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elxir
07-28-2011, 09:03 AM
Hi, I'm looking for people's thoughts on tbd_volcano and tbd_core. I believe that these two maps are averaging longer game times than is necessarily fair to the spectating group.

I tried to make a poll but I don't know how. So basically, post if you have an opinion, would want to remove one or both from the random rotation (still custom votable individually), or do something or nothing else entirely.

Suggestions on improving the maps themselves are welcome assuming you provide the improvements.

ETA: tbd_origamipark would seem to be the obvious choice to replace one or both of them in the rotation.

TwistedDuck
07-28-2011, 09:31 AM
core is fine, i dont know what to say about volcano but remove woods and mayhem

Kuja900
07-28-2011, 09:57 AM
While its a little ugly, I think Volcano plays very well.

XX1
07-28-2011, 10:42 AM
core is altitude.
volcano works fine, the wall issue needs to be fixed unless already done so.
origamipark needs to be more creative. its asteroids + cave. not much new about it.

blln4lyf
07-28-2011, 11:51 AM
but remove woods and mayhem

This imo. Also not a huge fan of neutral maps at all because of the length of time they last, but really like the game play of some of them so idk. If there was a way to make neutral maps go quicker, I'd say do it.

Kuja900
07-28-2011, 11:53 AM
Mayhem needs to get the **** out

VeRiTaS
07-28-2011, 12:03 PM
keep those get rid of woods and bowser

TwistedDuck
07-28-2011, 12:17 PM
Mayhem needs to get the **** out
+1
keep those get rid of woods and bowser
woods is too open on the top and browser is ok i guess

Jayfourke
07-28-2011, 05:33 PM
I like Volcano, but seeing as how the bottom 2/3rds (and some of the top) are mostly my design, then I'm bound to say that.

Core is OK, but it gets dull fast, especially if too many bombs are wasted.

Woods should be booted, it's not so much fun.

Finally, Bowserscastle should burn in the deepest pits of hell.

Greekjr14
07-28-2011, 05:49 PM
even though Woods has been a part of APL for a long time, it just bores me to death in ladder and is not much fun. Mayhem of course needs to gtfo. Core is getting really old and the games just take too long. Volcano I really enjoy, but I think maybe the volcano in the middle can come up a bit more and put a small pathway through it on the bottom.

leggomyeggo
07-28-2011, 05:54 PM
Get rid of woods and volcano

Keep core and mayhem

Pieface
07-28-2011, 06:01 PM
What leggo said. But origami park is too similar to our current maps to be a good replacement IMO.

sunshineduck
07-28-2011, 06:39 PM
i adore every neutral map currently on ladder

volcano and woods are terrible, but there aren't any maps suitable for replacing them - this hasn't changed since i was running the pool.

mled
07-28-2011, 07:33 PM
While its a little ugly, I think Volcano plays very well.

agreed....

hurripilot
07-28-2011, 08:39 PM
Core and Mayhem definitely go

Selfish Lover
07-28-2011, 08:52 PM
tbd_origamipark

Am I the only one who saw this face staring at me?

evilarsenal
07-28-2011, 09:30 PM
u guys are dumb, tbd takes more skill, and if core and mayhem are taking too much time, thats because they are supposed to be like that... they have 1/2 the amount of bombs in a normal game... these maps are perfect mayhem, and core, yet we bitch and complain and no one makes better maps to replace them... when we should be adding to the overall map pool or replacing actually bad maps

Dark_Sage
07-28-2011, 10:27 PM
I think they're both fine, it's the nature of tbd that games take longer.

But srsly woods needs to gtfo its only fun in pubs when u can rev/hop across the whole map

Duck Duck Pwn
07-30-2011, 01:38 AM
The only map I really have a problem with on ladder is mayhem for being annoyingly long, but the gameplay on it isn't so off-putting (like middleground) that I'd campaign hard to get it out of the ladder rotation (but I wouldn't miss it if it left).

Woods and Volcano are fine. Core is fine.

DMCM
08-03-2011, 11:56 AM
I hate Core but by now it's a ****ing classic map and it's still one of the few tolerable neutrals. If you could remove every other neutral map that is not Core or Grotto I'd be much happier. Be honest: Who likes neutral bomb maps?


Volcano... I'm not a big fan of it, but I think that a couple more turrets on the rocks above the base would solve my issues with it.

classicallad
08-03-2011, 12:01 PM
Mayhem needs to get the **** out

haha, bad memories of APL4?

I would like to see a couple more neutral maps with 2 bombs, i think it adds another dimension of tactical play, for instance, Flighty had the timing down to a tee and would counter with the second bomb.

Kuja900
08-03-2011, 12:20 PM
haha, bad memories of APL4?

I would like to see a couple more neutral maps with 2 bombs, i think it adds another dimension of tactical play, for instance, Flighty had the timing down to a tee and would counter with the second bomb.

Its a bit arrogant to assume something that happened 2 apls ago is my main reason for hating a map. It just yields terribly unfun games consistently.

Ribilla
08-03-2011, 02:54 PM
Need moar focus.

elxir
08-03-2011, 05:18 PM
If someone could add the Focus health/bomb stacked powerups to every neutral map I think the neutral experience would be greatly improved.

classicallad
08-03-2011, 09:57 PM
If someone could add the Focus health/bomb stacked powerups to every neutral map I think the neutral experience would be greatly improved.

Very good suggestion +1