.. EVERY OTHER RANDA OUT THERE CAN GO BURN IN THE 7TH LAYER OF HELL.. ALSO I HOPE YOUR DOG DIES

shmo55
04-29-2011, 05:13 AM
No you didn't. (http://season1.altitudeladder.com/profile.php?id=3ea297c8-0a8e-4e47-8171-8e77960c9270)

yessssssssss archiveeeeeeeeee

Clapon
04-29-2011, 05:25 AM
No you didn't. (http://season1.altitudeladder.com/profile.php?id=3ea297c8-0a8e-4e47-8171-8e77960c9270) Looks like you got only to rank ~#30 and from the looks of the stats you were playing randa mostly anyways.

sorry blln but you didnt soooo still waiting on proof and our loopy stats are p **** so i tend to not believe you.

Clapon
04-29-2011, 05:29 AM
also Click (http://season1.altitudeladder.com/profile.php?id=4e5fd18a-0da2-44c6-ae24-ff4552f99610) can i have the most inconsistent player award?

leggomyeggo
04-29-2011, 05:40 AM
Leggo Would you really want to argue with me on a subject that i have actually studied.

+1 ggq

Also, whoever said that its early in ladder your wrong even in ladder one near the end many players in top 10 (or even 20 for argument sake)were also randas

Now if you want i could give a list of the problems of what any plane perk faces when dealing with randas both TA and/0r trickster.

No I don't want a debate about if randa is OP or not. I'm open to changing my mind if you can show me why randa is OP. Although as of now, I still think that randa is not OP at all.

Show me whatcha got.

shrode
04-29-2011, 06:08 AM
randa is op. the amount of burst they can do with the utility they have is absurd. It's no shock to me at all that top of both ladders are dominated by randas. laser + warp is a ridiculous amount of damage really ****ing fast, that isn't hard to do whatsoever. It's about the same amount as a full bomber spam hitting u in the face, but bomber spam is dodgeable.

in my opinion, the best way to fix randa's OPness is to
-lower warp damage
-buff trick/ta charged shot damage
-leave laser's damage the same

This will fix the number 1 problem with randa in my eyes- their movement/utility move is a goddamn powerful weapon.

elxir
04-29-2011, 06:26 AM
...watchars

Clapon
04-29-2011, 06:32 AM
lowering warp dmg imo is what should happen

XX1
04-29-2011, 06:57 AM
randa is op. the amount of burst they can do with the utility they have is absurd. It's no shock to me at all that top of both ladders are dominated by randas. laser + warp is a ridiculous amount of damage really ****ing fast, that isn't hard to do whatsoever. It's about the same amount as a full bomber spam hitting u in the face, but bomber spam is dodgeable.

in my opinion, the best way to fix randa's OPness is to
-lower warp damage
-buff trick/ta charged shot damage
-leave laser's damage the same

This will fix the number 1 problem with randa in my eyes- their movement/utility move is a goddamn powerful weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tec27#p/u/10/UPYRIqYlANY Pause at 5:14
wut buff the randas charged shot....

Ribilla
04-29-2011, 01:26 PM
Leggo Would you really want to argue with me on a subject that i have actually studied.

+1 ggq

Also, whoever said that its early in ladder your wrong even in ladder one near the end many players in top 10 (or even 20 for argument sake)were also randas

Now if you want i could give a list of the problems of what any plane perk faces when dealing with randas both TA and/0r trickster.

But not laser. NOW WE HAVE MLED'S BLESSING. This shall remain forever quoted.

I hate everyone that plays randa unless your name is Dragon.. EVERY OTHER RANDA OUT THERE CAN GO BURN IN THE 7TH LAYER OF HELL.. ALSO I HOPE YOUR DOG DIES

Goosey babes :*(

randa is op. the amount of burst they can do with the utility they have is absurd. It's no shock to me at all that top of both ladders are dominated by randas. laser + warp is a ridiculous amount of damage really ****ing fast, that isn't hard to do whatsoever. It's about the same amount as a full bomber spam hitting u in the face, but bomber spam is dodgeable.

in my opinion, the best way to fix randa's OPness is to
-lower warp damage
-buff trick/ta charged shot damage
-leave laser's damage the same

This will fix the number 1 problem with randa in my eyes- their movement/utility move is a goddamn powerful weapon.

I don't understand why you think that laser is OP but not TA?

Also considering that there are valid arguments as to why randa, bomber, Whale and loopy are OP, maybe its just that bip needs a small buff.

A Nipple
04-29-2011, 05:47 PM
Randa isn't OP, people just need to learn how to play against them better. Basing it purely on ladder isn't exactly fair. It's a given that better runners will do better in the nature of ladders environment. Over half the top 10 are capable of bomb running if needed, even mat. IMO the thing that makes randa hard to play against is the reverse ability as it stabilizers it so much that it makes it difficult to loose control. If people knew strat better then the game would be faster and well timed spam/good aim and awareness would clear randas quicker without too much effort.

A Nipple
04-29-2011, 05:49 PM
it's clearly because xx2 is out of the top 50

haters gna hate

elxir
04-29-2011, 06:06 PM
randa is just easiest to exploit ****ty players with

it's not really better than loopy or bip at running unless it's in the hands of ONE OF THE FIVE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WHOLE FREAKIN GAME

mled
04-30-2011, 06:22 PM
tricker i ment by being able to do a 180 turn and TA.

It seems people forget an important component to mirandas so I will leave it for last.

-quite fast plane and does (a fair bit) of damage while catching to to planes.

-If it misses it Laser/Shot or Warp it will still have regain enough energy to pew pew the enemy.

-Not affected by Power ups to much. Shield has no effect. Possible to dodge missiles and Walls are they only thing that can strongly hurt unless the player reacts quick enough and avoids by a simple press of "D"

-In certain maps it can stay in cover and with 2 warps in a row it will reach the base.

- Heavy Armor 34% adds very much to the planes defence and therefore has quite a lot of armor.

-The plane cant be stalled!

*Others points were said many times before*


If anyone does consider nerfing the plane you cant just nerf the plane itself but how the power ups affect it. i.e take a tad damage of from its warp and a few percent from H.A

I think with very minimal tweaks the plane will be fair and we have to make it carefully so it doesn't make it underpowered.