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Wok3N^
05-01-2011, 10:24 PM
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Wok3N^
05-01-2011, 10:25 PM
Schedules/Rules/misc. will be posted here.

Rules: No players can be added to your teams roster. All other rules are the same. If a team doesn't show up, they drop out of the tournament unless if it doesn't conflict with other matches scheduled on that day.

May 8th - POSTPONED

Wok3N^
05-01-2011, 10:25 PM
Monday, May 30th

3 PM EST - fLb vs IL - Bo7

Map Pool - Asteroids, Cave, Lostcity, Focus, Heights, Core, Woods, Scrapyard, Grotto

Map Pool for second bo7 if needed: Underpark, Justice, Mayhem, Fallout, Cave, Heights, Asteroids, Core, Focus

andy
05-01-2011, 11:00 PM
- Playoffs Week one -

Round 1 - Bo3
2PM EST / 6PM GMT
[fLb] vs BB| - APL 1
bong's vs [FRO] - APL 2
IL| vs KLF. - APL 3
[PR] vs [51] - APL 4

Map Pool: Core, Woods, Cave, Focus, Fallout.

Round 2 - Bo3
3PM EST / 7PM GMT
Game E - APL 1
Game F - APL 2

Map Pool: Asteroids, Mayhem, Lostcity, Heights, Grotto.


Loser Bracket - Round 1 - Bo3
3PM EST / 7PM GMT
Loser of B vs Loser of A - APL 3
Loser of D vs Loser of C - APL 4

Map Pool: Asteroids, Mayhem, Lostcity, Heights, Grotto.


Loser Bracket - Round 2 - Bo3
4PM EST / 8PM GMT
Loser of F game - APL 1
Loser of E game - APL 2

Map Pool: Core, Justice, Underpark, Scrapyard, Middleground.



Semifinals - Bo5
3PM EST / 7PM GMT
Game G - fLb vs PR - APL 3

Map Pool: Asteroids, Heights, Scrapyard, Middleground, Focus, Mayhem, Cave.



Loser Bracket - Round 3 - Bo5
3PM EST / 7PM GMT
IL vs FRO - APL 2

Map Pool: Core, Justice, Cave, Lostcity, Woods, Focus, Underpark.



Loser Bracket - Round 4 - Bo5
4PM EST / 8PM GMT
Loser of G game - APL 3

Map Pool: Asteroids, Core, Scrapyard, Mayhem, Lostcity, Justice, Middleground.

N.B. VETO SYSTEM FOR PLAYOFFS:
- Right team vetoes 1 map, the Left team vetoes 2 maps, Right team vetoes 2 maps and Left team picks which map to play from the remaining 2.
- Loser picks map from there on.

Pieface
05-01-2011, 11:04 PM
Any chance you could update the other thread with end of season scores? It would be very helpful as we start to write the wiki article for this APL.

andy
05-01-2011, 11:05 PM
2 games to be played still.

trendy11one
05-05-2011, 11:10 PM
How many rounds we will play this week?

andy
05-05-2011, 11:17 PM
First, second and first of the loser bracket probably.

We are trying to acomodate the USA vs World tbd match so it might change.

First two rounds should also be bo3.

andy
05-06-2011, 02:36 PM
POSTED SCHEDULES.

caps lock

[Y]
05-06-2011, 03:14 PM
I thought we were having a one week break between the season and the playoffs.

If not, we should.

Ribilla
05-06-2011, 03:18 PM
;120463']i thought we were having a one week break between the season and the playoffs.

If not, we should.

QFT ..................i........

evilarsenal
05-06-2011, 03:44 PM
;120463']I thought we were having a one week break between the season and the playoffs.

If not, we should.

there was easter, and already a week with 1 match, so 1 match in 3 weeks? whats wrong with this weekend? everything is set

Kuja900
05-06-2011, 03:51 PM
;120463']I thought we were having a one week break between the season and the playoffs.

If not, we should.

For what reason

Pieface
05-06-2011, 05:57 PM
Many people can't make it this weekend because this week, weekend, and next week are the SATs and AP exams, the most widely taken and prepared for standardized tests in the country. Since there's a huge amount of people from this community in high school this weekend is generally pretty bad.

Also, there's generally been a week off between the regular season and the playoffs in the past. I don't see why we'd change it now.

andy
05-06-2011, 05:59 PM
there was easter, and already a week with 1 match, so 1 match in 3 weeks? whats wrong with this weekend? everything is set

This is basically why.

Kuja900
05-06-2011, 06:11 PM
Many people can't make it this weekend because this week, weekend, and next week are the SATs and AP exams, the most widely taken and prepared for standardized tests in the country. Since there's a huge amount of people from this community in high school this weekend is generally pretty bad.

Also, there's generally been a week off between the regular season and the playoffs in the past. I don't see why we'd change it now.

We have had apl on SAT weekends before, and they are on Saturday not Sunday. There is no reason for a week off.

Clapon
05-06-2011, 06:21 PM
We have had apl on SAT weekends before, and they are on Saturday not Sunday. There is no reason for a week off.

this, ill be able to take my tests and play apl just fine

York
05-06-2011, 06:58 PM
KLF and PR/51, any chance we can push our games an hour back?

evilarsenal
05-06-2011, 07:30 PM
that means pushing every other game an hour back, just play at the time given, its not late or early

leggomyeggo
05-06-2011, 08:12 PM
that means pushing every other game an hour back, just play at the time given, its not late or early

Isn't that basically what York asked to do? Since we're playing the first two matches, those are the only teams affected by the push back. Who else would be annoyed at this?

Or am I just not understanding your point?

Edit:

different topic:
still think we should have a week break. Is the addiction really that bad that you need to play alti so much? I don't see any reason why not to push it back.. Plus, if you haven't noticed, AP exams aren't just on saturdays like SATs, they're throughout the week, giving us only the weekend and any free time during the week before we have to take it to study.

Annnndddd it's mothers day :o

sunshineduck
05-06-2011, 08:26 PM
there are two euro ball tourneys waiting for APL to finish up, and we've only played one APL match in what would be three weeks if we skip this week as well. the amount of high schoolers taking AP exams playing in this APL isn't as large as you seem to be implying when taken in grand context, and is two hours tops out of early-afternoon sunday really going to disrupt your study schedule that much?

who even does something special on mother's day lunch anyway? just from the people i talk to, most of them just do breakfast or an expensive-ass dinner. not sure if i'm off-base there though.

blln4lyf
05-06-2011, 09:20 PM
Skip a week imo

Kuja900
05-07-2011, 01:28 AM
I find it funny that the people asking for a delay resort to trying to use SATs as an excuse instead of just mentioning how Sunday was Mother's day lol. I just learned that myself I am less opposed to pushing it back a week now even though we have played through Mothers day in the past.

[Y]
05-07-2011, 01:46 AM
who even does something special on mother's day lunch anyway? just from the people i talk to, most of them just do breakfast or an expensive-ass dinner. not sure if i'm off-base there though.

SSD doesn't love his mother.

Wok3N^
05-07-2011, 03:20 AM
I will get more of a consensus from the clans tomorrow and will let you all know whether or not it will be pushed back. If it is however, there will be an extra round the following week to ensure that we get more games in.

Kuja900
05-07-2011, 03:53 AM
I will get more of a consensus from the clans tomorrow and will let you all know whether or not it will be pushed back. If it is however, there will be an extra round the following week to ensure that we get more games in.

sounds like a fair compromise

VeRiTaS
05-07-2011, 11:22 AM
Imo we could push it back , as many BB are also for the push ... And in replacement we can have a 1 day tourney again ...

blln4lyf
05-07-2011, 03:20 PM
Your mother's must be bitches.

Kuja900
05-07-2011, 05:02 PM
Your mother's must be bitches.

Each and every one of them

Kuja900
05-07-2011, 07:48 PM
Can we get a confirmation on if or if not the games are tomorrow, teams need to tell their players what is going on.

andy
05-07-2011, 09:06 PM
I dont know which teams can make the games..

Ribilla
05-07-2011, 09:34 PM
IL definitely can't field it's preferred team.

Kuja900
05-07-2011, 09:37 PM
fLb doesn't really care, whatever is most convenient for the majority is fine.

Wok3N^
05-07-2011, 10:16 PM
We are pushing APL back to the following week. The general consensus is this wish and I will meet it demands. However, some teams seem that they could have played but did not have their "preferred 5". You guys all better have 5 next week...

Wok3N^
05-08-2011, 01:27 AM
bumping to ensure the viewing of the change.

evilarsenal
05-08-2011, 02:28 AM
We are pushing APL back to the following week. The general consensus is this wish and I will meet it demands. However, some teams seem that they could have played but did not have their "preferred 5". You guys all better have 5 next week...

thats the point of having a roster max over 15, so people show up, just because people don't have their preferred 5 means that "OH 1 player cant come, we cant play tomorrow" is dumb, if ur gonna push it back atleast give a better reason

andy
05-08-2011, 02:35 AM
mothers day is the reason although people couldve played...

Jrathje
05-08-2011, 02:52 AM
Just checking, would it be cheating if I mailed some of my prescription performance enhancing drugs to take before our matches?

Kuja900
05-08-2011, 03:40 AM
Go for it.

sunshineduck
05-08-2011, 03:50 AM
mothers day is the reason although people couldve played...

it's less of a reason than it is an excuse.

gonna lol when all these teams have 5 online on sunday, just not their top 5.

whatevs, it is what it is

Wok3N^
05-08-2011, 05:00 AM
Some teams don't think they will have their preferred 5 however other teams legitimately feel they can't show.

elxir
05-08-2011, 05:54 AM
in what world does mother's day involve afternoon activities

trendy11one
05-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Imo we could push it back , as many BB are also for the push ... And in replacement we can have a 1 day tourney again ...

So you asking for push, but you will have players for 1day tourney?

We are pushing APL back to the following week. The general consensus is this wish and I will meet it demands. However, some teams seem that they could have played but did not have their "preferred 5". You guys all better have 5 next week...

Pushing this week for one team affect all others. Not only tbd, but ball. Its your own words. BBQ personally have to play WABL match another day not sunday coz of APL. And now you push it, so both WABL and APL not happen. Just because 1 team. So smart.

thats the point of having a roster max over 15, so people show up, just because people don't have their preferred 5 means that "OH 1 player cant come, we cant play tomorrow" is dumb, if ur gonna push it back atleast give a better reason
Cap is 20. Agreed at rest.

VeRiTaS
05-08-2011, 12:01 PM
So you asking for push, but you will have players for 1day tourney?

Yes I MIGHT have players for a 1day tourny ... and I said that more to satisfie the other who will come this sunday ...

Ribilla
05-08-2011, 12:18 PM
Pushing this week for one team affect all others. Not only tbd, but ball. Its your own words. BBQ personally have to play WABL match another day not sunday coz of APL. And now you push it, so both WABL and APL not happen. Just because 1 team. So smart.


I think a few teams are having trouble turning up/getting a decent team together. As this is the playoffs, it's fairer to make sure everyone is at their best, don't you think?

trendy11one
05-08-2011, 12:28 PM
I think a few teams are having trouble turning up/getting a decent team together. As this is the playoffs, it's fairer to make sure everyone is at their best, don't you think?
Only team, who was asking for this was IL. In same time, thats point of roster, otherwise we can register only our best 5 and wait till everyone can show up.
Also, this is double elimination.

Ribilla
05-08-2011, 12:36 PM
Only team, who was asking for this was IL. In same time, thats point of roster, otherwise we can register only our best 5 and wait till everyone can show up.
Also, this is double elimination.

But we are playing two games, so you can still be completely eliminated on saturday.

VeRiTaS
05-08-2011, 01:43 PM
Only team, who was asking for this was IL. In same time, thats point of roster, otherwise we can register only our best 5 and wait till everyone can show up.
Also, this is double elimination.

Its not only IL , also BB wants to push it back , and since Woken said he would ask the others and decide judging from his move to push it back we are not the only ones... So pls stop complaining...

Wok3N^
05-08-2011, 01:50 PM
Only team, who was asking for this was IL. In same time, thats point of roster, otherwise we can register only our best 5 and wait till everyone can show up.
Also, this is double elimination.

Tmic told me to push it back... your own clan leader :X

Ribilla
05-08-2011, 01:56 PM
Tmic told me to push it back... your own clan leader :X

Trendy, I think you just got told.

Tosconi
05-08-2011, 02:26 PM
Well there was no discussion of the match date issue at our clan, so e don't have an official opinion

+1 on all trendy's posts

Kuja900
05-08-2011, 05:34 PM
Even if it is just IL I am still alright with the move. I want no teams to be able to use the classic "well we didn't have soandso players" excuse when they lose.

Pieface
05-08-2011, 06:16 PM
It would also be hella lame to have the second seed with a history of showing in force get disqualified because they only had 3 online... Anyway, thanks everyone for agreeing to push it back a week!

Kuja900
05-08-2011, 07:37 PM
It would also be hella lame to have the second seed with a history of showing in force get disqualified because they only had 3 online... Anyway, thanks everyone for agreeing to push it back a week!

You could have been upfront to begin with instead of trying to use backwater excuses like SATs.

[Y]
05-08-2011, 08:51 PM
You would've pushed it back just because one team couldn't show?

Pieface
05-08-2011, 10:59 PM
You could have been upfront to begin with instead of trying to use backwater excuses like SATs.

Standardized tests and mothers' day are the main reasons we couldn't make it. I don't see how the two are mutually exclusive.

sunshineduck
05-11-2011, 09:40 PM
can we get a schedule for this week plz?

andy
05-11-2011, 11:16 PM
Same schedule just this sunday instead.
We wont be able to fit in 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 its just too much.

Kuja900
05-12-2011, 06:24 AM
Same schedule just this sunday instead.
We wont be able to fit in 2 bo3 and 1 bo5 its just too much.

fLb has no problem with it, its really not that bad.

andy
05-12-2011, 10:14 AM
Ill ask around and decide tomorrow.

andy
05-13-2011, 05:59 PM
BUMP FOR UPDATE.

We will be playing 2 rounds of the loser bracket.

York
05-15-2011, 06:24 PM
IL 2 - 0 KLF

ggs

tmic225
05-15-2011, 07:06 PM
bong's > BB

2-0

ggs

Duck Duck Pwn
05-15-2011, 07:40 PM
since no one has posted these yet:

fro > bong's 2-0

fro < flb 0-2

York
05-15-2011, 08:32 PM
Pr 2 > 0 il


il 2 > 1 |

andy
05-15-2011, 08:41 PM
Pr 2 > 1 il


il 2 > 1 |

PR 2 > 0 IL
fyi

York
05-15-2011, 08:44 PM
PR 2 > 0 IL
fyi

fixed it thanks, mbmb

tomato man
05-15-2011, 09:20 PM
PF 3 - 0 flb

Ribilla
05-15-2011, 09:25 PM
PF 3 - 0 flb

QFT

If we get more people saying this is true, than denying it, does it actually become true?

tomato man
05-15-2011, 09:27 PM
qft

if we get more people saying this is true, than denying it, does it actually become true?

THAT's TRUE.

andy
05-15-2011, 10:08 PM
I have screenshots.

Duck Duck Pwn
05-15-2011, 11:14 PM
fro > 51 2-0

leggomyeggo
05-16-2011, 01:01 AM
QFT

If we get more people saying this is true, than denying it, does it actually become true?

Confirmed. I was there and went a whopping ratio of 4-13 and we crushed them. I recorded it and will post the link when I get it uploaded on youtube

[Y]
05-19-2011, 01:51 AM
So how about that audio file, Woken?

andy
05-21-2011, 12:39 PM
Bump for updated schedules.

sunshineduck
05-21-2011, 05:54 PM
any specific reason the times were bumped back?

andy
05-21-2011, 05:56 PM
any specific reason the times were bumped back?

It was more confortable for us and flb but these are just some proposed times, if any team has a problem im willing to put them back again.

blln4lyf
05-21-2011, 06:28 PM
It was more confortable for us and flb but these are just some proposed times, if any team has a problem im willing to put them back again.

Well ball has a scheduled match for WAPL(been scheduled for weeks now) at 4 PM EST tomorrow...so there is going to be a conflict be it with the ballers on IL, FRO, PR or FLB(got at least 1 on each team).

Tvo plays at 3:30 EST as well, not sure about other teams with a lot of people on these TBD teams.

I can try to reschedule our game but since other teams games might have a conflict too I don't know what is the best action to take.

andy
05-21-2011, 06:38 PM
Well ball has a scheduled match for WAPL(been scheduled for weeks now) at 4 PM EST tomorrow...so there is going to be a conflict be it with the ballers on IL, FRO, PR or FLB(got at least 1 on each team).

Tvo plays at 3:30 EST as well, not sure about other teams with a lot of people on these TBD teams.

I can try to reschedule our game but since other teams games might have a conflict too I don't know what is the best action to take.

You wont be finished by 4pm EST anyway. Two best of 5 starting at 2pm EST will go on to after 4pm anyway.

Dougie
05-21-2011, 07:06 PM
Well ball has a scheduled match for WAPL(been scheduled for weeks now) at 4 PM EST tomorrow...so there is going to be a conflict be it with the ballers on IL, FRO, PR or FLB(got at least 1 on each team).

Tvo plays at 3:30 EST as well, not sure about other teams with a lot of people on these TBD teams.

I can try to reschedule our game but since other teams games might have a conflict too I don't know what is the best action to take.

You wont be finished by 4pm EST anyway. Two best of 5 starting at 2pm EST will go on to after 4pm anyway.

APL should rightfully take priority over WABL. If we have to reschedule matches, then we will. My only concern, is that some of the matches may have to be scheduled during or after the "european cup" tournament.

andy
05-21-2011, 07:13 PM
APL should rightfully take priority over WABL. If we have to reschedule matches, then we will. My only concern, is that some of the matches may have to be scheduled during or after the "european cup" tournament.

Id say you can take priority over the european cup.

andy
05-21-2011, 11:43 PM
Bump for round 4 game being moved to 4pm EST you wont have a break between matches anymore but like this we can get it done faster and we can let other tournaments have their games.

Kuja900
05-22-2011, 09:26 PM
fLb>PR 3-2 ship it

Winters Ark
05-22-2011, 10:45 PM
Great games, guys. PR lost to fLb 3-2 and PR lost to IL 3-2.

Ribilla
05-22-2011, 11:00 PM
Under what circumstances do we play both finals? If fLb lose the first final, we have to play them again?

mikesol
05-22-2011, 11:03 PM
Under what circumstances do we play both finals? If fLb lose the first final, we have to play them again?

Yes charsssss

[Y]
05-29-2011, 03:56 AM
Can you release the a map pool?

Wok3N^
05-29-2011, 04:17 AM
Bump for finals.

Kuja900
05-29-2011, 04:18 AM
slow poke woke

mikesol
05-30-2011, 08:54 PM
grats fLb for the 4-1

Nice job IL for getting so far!

Kuja900
05-30-2011, 08:56 PM
By the way IL we checked the video and donk never spawned once before we subbed him in. He specced on our team but he never spawned.

tyr
05-30-2011, 08:59 PM
GGs to everyone and congratulations to fLb.
It's a shame that this was tainted by this drama at the end, the games were actually really good.
The videos will be on youtube later tonight.

Ingbo
05-30-2011, 09:05 PM
+1 to tyr and long live ace ggs

Ribilla
05-30-2011, 09:19 PM
By the way IL we checked the video and donk never spawned once before we subbed him in. He specced on our team but he never spawned.

MB then, I just remember looking up a minute or so into the game and seeing "[fLb] donk is spectating". Then a general cheer went up on mumble that we would probably win this now.

blln had to leave after that game anyway, so we would have had to forfeit.

GGs though, you are deserved winners.

tyr
05-31-2011, 01:30 AM
Full videos of the games !
Link to the playlist (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL6A46FEA26B8CABA6)

Kuja900
05-31-2011, 01:38 AM
Full videos of the games !
Link to the playlist (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?p=PL6A46FEA26B8CABA6)

I love your little laugh when I get that 10 dmg hit on lost city lol. You of course also criticized me instead of mentioning how sick that randas block was (it was really sick lol).

tyr
05-31-2011, 01:40 AM
What did you expect ahahahah

Kuja900
05-31-2011, 01:42 AM
What did you expect ahahahah

I got exactly what I expected, thank you sir lol.

Ribilla
05-31-2011, 11:13 AM
Awesome videos guys.

Can I just say that the sentiments in the videos about the subbing were exactly the same as IL's. You must be able to see how we thought donk had been resubbed.

Kuja900
05-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Awesome videos guys.

Can I just say that the sentiments in the videos about the subbing were exactly the same as IL's. You must be able to see how we thought donk had been resubbed.

Instead of spamming capital letters in an effort to proclaim us cheaters why not just politely ask an admin whats up to begin with lol. Or even just ask me directly as andy had done right after the event in question happened. Do you really think we'd try to break the rules in the finals of all places, especially with over 3 admins present?

ufo
05-31-2011, 12:54 PM
you are cheaters

Ribilla
05-31-2011, 01:19 PM
Instead of spamming capital letters in an effort to proclaim us cheaters why not just politely ask an admin whats up to begin with lol. Or even just ask me directly as andy had done right after the event in question happened. Do you really think we'd try to break the rules in the finals of all places, especially with over 3 admins present?

I started raging only after we had played the match, the only admin I knew was on your team and you have me blocked so I couldn't have asked you to.

Mandrad
06-01-2011, 11:21 AM
GGs. Close matches sure made time fly.
Great watch!!! (tx Tyr)

First of all, was a bit strange to see that both teams had very few players spectating!? Am i missing something or is this geting trendy??
Some epic (hate the word in alti but..) moments like Kuja's mentioned 10, - insane block indeed.
Found odd the lack of bombers in cave, as i see them as The controller plane in that map, but what do i know? Speaking of bomber, and although somehow stupid mentioning names, well done FU! Speaking of well done, INGBO all the way, > superb!

Well, excuse my noobyness but had time kill and lines to waste.

[Y]
06-01-2011, 11:50 AM
Thanks, Mandrad. Would've been nice to have a second bomber though.

Ingbo
06-01-2011, 07:09 PM
ty mand, appreciated :)

Ribilla
06-01-2011, 08:36 PM
GGs. Close matches sure made time fly.
Great watch!!! (tx Tyr)

First of all, was a bit strange to see that both teams had very few players spectating!? Am i missing something or is this geting trendy??
Some epic (hate the word in alti but..) moments like Kuja's mentioned 10, - insane block indeed.
Found odd the lack of bombers in cave, as i see them as The controller plane in that map, but what do i know? Speaking of bomber, and although somehow stupid mentioning names, well done FU! Speaking of well done, INGBO all the way, > superb!

Well, excuse my noobyness but had time kill and lines to waste.


I love you mand. I think the reason we didn't play more map specific set ups is because we hardly had any people on, so we were pretty limited in our comps. For the first two games we didn't even have FU (though JL played very well IMO)

leggomyeggo
06-02-2011, 12:26 AM
Nominating this for best double kill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9261aaSK5g&feature=player_detailpage#t=395)

Ribilla
06-02-2011, 12:32 AM
I am well proud of my bomb hit on LC, watch from 9:20-10:00

Kuja900
06-02-2011, 12:33 AM
I started raging only after we had played the match, the only admin I knew was on your team and you have me blocked so I couldn't have asked you to.

Andy was right there in specs

[Y]
06-02-2011, 12:35 AM
Let it go, Kuja.

Ribilla
06-02-2011, 12:38 AM
Andy was right there in specs

I was just sure that I sure him spec a fair way into the game. I think what happened was that he spawned by accident midgame and then specced like 10 seconds afterwards, but I only saw the message saying that he specced. I wasn't going to search through the 30 odd names in the specs when I was pretty sure I was right. A lot of the spectators (casters included) were saying the same thing, so I assumed we were right.

I was also kind of under the impression that subs were for DCs only, but I guess this must be wrong. I already said this was my bad, I am not sure what point you're trying to make.

Kuja900
06-02-2011, 12:46 AM
My point is things like this have happened before. I just want there to be more diplomatic solutions attempted in the future before we resort to the name calling.

Ribilla
06-02-2011, 01:14 AM
I don't think I called anyone any names. Also deliberately inflammatory comments such as

"[that sub] was hardly a game changer"

really don't help.

This is over now, fLb got a well deserved victory, it was IL's best season ever, I had a great time playing in my first proper tourney. It's wins for everyone.

York
06-02-2011, 01:16 AM
Nominating this for best double kill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9261aaSK5g&feature=player_detailpage#t=395)

lol u got it

Kuja900
06-02-2011, 01:16 AM
Whatever call it squashed, ggs.