Mafia in Hell, Michigan.

[andy]

This 50%+ rule should be changed for future games because we cant really have a game with 3 NL it just kills the town and the mafia can just play on that easily.

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by andy

This 50%+ rule should be changed for future games because we cant really have a game with 3 NL it just kills the town and the mafia can just play on that easily.

Well if people were active, it would be a lot easier to get a majority of people to vote. Just sayin'.

[andy]

Originally Posted by horrordude0215

Well if people were active, it would be a lot easier to get a majority of people to vote. Just sayin'.

Yeah i know im not blaming you, im just saying that the rule helps out mafia more than it helps the town. It doesnt force the mafia to vote so if the town has doubts a NL happens.

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by andy

Yeah i know im not blaming you, im just saying that the rule helps out mafia more than it helps the town. It doesnt force the mafia to vote so if the town has doubts a NL happens.

I'll comment on that more at endgame.

[horrordude0215]

Day is here (albeit a little bit late, but it's still here nonetheless)

You're all exhausted. You just want to wake up and see some good news.

Finally, there is!

Ribilla, Mafia Godfather was killed Night 5.

It is now Day 6, which will end on Friday, June 22nd at 8:30 AM.

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[Kennedy]

So now it's 1v1v3

We lynch mafia, DDP kills, 1v2 lylo tomorrow.
We lynch DDP, mafia kills, 1v2 lylo tomorrow.

I say we lynch DDP today.

[blln4lyf]

Originally Posted by Kennedy

So now it's 1v1v3

We lynch mafia, DDP kills, 1v2 lylo tomorrow.
We lynch DDP, mafia kills, 1v2 lylo tomorrow.

I say we lynch DDP today.

If we lynch mafia we know to kill DDP tomorrow and we win.
If we lynch DDP we end up having to correctly lynch mafia tomorrow or we lose.
If we mislynch, how would DDP act?

[blln4lyf]

Rib also tried to protect Andy it seems. Could be nothing, could be they both were mafia. Also Andy tried to say me or Kennedy were mafia, and now that I believe Kennedy/DDP and know I'm town, it seems to me as another possible sign as mafia.

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by blln4lyf

If we lynch mafia we know to kill DDP tomorrow and we win.
If we lynch DDP we end up having to correctly lynch mafia tomorrow or we lose.
If we mislynch, how would DDP act?

DDP might be lying about his win condition. We know he's a confessed third party, we don't know what more he's capable of. We do know how 3 way lylo with a mafia alive works, and it's a fairly standard situation that I don't mind us being in.

If we mislynch the game is over, since mafia/DDP will probably cross and however that mechanic works one of them will die and the other will win.

[Ribilla]

Have fun guiz

[blln4lyf]

Originally Posted by Kennedy

DDP might be lying about his win condition. We know he's a confessed third party, we don't know what more he's capable of. We do know how 3 way lylo with a mafia alive works, and it's a fairly standard situation that I don't mind us being in.

If we mislynch the game is over, since mafia/DDP will probably cross and however that mechanic works one of them will die and the other will win.

Okay your more experienced, I'll take your word for it...

I'm on board.

[Duck Duck Pwn]

Tbh lynching for a mafia is the better call for you. If you mislynch, mafia and i don't want to kill village or we almost guarantee lose because the other can kill us. you lynch correctly, you auto-win.

If you honestly believe there would be a neutral other than one that can just kill at night in a game like this, you are sorely mistaken.

[Duck Duck Pwn]

To clarify, if mafia and wolf cross, either there is some sort of priority system where one lives and the other dies, leaving 2 villagers left and whoever is left out of me and the mafia (which is probably me, since I'm the wolf, and priority tends to favor wolves, means auto-win for town). Otherwise, both wolf and I die and town wins. Going for a mafia lynch today, if you lynch correctly, means auto-win for town. If you mislynch, town has a good chance of winning anyway. You get a straight 50/50 tomorrow, barring a false-claim by kennedy (godfather pop on rib pretty much clears balln). You pretty much have a 50/50 between andy and smushface today to win, and even if the 50% fails on the guess today, you have a good shot of winning if mafia and I cross, which is relatively likely.

Other than a fear of me being more than just a wolf, which I guess isn't an unreasonable fear, lynching for a mafia gives you better odds. I can give you a few reasons to believe that I'm not more than what I claim that I've thought of, though. Take them for what you will, but I think they're pretty convincing.

1. No doctor claim means anything too complex would be broken
2. A miller, two inspects, and a godfather made the inspections already super weak, since none of them were completely trustworthy. Having a super powerful neutral would break the game out of the hands of the village.
3. Even beyond the inspections, all of the village PRs are pretty weak. Tracker + hooker rounding it out is not exactly intimidating. Once again, having a super powerful neutral would not be balanced.

[horrordude0215]

I've done some debating, but I feel like I should tell you all that kills happen simultaneously. (I go by Natural Action Resolution)

If on the off chance two killing roles select each other (which for neutrality sake I will neither confirm nor deny the existance of such roles), they will both happen at the same time. Night basically happens so that kills all take place where everyone points a gun at the people they want to shoot, and everyone pulls the trigger at the exact same time.

With that, carry on.

[Duck Duck Pwn]

yall suck if you lynch me

js

[blln4lyf]

Earth to Andy/smush

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by blln4lyf

Earth to Andy/smush

How about "Earth to everyone who's in this game?"

[Kennedy]

Horror's revelation makes me more sure that lynching DDP is the correct decision from town's POV, because it means that the third party is equivalent to mafia in this scenario so we should absolutely go with the sure thing.

[andy]

I think that killing DDP now is the safe move, however we really need to focus on looking for the mafia and after an entire game of bad plays I would try and lynch a mafia now. Also kennedy do your reports actually work now? Since the GF died they would be useful.
Ballin should be clear considering there was a godfather already and it wasnt him. Im leaning towards smush for the lack of pro-town play he is capable of, but i want to hear from kennedy about his role.

Also @ horror is it possible to know more about the roles after death?

[Kennedy]

what do you want to know andy?

i was an investigative role designed to catch ddp and get fake reports until then so that a third party's existence wouldn't be confirmed, which is a common way for mods to disguise information.

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by andy

Also @ horror is it possible to know more about the roles after death?

Ask me a question and I'll decide if I want to answer it.

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by horrordude0215

Ask me a question and I'll decide if I want to answer it.

what are you wearing?

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by horrordude0215

Ask me a question and I'll decide if I want to answer it.

If the sun is a star, why don't we see it at night?

[Duck Duck Pwn]

Kennedy still clearly cannot do math.

But it's whatever, good job dooming yourself town

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by andy

Also kennedy do your reports actually work now? Since the GF died they would be useful.

I no longer have the ability to conduct investigations. I don't get reports.

[andy]

Originally Posted by horrordude0215

Ask me a question and I'll decide if I want to answer it.

What were the godfathers abilities/powers etc?

[Duck Duck Pwn]

Alright, to be helpful

The correct lynch today is either Smushface or Kennedy

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by andy

What were the godfathers abilities/powers etc?

It's standard for Godfathers to show up town during investigation. That's all I'm telling you.

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by Kennedy

what are you wearing?

Jeans, Tennis Shoes, and an Angry Birds t-shirt.

Originally Posted by Kennedy

If the sun is a star, why don't we see it at night?

It's on the other side of the world at night.

[Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Duck Duck Pwn

Kennedy still clearly cannot do math.

But it's whatever, good job dooming yourself town

1. DDP
2. Kennedy
3. Andy
4. Blln4lyf
13. Smushface


2/5 are anti town, both function as mafia in that they kill at night and must be the majority to win. You are functionally identical to scum at this point.

We lynch you, mafia kills one, and it's 1v2 in 3 way lylo. If we lynch mafia today, you'll kill someone tonight, and it'll be 1v2 in 3 way lylo tomorrow but we'll know to lynch you.

Possible candidates for a lynch other than you today are me, andy, smushface, and balln. If we lynch you, mafia will have to kill one of those suspects, which helps our odds of lynching correctly tomorrow.

[Smushface]

Sorry, I'm back. Was out of commission for the weekend. I'll catch-up on the thread periodically through the day, whens the vote deadline?

[horrordude0215]

Originally Posted by Smushface

Sorry, I'm back. Was out of commission for the weekend. I'll catch-up on the thread periodically through the day, whens the vote deadline?

Friday, 8:30 AM PST.

[andy]

Wait I had missed something quite big, DDP is third party and kennedy knew this from his role which makes him basically clear, the godfather wasnt ballin and unless he had some other role that makes ballin clear, that leaves us with smushface mafia. Its up to you if you want to lynch the mafia or the third party first. Lynching DDP would just confirm 100% that kennedy isnt lying.

[blln4lyf]

Originally Posted by andy

Wait I had missed something quite big, DDP is third party and kennedy knew this from his role which makes him basically clear, the godfather wasnt ballin and unless he had some other role that makes ballin clear, that leaves us with smushface mafia. Its up to you if you want to lynch the mafia or the third party first. Lynching DDP would just confirm 100% that kennedy isnt lying.

Wait am I missing something too?
I didn't realize you were cleared, can you explain?

[Kennedy]

I don't think he was counting himself as a suspect.

[andy]

The alternative would be having lynching me and having DDP shoot smushface for a tied win, unless obviously DDP has different win conditions that make it favourable for him to shoot a town and stay alive with 1-1-1 ratio.

[horrordude0215]

Less than 24 hours until deadline, 2 votes in. That's all I have to say at the moment.

[Smushface]

Voting DDP, don't like it but I don't see a better alternative.

[Duck Duck Pwn]

Guess that's it.

Oh and kennedy's the last mafia, since I was uninspectable.

Peace!

[horrordude0215]

"Come on guys! Let's get some more scum!" I encouraged.

"How about DDP? He's pretty much already admitted he's not town, so he's as good as anyone!" it was suggested.

So you did.

Duck Duck Pwn, Slightly Vulnerable Serial Killer, was Lynched Day 6.

It is now Night 6, which will end on Monday June 25th at 8:30 AM at the latest.