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BootStraps
05-27-2011, 05:36 AM
Dear Nobodyhome,

I would like to debate the reason for my ban. First of all, I was never warned about anything before I was banned. As I recall, other people that were banned in my presence received a warning or had previously received a warning before their ban. I on the other hand did not receive one from you probably because you dislike me. Second, an 8 day ban for my first offense ever on ladder. I was never banned before. That seems irrational and unfair in the ladder system that tries to regularly uphold rules. As I recall, Loli was banned for two days for speccing a whole game. I suck at one game and get 8 days! That is hardly fair. I don't understand why you banned me after one bad game. I am an active player in the Ladder servers that devotes time to playing and trying to win at all times. I will say I am not the best at ball but that is no reason to ban me. My stats will provide you with proper evidence that I don't always get kills. As you refuse to add me for some weird reason I know not of, I posted here. Please message me with reasons for banning me besides your general dislike of my being.

Your beloved friend,
[L*]Bootstraps

Vapor ID:
f7ff2fdd-7ab2-427e-a20c-f6dd8444782f

XX1
05-27-2011, 05:38 AM
Oh Please Boots. Don't even try this....

btw; if your gonna appeal less loling and trolling please: "yours truly, [L*]Bootstraps" hahahahaha

"with deepest regards" hahaha

nobodyhome
05-27-2011, 05:50 AM
Multiple people have talked to me about your behavior in game, claiming that you spam the chat over and over yelling at every single person for missing shots or for losing games. Spamming chat once in itself is not bannable, but do this over the course of the week that I have been observing you (and possibly more, since I had you muted before) is questionable. Doing it to the extent that I get multiple people talking to me about your behavior and how it detracts from their experience and you have a clear candidate for a rule 12 violation.

In addition you have stated multiple times that you were going to throw games, apparently in an attempt to get my attention. In the last instance that you did so, I observed your game and saw you go dumb bombs on hardcourt, proceeding to go 6-16 while doing so.

Lastly for no apparent reason you started yelling at me and saying things along the lines of "YOU PIECE S*** ADMIN NOBODYHOME".

None of the above things taken alone are really bannable (except for spamming, and then maybe saying you will throw games, but that is hard to prove). Together though and we get this.

A warning is usually extended as a courtesy to players who don't know they are violating rules. In your case it was obvious you knew you were being a detriment to ladder, deliberately pushing the envelope on what is acceptable behavior, and simply wanted to get some attention for whatever reason I don't know.

Eight days is well within the range of a first ban to ladder, especially if the person knows he is obviously being a nuisance. Enjoy your vacation.

BootStraps
05-27-2011, 06:18 AM
Dear NobodyHome,

Well for one, I will say that i do mention things in chats when people miss shots or we lose games, but that is reasonable in a competitive game setting. Every player gets upset when they lose or when their teammate misses an easy shot. I can assure you that I do rage, but only in team chat with my team. Then again so does everyone else who is in it with a competitive attitude. However, just because others do it does not mean its reasonable, but I am saying it happens in the competitive setting that ladder is. Another thing is that those people that complain to you about my game play and behavior are those who were on my team after we lost. As they blame me for losing, they find it best to call me "bad" and to continuously go on about how its my fault. Therefore, negative light is shed on my name when I play and especially when you're around as people know you don't like me. They know that if they question my kills and mention "hes throwing the game," you will notice and act.

In addition, I went dumb bombs to carpet bomb as the other team charged low into the goal. It is a valid and reasonable strategy that I thought would work. As for the low kills, my ladder stats show that I am not the best killer I just move the ball and score goals. As my team had too many randas, I figured that bomber was the best other plane to help my team. Unfortunately, I did not fare so well and ended up paying for it with a ban.

To the comment "You Piece of S*** Nobo," I never said S***. I tried checking the chat logs to provide evidence but for some reason it is not up to date and is an hour behind. I believe i said "YOU PIECE OF ADMIN NOBO." Which in no way was an insult more like a scream in nonsense after the game ended.
([22:09] [L*]SunshineBoots: NOBO YOU USELESS PIECE OF ADMIN) Chat log Provided. I did not say s***.

I firmly believe that my argument for those two reasons you provided proves them invalid. If not, then I at least proved one reason for my ban invalid; therefore, that would make my ban uncalled as you said taken alone these reasons are not valid reasons for a ban.

Lastly, I did not consider myself a nuisance to the game. I was just a competitive players that lost too many games and let the frustration get to him. Eight days again is hardly fair. The most I've seen for a first ban is 4. Then again you are the ladder admin and I won't tell you how to do your job because I saw the result of that when somebody complained to you and you threatened them with a ban. I hope you read this and take it into mind. This is not a vacation.


Yours truly,
[L*]BootStraps

nobodyhome
05-27-2011, 06:26 AM
I stand corrected. What you said was actually

"[22:09] [L*]SunshineBoots: NOBO YOU USELESS PIECE OF ADMIN"

In light of this new evidence my decision has been affected by absolutely not at all.

BootStraps
05-27-2011, 06:29 AM
Dear Nobo,

In addition, there is faulty evidence for the "throwing games" reason. The random outburst that you thought I said was wrong too. So all that is left is spamming disappointed remarks when we lose or miss a shot in team chat. Should this alone be reason for an 8 day ban or even a ban in the first place? I provided reasonable evidence and an argument which should strongly support my request to be unbanned from Ladder.

With deepest regards,
[L*]Sunshineboots

JDR
05-27-2011, 07:10 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/2lwa9nn.gif

MajorPayne257
05-27-2011, 07:41 AM
Till tomorrow folks!

Clapon
05-27-2011, 09:32 AM
Dear Nobo,

In addition, there is faulty evidence for the "throwing games" reason. The random outburst that you thought I said was wrong too. So all that is left is spamming disappointed remarks when we lose or miss a shot in team chat. Should this alone be reason for an 8 day ban or even a ban in the first place? I provided reasonable evidence and an argument which should strongly support my request to be unbanned from Ladder.

With deepest regards,
[L*]Sunshineboots

You did say that you should throw the next game, and then continued to say i always throw games. The next game you then went dumbbombs after 1 goal and continued to get 4 kills for an entire hardcourt game lots of this was because you LITERALLY never pressed f in your bomber, a long with making a large amount of "mistakes" single handedly leading to 2 opponent goals.

Also im going to put my opinion on your spam in here. rage is one thing but typing 10 lines in all caps with fullger remarks every other word is way over board. And you do this every time something happens. Its one thing when a couple people get butt hurt because you hurt their feelings from your "rage" but when the WHOLE server has to mute you or decides to take the time to put in a complaint you have gone to far. +the admin thing which imo your lucky its only 8 days for the **** you say to admin, let alone everything eles.

So tbh just drop it and take your time out and then when you come back you wont be such a prick and get yourself banned again as im sure you'll be on a short leash and the bans will only get longer.

Have a good week,
[fLb]Clapon

Goose
05-27-2011, 10:11 AM
Dearest Boots,

As a trusted friend and colleague, I feel that your ban is unjust and i will do everything in my power as a non-ladder admin to make sure this shocking injustice imposed against you is reversed as soon as possible.


With love and affection,

GOOSEASAURUS

PS:Since i am one of your closest acquaintances and mentors, and I have guided you through many of lifes precious journeys, I formally request that you please allow me to eat some of your girlfriends chow mein. I have heard that it is quite delicious. Thank you and god bless!

Premier Stalin
05-27-2011, 10:29 AM
Troll got trolled

Jrathje
05-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Troll got trolled


Improper use of troll. Boots isn't a troll, just an asshole. I would probably call Goose's post trollin', though.

sunshineduck
05-27-2011, 02:59 PM
dear boots

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love,
FC.sunshineduck

andy
05-27-2011, 07:50 PM
I agree with ssd, i feel he addressed the right point and nobo should really consider doing what he said. I also wanna know what boots has to say on the other issue ssd pointed out.

Ajuk999
05-27-2011, 09:20 PM
dear boots

you're on the phone with your girlfriend, she's upset
she's going off about something that you said
'cause she doesn't get your humor like i do

i'm in the room, it's a typical tuesday night
i'm listening to the kind of music she doesn't like
and she'll never know your story like i do

but she wears short skirts, i wear t-shirts
she's cheer captain and i'm on the bleachers
dreaming about the day when you wake up and find
that what you're looking for has been here the whole time

if you could see that i'm the one who understands you
been here all along, so why can't you see?
You, you belong with me, you belong with me

love,
fc.sunshineduck

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Ingbo
05-27-2011, 09:40 PM
lol that u followed up that with the same joke ajuk
as for dear boots,
i still love u <3

regards,
[fLb]ingbo

Danielle
05-28-2011, 06:19 AM
Aren't there some players that play dumb bombs almost constantly, suck at it, and don't get banned for it?
I play every plane bad, and don't get banned for it....

Did anyone tell boots to switch off of dumb bombs? If not I'm pretty sure the consensus was that you can play any plane, unless the majority of your team disapprove of it AND ask you to switch, in which case you should switch.

There's plenty of players that rage at people for every little thing, I might start reporting them if the case is they get banned for it.....of course I'd expect this to be followed up on, since they are ruining my ladder experience.

As for talking **** to nobo....you dug your own grave tbh stoob...
A ladder admin (especially the main admin) doesn't even NEED to give you a reason to ban you from ladder.
I love you, but your mistakes may cost us everything.
How will I survive without you around? ;_;

Boko
05-28-2011, 01:44 PM
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On a side note, I saw someone play reverse bomber in ladder and not get banned? Lmfao.

ryebone
05-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Aren't there some players that play dumb bombs almost constantly, suck at it, and don't get banned for it?
I play every plane bad, and don't get banned for it....

If you look at his ball stats on his ladder page, you'll see that he's played dumb bombs for approximately 10 minutes, out of a total of 14 hours spent in bladder. Combine that with how he performed, and the fact that he had stated he wanted to throw the game, and everything else nobo mentioned, it simply does not make for a convincing argument. Random exaggerated analogy: if you make a tip to the FBI that you're going to assassinate Obama, then show up in Washington DC with a sniper rifle, you're going to get busted, regardless of what you do.


Another way to think of it is, if there was definitive proof that he was throwing, a permaban would have been issued.

Valkyrie
07-07-2011, 11:19 PM
just dont complain about ppls fails, that will make them play even worse if you ask me. I might sound a ground hugging peace lover, but lets say i accidently steal a goal and i get killed and other team gets ball. What do you get by raging to me? It will just make me play even worse. Same thing happens in lots of other ppl exept ppl like lix or ssd :) i mean if i call them noobs, i would get so much stuff back that i would go to bed and cry myself to sleep. Not trying to be offensive!! Lix, ssd, boots i love u, u are such a pros, ssd sorry about my talks before, but main point was that: stop raging to ppl after a little fail (=

MajorPayne257
07-07-2011, 11:25 PM
I think the problem is that stealing a goal and dying is not a little fail (=

Demuyt
07-07-2011, 11:27 PM
exept ppl like lix or ssd :) i mean if i call them noobs, i would get so much stuff back that i would go to bed and cry myself to sleep. Not trying to be offensive!! Lix, ssd, boots i love u, u are such a pros, ssd sorry about my talks before, but main point was that: stop raging to ppl after a little fail (=
lolololololololol

Valkyrie
07-08-2011, 12:15 AM
I think the problem is that stealing a goal and dying is not a little fail (=

haha yeah youre right (= but that was an examble, i never stole a goal and died. At least i hope i didnt :S

elxir
07-08-2011, 12:53 AM
i don't rage after a little fail hence why i don't ever make any comments towards my ball teammates as their fails are cute and funny, not cruel and tragic

hurripilot
07-08-2011, 01:45 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGoi1MSGu64

BINARY SOLO

Valkyrie
07-08-2011, 08:28 AM
i don't rage after a little fail hence why i don't ever make any comments towards my ball teammates as their fails are cute and funny, not cruel and tragic

Yah i know and i wasnt saying that. I was saying that if someone rages to you, he's ****ed...

sunshineduck
07-08-2011, 08:28 AM
i'm super cute and nice

START
10-21-2011, 06:07 AM
wrehe is ****in guava?
who can repeal my ban?

Mt.Vesuvius
10-21-2011, 11:01 AM
After thoroughly reviewing your ban appeal, I've decided to unban you. Have fun in ladder!

START
10-23-2011, 03:29 AM
After thoroughly reviewing your ban appeal, I've decided to unban you. Have fun in ladder!

i'm still banned(

Carlos98
10-23-2011, 07:14 AM
i'm still banned(

and here is a picture of a unicorn
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/38397.jpg

START
10-23-2011, 09:20 AM
and here is a picture of a unicorn
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/38397.jpg

//////what?

Demuyt
10-23-2011, 01:07 PM
///////////you're super cute

Demuyt
10-23-2011, 01:10 PM
wrehe is ****in guava?
who can repeal my ban?

I don't know where the **** ****ing guava is, but here is a ****ing thread you can ****ing post into.

http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3294&page=29

****.