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Old 04-25-2017, 05:52 PM
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Due to constant hacking/dos/spam attempts we are going to shutdown these forums. Please use https://steamcommunity.com/app/41300/discussions/.

We have added new firewall rules and removed most of the functionality of the forums in hopes that they will stay around for a while as a read-only resource while you guys make the migration over to the Steam forums.

Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2017, 06:46 PM
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R.I.P. - sad to see this go away but I definitely understand the reasoning. Been a really enjoyable ride here and I'll always treasure the memories / friends made on these forums.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:01 PM
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Thanks for all the hard work you guys. You the best <3
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:17 AM
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i do not think anyone on the history of earth has ever been as sad as i am in this moment
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Old 04-26-2017, 02:34 AM
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Old 04-26-2017, 03:01 AM
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As always, thank you Karl and Lamster for all of the support, happy moments, and competitive experiences.
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Old 04-30-2017, 02:35 AM
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you guys make the migration over to the Steam forums.
Can we not?

There is so much left here, would you be willing to transfer over the forums or give out the data base and web files?
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Old 04-30-2017, 03:03 AM
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I second that...

What LewisH had posted eariler gives us something...

But, as I said eariler, it is only a hollow shell of this forum.
Only the text...

Anybody have a guess on how big a drive would be necessary to store everything, intact..? 10Tb, 20Tb...?

If we could get our hands on the entire database, I would be willing to purchase an array large enough to hold it.

At least then, it could be preserved until such time as it could be transferred...

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Old 04-30-2017, 09:19 AM
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sad times. But I agree with whoever said it; someone should take record of the league results and such as an archive, would be a shame to see all known record of that stuff vanish
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Old 05-01-2017, 01:29 AM
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Anybody have a guess on how big a drive would be necessary to store everything, intact..? 10Tb, 20Tb...?
If you change your TB to GB, you are more on the mark. It wouldn't surprise me if all the forum data, including the database wasn't less than 10GB. If I am wrong, it is still going to be tens of GBs, not 100s of GBs or TBs. Things like that don't take up much space.

To properly archive the forums would require access to most of the underlying metadata. To make them able to continue interatively, just about everything except maybe passwords would be needed. Then, we would need to follow an upgrade process for vBulletin to get it to a modern version (5.3.0) which is more resilient to attack. That upgrade/conversion process may or may not be easy, I don't follow vBulletin enough to know the answer. Without the underlying data, any archive will be difficult to use and navigate.

If karlam were willing to willing to entrust the data with a community member, I would be willing host a modern vBulletin and try to upgrade the existing data into it. I am very confident Vanishing is also willing to do the same. If you know the authors, or know someone who does, please reach out to them and see if this is something they would consider.
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Old 05-01-2017, 01:53 AM
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Yeah I am admin of another game's forum which has been up since at least 2008 and is more active than this one. Database is only 650mb.
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Old 05-01-2017, 02:19 AM
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In my estimate, I was attempting to factor in:

(In an effort to archive everything, from the current forums & all web sources)

-User Accounts
-Text
-Links
-Photos (non-linked)
-Photos (linked, pulled down off web)
-Maps (linked, pulled down off web)
-Map archives (linked, pulled down off web)
-Video Guides (linked, pulled from YouTube)

Leaving room for:
-vBulletin (current version)
-vBulletin (any more secure version)

So I had time to play with it. We have already lost a bunch due to links that are no longer active, imgur images that are no longer available, etc...

Plus, creating an archive would give us a hardcopy backup, in case there were some sort of attack on Steam...

It stands to reason that transferring to Steam is going to take some time.

We are also going to need to ask Karl to create a subsection for Clan Organization on Steam. (Nowhere to transfer that, atm.)

I figured 10TB would be enough to hold all the above mentioned data. 20TB was a stab in the dark.

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Old 05-03-2017, 12:04 AM
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After trying to figure out how to post for about 10 minutes, I realized that you have to spend $5 on steam games to post I know why they do that, it cuts down dramatically on sock puppet and hate accounts. I may have to spend $5 on a game I have no intention of playing, just so I can post to the steam forums. I bought Altitude before it was free, but not through steam.
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Old 05-03-2017, 12:37 AM
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I realized that you have to spend $5 on steam games to post
Well that settles it I guess. We don't really have any choice but to set up a new forum, since that is too big of a problem. I guess I will go ahead and begin installing one on planeball.com unless anyone has a better idea. It has always been my plan to have accounts on planeball.com for fantasy and other reasons, that are linked to Altitude (specifically ladder) accounts anyway. Might as well use those accounts for a forum too.

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Old 05-05-2017, 01:38 AM
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Default Goodbye forums

I've been away for a little while, but a friend told me about the imminent forum shutdown and I wanted to pay my respects.

I enjoyed the countless hours spent in the game and in the community, and I hope the friendships and memories are as warm for others as they have been for me. Cheers to a fantastic experience.

I don't play many computer games these days, but if anybody would like to drop me a line I occasionally hop online on Steam: yellow_tea
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Old 05-06-2017, 06:30 PM
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Pressing F to pay respects to one of my favorite games' forums.
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Old 05-07-2017, 08:13 PM
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:'( ... It's been a long ride since 2009... you all have made this community so great! Just because the forum is dying doesn't mean our community and the game will die! Everyone link up and stay in touch, there's so many forms of communication out there nowadays that we can always use steam, a random website, and/or any form of social media. <3

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