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Old 01-10-2010, 09:41 PM
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Wall Hopping
Thanks. I'll practice it more, and then start applying it in my games.

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Missile Hopping
Cool.

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Drop Sniping
Yes, when I was starting as Loopy I found this useful. But I do not think this is very advanced, because low kinetic energy = quick death
I would only try Drop Sniping at the very very top of maps. Unless you can explain further..?

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Hurrah, I nick I can use for Randa. K, how do I crash? I have never learned this since I am always sniping, and if I crash then it is accidental.

But I see no pictures; want to make some?
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Old 01-10-2010, 09:45 PM
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Pictures will be up as soon as I can find some good miranda pictures. If you have any, PM me.
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Old 01-11-2010, 04:16 AM
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My IGN is MapleSyrup, but I see no Evan20000s in-game.
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Old 01-11-2010, 08:52 AM
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My ingame is [FN]Sinstar20K
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:30 PM
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Updated the Ace Setup. Thinking about expanding into laser play as I've picked up my old laser skills. What do you guys think?
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:48 PM
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I may write up a laser version for the new steamies. I may need some help testing a few setups, if that's okay with a few of you.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:31 PM
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I'd be up to trying some stuff out if you want some help. My one condition is that you add the reverse missile trick to the trickster guide! Although not so useful in TBD, I've found it extremely helpful for 1DM.

Edit: Thanks Sins!

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Old 05-20-2010, 07:56 PM
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Alright, fine I'll add it.
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:45 AM
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if u reverse as u drop a bomb it will drop vertically. I dont know if this has any use because it usually just ****s me up by hitting a rock or seomthing.
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Old 05-21-2010, 04:57 AM
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I accidentally discovered this in the fLb vs IL game as well. I'm debating putting this in, since I can't think of any practical applications of this, but if you get something let me know.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:20 AM
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I accidentally discovered this in the fLb vs IL game as well. I'm debating putting this in, since I can't think of any practical applications of this, but if you get something let me know.
thermo boosted.
If you know you're being shunted around and you want a sure drop, use this.
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Old 06-01-2010, 08:13 AM
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Oh hey sin I didn't know you wrote a guide, spiffy.
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Old 06-01-2010, 03:04 PM
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Yeah. It's been here since before the selfpass nerf in ball. :P
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:08 PM
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Default [G] Final Edits for Completion

Congratulations! Your guide has been appended with a "[G]" tag and is almost ready to be moved to the Completed Guides subforum. If possible, please look over these suggested changes and make appropriate edits as you see fit.
  1. Provide a bit more information about current trickster perk setups, keeping in mind that many now use HA/Ultra or HA/Turbo in competitive play.
  2. Fix the Ball strategy section to reflect the fact that the self-pass is no longer possible.

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Old 09-01-2010, 09:00 PM
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Updates: Rewrote the Ball section. Added the Neo Cookie Cutter. Updated the Ace. Increased Biplane difficulty to 10/10 with HC buff.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:54 AM
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If only people knew how to dance...

Are we airplanes, or are we dancers?
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:58 AM
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My humble expert opinion is that trickster is the best defensive miranda in ball, by the way.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:08 AM
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I'd agree with that. It also is a nice iron fist on offence as well.
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:02 AM
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Great guide, but one thing irked me consistently: you use "then" when you mean "than". Than is used for comparison, Then is used for time and conditionals. Think "more than" and "if ... then".
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:07 AM
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Sin I believe you got owned. Please uninstall. kthxbai
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Old 09-05-2010, 12:07 AM
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Great guide, but one thing irked me consistently: you use "then" when you mean "than". Than is used for comparison, Then is used for time and conditionals. Think "more than" and "if ... then".
Always going to be a grammar natzi somewhere.
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Old 09-05-2010, 05:31 AM
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Great guide, but one thing irked me consistently: you use "then" when you mean "than". Than is used for comparison, Then is used for time and conditionals. Think "more than" and "if ... then".
How right you are. I was thinking more about the guide then actual grammar when writing this, although I'm amazed MS Word's Grammar Check didn't pick it up.
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Old 01-23-2011, 11:50 PM
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as a new player, i found your guide very helpful. i agree that everything should be included (reverse missle trick thing) if not just for the newbs. that move owns whales in 1-59 servers O.o

thanks for the guide
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Old 01-24-2011, 01:49 AM
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as a new player, i found your guide very helpful. i agree that everything should be included (reverse missle trick thing) if not just for the newbs. that move owns whales in 1-59 servers O.o

thanks for the guide
Pretty sure any decent player owns anything in 1-59 servers. Time was when all my k/d were over 5 (i.e. before 60), now they are all between 1.5 & 2.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:14 PM
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Cool guide evan! Testing ace setup right nao
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:27 PM
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This thread is ancient. o_o

I wonder if the metagame has shifted enough that it needs an update......
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Old 01-19-2012, 04:28 PM
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This thread is ancient. o_o

I wonder if the metagame has shifted enough that it needs an update......
No one uses repair any more for one thing.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:26 PM
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Flexi wings are awesome.
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:48 PM
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Flexi wings are awesome.
Flexi sucks on trickster. How much weed did you smoke to get to this conclusion?
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:53 PM
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I personally find that flexi really enhances trickster's strengths (dodging, sniping, being annoying as ####).
  • The usual trickster snipe involves a bunch of actions - turning around the corner, shooting, reversing, turning back and warping to safety. Turning takes alot of time and flexi really cuts down on that, allowing much safer and faster snipe shots.
  • Your plane becomes significantly faster overall because you lose less speed on hard turns. Just try flying around with it, it's really noticeable.
  • You conserve energy because instead of reversing you get the option to just turn around. For example you can spin around and bounce around the corner, greatly restricting opposing bomb carrier.
  • Flexi is great at point-blank range fights. Reduced energy consumption and more precise and faster movements effectively increase your damage in comparison to HA tricks. It's especially noticeable against biplanes, you can just run circles around them.

Obviously HA has the huge benefit of increased health and without it the plane is really fragile (you can get warpshotted, bombers and hcs kill you in two hits, etc). I think it ultimately depends on what you want to do with the plane - I view the trickster as a harrassing plane, so enganging head on is not something I want to do anyways, thus I choose a perk that makes my plane better at harrassment. Also if you want to fight head on might as well just go lazer because it's outright better than trickster in those situations.

Anyways, what I want to say with this is that flexi should be considered as an alternative. This game is basically about positioning your plane and flexi makes that easier. The best plane in the game is the most mobile one, etc etc.. I mean right now more people use repair than flexi, and repair is just trash.
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:30 PM
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No one uses repair any more for one thing.
Of course not.

I'm just waiting for everyone else to realize how good properk is on this plane.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:11 AM
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Of course not.

I'm just waiting for everyone else to realize how good properk is on this plane.
The missing piece sure isn't the perks...
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Old 01-21-2012, 02:01 AM
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Of course not.

I'm just waiting for everyone else to realize how good properk is on this plane.
Properk is bad.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:41 AM
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I personally find that flexi really enhances trickster's strengths (dodging, sniping, being annoying as ####).

The usual trickster snipe involves a bunch of actions - turning around the corner, shooting, reversing, turning back and warping to safety. Turning takes alot of time and flexi really cuts down on that, allowing much safer and faster snipe shots.
Randa is already the most agile plane in the game, if you really need the added effects of flexi wings to turn easier, you have a problem. Turning does not take a lot of time at all, especially if you warp as you turn (which is why ultracap is so much better, ldo). You might be able to turn faster than an HA randa can but imo HA randas are more accurate with their shots because they have more time to align with their target. But honestly, safety isn't a problem with randa. You can be on the enemy side with almost 0 health and get through enemies alive with HA.

Your plane becomes significantly faster overall because you lose less speed on hard turns. Just try flying around with it, it's really noticeable.
Yes, it does become faster, but if randa is already the fastest plane in the game when you're warping, why do you need it any further? This isn't nascar.

You conserve energy because instead of reversing you get the option to just turn around. For example you can spin around and bounce around the corner, greatly restricting opposing bomb carrier.
Turning completely around still takes a lot of time even with flexi wings, it's much quicker to just reverse 180. It's not like it takes all of your energy just to reverse.

Flexi is great at point-blank range fights. Reduced energy consumption and more precise and faster movements effectively increase your damage in comparison to HA tricks. It's especially noticeable against biplanes, you can just run circles around them.
You can do the same. In. HA. Also flexi wings will get completely wrecked by an HA trick simply because of your lessened health. If you try and run circles around him he's just going to reverse and own your ass like grass. Also, why do you even care about biplanes? 1. They're easy as **** to kill and 2. there's like 3 in the entire game. The point is that you can do all of this with HA simply because randa is already so flexible and fast, so why lessen your health so greatly for a few small improvements?


Obviously HA has the huge benefit of increased health and without it the plane is really fragile (you can get warpshotted, bombers and hcs kill you in two hits, etc). I think it ultimately depends on what you want to do with the plane - I view the trickster as a harrassing plane, so enganging head on is not something I want to do anyways, thus I choose a perk that makes my plane better at harrassment. Also if you want to fight head on might as well just go lazer because it's outright better than trickster in those situations.
Did you honestly say that laser is better than trickster? Get out of here. Right now. GO. You can do SO much more with trickster, even head on. Laser is an easy killing plane, but you have to get relatively close and within their line of fire. With trickster you can start shooting from far away and move in for the kills.

Anyways, what I want to say with this is that flexi should be considered as an alternative. This game is basically about positioning your plane and flexi makes that easier. The best plane in the game is the most mobile one, etc etc.. I mean right now more people use repair than flexi, and repair is just trash.
agreed that repair is trash, but flexi is hardly a good alternative.
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Old 01-21-2012, 05:09 PM
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Properk is bad.
Shoo, mouselaser! You have no business here!
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Old 01-21-2012, 06:23 PM
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Nuehehehehe *flees*

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Old 02-16-2012, 07:53 PM
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hehe reading it in 2012!
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Old 02-16-2012, 08:17 PM
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hehe reading it in 2012!
Nice.

I ate an apple yesterday.
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Old 02-17-2012, 12:23 AM
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An apple? No way! I'm super jealous!
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Old 02-17-2012, 01:53 AM
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Despite the age of this guide and the rips it has taken... I found quite a few pearls in the information... Thanks for taking the time to share this info with us... Maybe I learned enough to be able to fly that bucket..!
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