SL 13 Registration

[Stam]

I am looking for whales to play for my team, anyone please, i really need whales!
thanks in advance

[Dougie]

ZroG is in.

The Official Zero Gravity Roster for SLXIII

1. Dougie (captain)
2. Caz
3. Phlexxo
4. Kafka
5. Tjerki
6. wuwu
7. Kaizen
8. Stygma
9. Omni Vanitas
10. Toma
11. TheGenesis
12. Poison
13. Helicity
14. Aki (added 21/02/2016)
15. MoonCheese (added 6/3/2016)

[Goose]

Captains of registered teams: remember to post your official Sky League roster of all the players that are going to be playing for your team this season by Sunday the 14th. Also thanks to Dougie for registering Zrog since now that gives us 8 teams in the tournament which is an upgrade from the last SL when there were only 7!

Since i think it is highly unlikely we get any more teams to sign up before the deadline, I will post the schedule for the tournament here so all the teams and players know what to expect and can prepare accordingly.

Tournament will be as follows:

-Double Round Robin regular season
-All games will be played BO3
-Each team plays 2 matches using the new/fun maps
-AAB server choice where A is the team listed in BOLD
-Each team vetoes one map from the pool with the team labeled in BOLD vetoing first
-Top 6 teams advance to playoffs, and bottom 2 teams are eliminated from tournament

All of this information has been updated in the OP as well. Map pools for each match are listed in the parenthesis. Everything was randomized using procedural generation to uphold the values of fairness and integrity that have defined this league for years.

SCHEDULE:
Teams labeled in BOLD get to choose server location for that match

WEEK 1 (February 21st @ 7pm GMT)
Round 1 Matches:
{ball} vs c: (snow, lostcity2, labyrinth, grotto, maze)
Zrog vs {TBG} (grotto, funnelpark, antre, asteroids, cave)
xproxx vs Volare (cross, skylands, grotto, ufos, core)
<Vlix> vs dt (cliff, skylands, antre, asteroids, ice)

Round 2 Matches:
{TBG} vs c: (cross, hardcourt2, ice, reef, skylands)
xproxx vs {ball} (core, cave, funnelpark, lostcity2, ufos)
dt vs Zrog (ice, grotto, hardcourt2, asteroids, skylands)
<Vlix> vs Volare (snow, planepark, ufos, cliff, illumination)

WEEK 2 (February 28th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 3 Matches:
c: vs xproxx: (antre, ice, labyrinth, core, planepark)
{TBG} vs dt (reef, snow, funnelpark, cliff, labyrinth)
{ball} vs <Vlix> (snow, mayhem2, hardcourt2, cave, illumination)
Zrog vs Volare (skylands, ice, funnelpark, cave, asteroids)

Round 4 Matches:
dt vs c: (planepark, mayhem2, grotto, cross, core)
<Vlix> vs xproxx (lostcity2, grotto, cave, reef, ufos)
Volare vs {TBG} (mayhem2, reef, skylands, cave, antre)
Zrog vs {ball} (skylands, planepark, antre, cross, illumination)

WEEK 3 (March 6th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 5 Matches:
c: vs <Vlix> (mayhem2, asteroids, reef, maze, ufos)
Volare vs dt (hardcourt2, core, cross, illumination, planepark)
xproxx vs Zrog (maze, lostcity2, asteroids, reef, funnelpark)
{TBG} vs {ball} (lostcity2, funnelpark, hardcourt2, cross, cliff)

Round 6 Matches:
Volare vs c: (ice, antre, ufos, labyrinth, cross)
Zrog vs <Vlix> (mayhem2, snow, maze, cave, asteroids)
{ball} vs dt (labyrinth, cliff, hardcourt2, snow, illumination)
{TBG} vs xproxx (planepark, ice, maze, labyrinth, reef)

WEEK 4 aka SUNDAY FUNDAY (March 13th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 7 Matches:
c: vs Zrog (gears, midnight, warehouse, swarm, geometry)
Volare vs {ball} (bricks, empire, carpia, cloud, firepark)
<Vlix> vs {TBG} (gears, cloud, cryptic, bricks, arrow)
dt vx xproxx (cryptic, empire, firepark, geometry, cutesy)

Round 8 Matches:
c: vs {ball} (lostcity2, asteroids, funnelpark, reef, skylands)
{TBG} vs Zrog (funnelpark, labyrinth, hardcourt2, lostcity2, maze)
Volare vs xproxx (ufos, antre, reef, labyrinth, snow)
dt vs <Vlix> (maze, cave, lostcity2, skylands, hardcourt2)

WEEK 5 (March 20th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 9 Matches:
c: vs {TBG} (ice, hardcourt2, asteroids, mayhem2, snow)
{ball} vs xproxx (cliff, maze, illumination, snow, antre)
Zrog vs dt (maze, ufos, reef, cross, illumination)
Volare vs <Vlix> (maze, planepark, ice, asteroids, funnelpark)

Round 10 Matches:
xproxx vs c: (cave, grotto, ufos, labyrinth, skylands)
dt vs {TBG} (lostcity2, ice, antre, cave, snow)
<Vlix> vs {ball} (mayhem2, ice, core, cross, maze)
Volare vs Zrog (asteroids, cross, ufos, ice, cave)

WEEK 6 (March 27th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 11 Matches:
c: vs dt (funnelpark, cave, asteroids, cross, cliff)
xproxx vs <Vlix> (reef, planepark, skylands, cliff, maze)
{TBG} vs Volare (hardcourt2, grottos, cliff, skylands, asteroids)
{ball} vs Zrog (labyrinth, ufos, core, antre, reef)

Round 12 Matches:
<Vlix> vs c: (ufos, illumination, cliff, cave, core)
dt vs Volare (planepark, asteroids, skylands, antre, cliff)
Zrog vs xproxx (labyrinth, snow, lostcity2, core, planepark)
{ball} vs {TBG} (funnelpark, reef, mayhem2, maze, asteroids)

WEEK 7 aka SUNDAY FUNDAY PART 2 (April 3rd @ 7pm GMT)
Round 13 Matches:
c: vs Volare (gears, midnight, cutesy, swarm, arrow)
<Vlix> vs Zrog (geometry, cryptic, cloud, warehouse, firepark)
dt vs {ball} (swarm, empire, carpia, cutesy, bricks)
xproxx vs {TBG} (firepark, bricks, gears, crpytic, midnight)

Round 14 Matches:
Zrog vs c: (lostcity2, snow, reef, cave, ice)
{ball} vs Volare (cliff, asteroids, mayhem2, planepark, funnelpark)
{TBG} vs <Vlix> (asteroids, illumination, snow, funnelpark, cross)
xrpoxx vs dt (antre, ufos, labyrinth, cave, skylands)

WEEK 8 (April 10th @ 7pm GMT)
- Europe vs USA Ball Championships 2016 will take place
(Refer to this thread for more details: http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10019)
- Last day to play any matches for teams that may have needed to reschedule during the regular season

WEEK 9 (April 17th @ 7pm GMT)
- Quarterfinals and Semifinals

WEEK 10 (April 24th @ 7pm GMT)
-Lower Bracket Round 1 and Winner's Finals

WEEK 11 aka CHAMPIONSHIP SUNDAY (May 1st @ 7pm GMT)
-Lower Bracket Finals and Grand Finals

Use this information wisely. GL HF

[JWhatever]

>Wants to have an easy to run SL, zero polemic
>Changes everything

-J

[SeDuCTiVe.DuCKy1]

Ducky has decided not to play in SL this time.

[VAN1SH1NG]

Rosters in database have been updated from this thread except ZroG and I could not find the terminator or Colossal Chipmunk. Maybe they have never joined a ladder server or were using a different nickname

[Fartface]

Added wolf and princess squirtle to max out dt roster at 15

[JWhatever]

In all seriousness though, why don't we have a double round robin? How are you going to deal with server picking?

In double round robin we had everything fair and square, every team got to be the home team in half of their games. Imho having the server choice does play a big role in certain matchups.

Goose, you mentioned online that we can veto maps. Are we going back to the veto system or are we sticking with loser picks the map?

-J

[Goose]

Originally Posted by JWhatever

In all seriousness though, why don't we have a double round robin? How are you going to deal with server picking?

In double round robin we had everything fair and square, every team got to be the home team in half of their games. Imho having the server choice does play a big role in certain matchups.

Goose, you mentioned online that we can veto maps. Are we going back to the veto system or are we sticking with loser picks the map?

-J

Great questions.

The reason for the change in format is due to 2 reasons:
1) Because of the 8 teams registered this season, using a double round robin format would increase the duration of this tournament into a 3+ month long league including playoffs. With how small the community is and the fact that there have always been teams and players not being able to show up to games every past SL for whatever reason, I think it makes more sense to have a shorter duration tournament to hopefully keep player activity and interest levels high.
2) The single round robin format puts more emphasis on having a regular season where every game counts.

In regards to what team picks the server, i have updated the schedule and all the teams labeled in BOLD are the designated "home teams" that get to pick the server location for that matchup. Each team gets server choice in 3 out of 7 of their regular season games so it's still pretty fair IMO. (Due to the way the schedule is set up Volare and Zrog are the 2 randomly generated teams that get server choice in 4 games instead of 3)

For the vetoing process, each team vetoes a map from the pool for that matchup. Team that didn't get server choice chooses what map to play first out of the 3 remaining maps after vetoes, and the losing team decides on the map for the second game.

Hope this clears up any confusion, and GL to <Vlix> next Sunday!

[JWhatever]

Originally Posted by Goose

1)...with how small the community is and the fact that there have always been teams and players not being able to show up to games every past SL for whatever reason, I think it makes more sense to have a shorter duration tournament to hopefully keep player activity and interest levels high.
2) The single round robin format puts more emphasis on having a regular season where every game counts.

1) Name a team that hasn't been consistently able to show up to SL games, or even worse, die in the middle of the season. Last time this happened was during APL, 8 months ago.

2) 2 teams drop out at the end of regular season. In a double round robin, sure, you might end up having a situation where a team has lost mathematical chance weeks before the round robins end. However, having a double round robin ensures that you have the top 6 teams going to playoffs, some random fluke games have less of a weight.

Are the server picks same as previously? AAB where A is the home team?

-J

[Mr Nice]

I thought it was the leagues that made this game active not killing it. We have 8 teams and with double Robin we can have a proper long run SL which we've all been waiting for!!! Right?

[Kafka]

I agree with Goose that a 3-month long tournament would be ridiculous

[Fluffy]

Get a poll going lads

3 months every Sunday night altitude games does seem long, yet i myself would normally be playing ladder anyway most Sundays

[Cracker]

Originally Posted by Mr Nice

I thought it was the leagues that made this game active not killing it. We have 8 teams and with double Robin we can have a proper long run SL which we've all been waiting for!!! Right?

This. This game is still fun because of its leagues, not sure why'd you wanna shorten them. Especially if you're only allowing 6 teams into playoffs, these other 2 teams would only play a couple games and be done in a single rr.

[Goose]

After some internal polling among key members of the community, it has come to my conclusion that the majority of the playerbase would prefer a double round robin tournament format.
While having a 3 month long tournament does seem a bit insane, this could potentially be the last ever Sky League in the history of Altitude..so we might as well go out with a bang if that is the case right?
Here is the new and improved Sky League 13!

Tournament will be as follows:

-Double Round Robin regular season
-All games will be played BO3
-Each team plays 2 matches using the new/fun maps
-AAB server choice where A is the team listed in BOLD
-Each team vetoes one map from the pool with the team labeled in BOLD vetoing first
-Top 6 teams advance to playoffs, and bottom 2 teams are eliminated from tournament

All of this information has been updated in the OP as well. Map pools for each match are listed in the parenthesis. Everything was randomized using procedural generation to uphold the values of fairness and integrity that have defined this league for years.

SCHEDULE:
Teams labeled in BOLD get to choose server location for that match

WEEK 1 (February 21st @ 7pm GMT)
Round 1 Matches:
{ball} vs c: (snow, lostcity2, labyrinth, grotto, maze)
ZroG vs {TBG} (grotto, funnelpark, antre, asteroids, cave)
xproxx vs Volare (cross, skylands, grotto, ufos, core)
<Vlix> vs dt (cliff, skylands, antre, asteroids, ice)

Round 2 Matches:
{TBG} vs c: (cross, hardcourt2, ice, reef, skylands)
xproxx vs {ball} (core, cave, funnelpark, lostcity2, ufos)
dt vs ZroG (ice, grotto, hardcourt2, asteroids, skylands)
<Vlix> vs Volare (snow, planepark, ufos, cliff, illumination)

WEEK 2 (February 28th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 3 Matches:
c: vs xproxx: (antre, ice, labyrinth, core, planepark)
{TBG} vs dt (reef, snow, funnelpark, cliff, labyrinth)
{ball} vs <Vlix> (snow, mayhem2, hardcourt2, cave, illumination)
ZroG vs Volare (skylands, ice, funnelpark, cave, asteroids)

Round 4 Matches:
dt vs c: (planepark, mayhem2, grotto, cross, core)
<Vlix> vs xproxx (lostcity2, grotto, cave, reef, ufos)
Volare vs {TBG} (mayhem2, reef, skylands, cave, antre)
ZroG vs {ball} (skylands, planepark, antre, cross, illumination)

WEEK 3 (March 6th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 5 Matches:
c: vs <Vlix> (mayhem2, asteroids, reef, maze, ufos)
Volare vs dt (hardcourt2, core, cross, illumination, planepark)
xproxx vs ZroG (maze, lostcity2, asteroids, reef, funnelpark)
{TBG} vs {ball} (lostcity2, funnelpark, hardcourt2, cross, cliff)

Round 6 Matches:
Volare vs c: (ice, antre, ufos, labyrinth, cross)
ZroG vs <Vlix> (mayhem2, snow, maze, cave, asteroids)
{ball} vs dt (labyrinth, cliff, hardcourt2, snow, illumination)
{TBG} vs xproxx (planepark, ice, maze, labyrinth, reef)

WEEK 4 aka SUNDAY FUNDAY (March 13th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 7 Matches:
c: vs ZroG (gears, midnight, warehouse, swarm, geometry)
Volare vs {ball} (bricks, empire, carpia, cloud, firepark)
<Vlix> vs {TBG} (gears, cloud, cryptic, bricks, arrow)
dt vx xproxx (cryptic, empire, firepark, geometry, cutesy)

Round 8 Matches:
c: vs {ball} (lostcity2, asteroids, funnelpark, reef, skylands)
{TBG} vs ZroG (funnelpark, labyrinth, hardcourt2, lostcity2, maze)
Volare vs xproxx (ufos, antre, reef, labyrinth, snow)
dt vs <Vlix> (maze, cave, lostcity2, skylands, hardcourt2)

WEEK 5 (March 20th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 9 Matches:
c: vs {TBG} (ice, hardcourt2, asteroids, mayhem2, snow)
{ball} vs xproxx (cliff, maze, illumination, snow, antre)
ZroG vs dt (maze, ufos, reef, cross, illumination)
Volare vs <Vlix> (maze, planepark, ice, asteroids, funnelpark)

Round 10 Matches:
xproxx vs c: (cave, grotto, ufos, labyrinth, skylands)
dt vs {TBG} (lostcity2, ice, antre, cave, snow)
<Vlix> vs {ball} (mayhem2, ice, core, cross, maze)
Volare vs ZroG (asteroids, cross, ufos, ice, cave)

WEEK 6 (March 27th @ 7pm GMT)
Round 11 Matches:
c: vs dt (funnelpark, cave, asteroids, cross, cliff)
xproxx vs <Vlix> (reef, planepark, skylands, cliff, maze)
{TBG} vs Volare (hardcourt2, grottos, cliff, skylands, asteroids)
{ball} vs ZroG (labyrinth, ufos, core, antre, reef)

Round 12 Matches:
<Vlix> vs c: (ufos, illumination, cliff, cave, core)
dt vs Volare (planepark, asteroids, skylands, antre, cliff)
ZroG vs xproxx (labyrinth, snow, lostcity2, core, planepark)
{ball} vs {TBG} (funnelpark, reef, mayhem2, maze, asteroids)

WEEK 7 aka SUNDAY FUNDAY PART 2 (April 3rd @ 7pm GMT)
Round 13 Matches:
c: vs Volare (gears, midnight, cutesy, swarm, arrow)
<Vlix> vs ZroG (geometry, cryptic, cloud, warehouse, firepark)
dt vs {ball} (swarm, empire, carpia, cutesy, bricks)
xproxx vs {TBG} (firepark, bricks, gears, crpytic, midnight)

Round 14 Matches:
ZroG vs c: (lostcity2, snow, reef, cave, ice)
{ball} vs Volare (cliff, asteroids, mayhem2, planepark, funnelpark)
{TBG} vs <Vlix> (asteroids, illumination, snow, funnelpark, cross)
xrpoxx vs dt (antre, ufos, labyrinth, cave, skylands)

WEEK 8 (April 10th @ 7pm GMT)
- Europe vs USA Ball Championships 2016 will take place
(Refer to this thread for more details: http://altitudegame.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10019)
- Last day to play any matches for teams that may have needed to reschedule during the regular season

WEEK 9 (April 17th @ 7pm GMT)
- Quarterfinals and Semifinals

WEEK 10 (April 24th @ 7pm GMT)
-Lower Bracket Round 1 and Winner's Finals

WEEK 11 aka CHAMPIONSHIP SUNDAY (May 1st @ 7pm GMT)
-Lower Bracket Finals and Grand Finals

GL HF

-G

[VAN1SH1NG]

I have been wanting to create a fantasy league for SL and/or ladder for a long time. SL is easier since it is a bit easier to predict who will play and how often.

Ideally I'd develop a custom league feature on planeball.com. However, I certainly do not have time for that right now with the league about to begin. I am currently in communication with http://www.fantasizr.com/ which looks like it will be the best option to have a fantasy league for this season.

You will select one team per week with each player having a price. You have to stay under the salary cap each week. Player starting salaries will be based on current ladder ratings and/or stats. They might be adjusted during the season based on how well they are doing in SL.

The only downside is I don't think there will be any way to pick subs/backups on that site to fill in for no shows. I won't look the teams until 7PM GMT or maybe 7:05PM GMT since games never start on time. So if you are around you can get an idea who is online and will be playing if you want to make any last minute changes.

I will inquire to see if cp can be awarded to the top finishers, probably the top 3.

Stats will most likely be goals, goals assisted, kills, kills assisted, and deaths. To keep things fair I will likely only count stats from games 1 and 2 in each match. I will have to put some thought into point values for stats but it will probably be something like:

Goal: 12
Goal Assisted: 8
Kill: 2
Kill Assist: 1
Death: -2

I should know within the next couple days if this is happening for sure. I will make a post later with official info. This is mostly to give you a heads up if you'd like to participate and to make any suggestions.

[JWhatever]

Do you pick a
Randa + Loopy + Loopy/Bip + Bip/Bomber + Whale + Whale team or just 6 players?

Do you take the overall or plane specific stats from ladder?

If you take rating in account, you can end up in some skewed values for some players. Some league players don't play ladder at all.

Fantasy alti should totally be in AlphaDraft so we could play for some sick scrilla.

-J

[VAN1SH1NG]

If I was doing a custom version I was leaning towards having different planes selected. However, I don't believe Fantasizr supports different positions.

Player prices will mostly be based on ladder rating, but I will probably make custom values for those who don't play ladder and adjust as needed after the season starts.

[Dougie]

Would you be able to make transfers in between game weeks? Maybe just the 1 player?

[darknietzsche]

Goose, you make me sad (I was actually excited for single round robin).

Anyways, just so you know DST starts 3/13 for US and 3/27 for europe (most of it at least). Be aware about your timing for those weeks and beyond, because otherwise we will be starting later in the US on those dates.

Also, to clarify after both teams veto's 1 map each who actually picks the map? (bold or not bold team)

[VAN1SH1NG]

My plan as of now is to have 4 stat categories...

Goals
Assists
Killing
Bonus

Killing score will combine kills, kills assisted, ball carrier kills, and deaths.

Bonus will primarily be some kind of handicap for picking players on teams expected to lose to encourage a wider range of players to be selected. There will most likely be an upset bonus where a player on a team ranked much lower in standings defeats a higher rated team. They will likely get a partial bonus still for winning one game but losing the bo3. There may similarly be a penalty given for players on the team that was upset. For the bonus to apply the player picked will actually have had to play.

An additional possibility for the bonus category include a handicap for picking a player on a team expected to lose. This would be a small incentive to pick them and not nearly as much point gain as an upset.

Since team handicaps are standings based I probably won't have them count until week 3.

I think I will provide a bonus score for players you pick who do not show up or does not get into the lineup. This will be a number significantly lower than what that player is expected to earn, but it will help prevent it from being a total loss if a player does not play.

If you have any other ideas for bonus points let me know.

Originally Posted by Dougie

Would you be able to make transfers in between game weeks? Maybe just the 1 player?

You are asking about fantasy right? I plan to set up the league as one where you build a team for each week. Everyone picks from the same player pool with the limitation being each player has a price determined from stats and/or ladder ranking.

I think it is too late at this point to use a pre-season draft type format.

[JWhatever]

Adding Ark to roster.

-J

[don quijote]

Originally Posted by VAN1SH1NG

I have been wanting to create a fantasy league for SL and/or ladder for a long time. SL is easier since it is a bit easier to predict who will play and how often.

Ideally I'd develop a custom league feature on planeball.com. However, I certainly do not have time for that right now with the league about to begin. I am currently in communication with http://www.fantasizr.com/ which looks like it will be the best option to have a fantasy league for this season.

You will select one team per week with each player having a price. You have to stay under the salary cap each week. Player starting salaries will be based on current ladder ratings and/or stats. They might be adjusted during the season based on how well they are doing in SL.

The only downside is I don't think there will be any way to pick subs/backups on that site to fill in for no shows. I won't look the teams until 7PM GMT or maybe 7:05PM GMT since games never start on time. So if you are around you can get an idea who is online and will be playing if you want to make any last minute changes.

I will inquire to see if cp can be awarded to the top finishers, probably the top 3.

Stats will most likely be goals, goals assisted, kills, kills assisted, and deaths. To keep things fair I will likely only count stats from games 1 and 2 in each match. I will have to put some thought into point values for stats but it will probably be something like:

Goal: 12
Goal Assisted: 8
Kill: 2
Kill Assist: 1
Death: -2

I should know within the next couple days if this is happening for sure. I will make a post later with official info. This is mostly to give you a heads up if you'd like to participate and to make any suggestions.

great idea

[Dougie]

last minute addition for ZroG roster, - aki!

[Kennedy]

Volare SL 13
Our possible roster:
1. Kennedy - C
2. Demurrage - C
3. ElusiveOne
4. LewisH
5. lollo
6. P1
7. Max
8. Don't Follow
9. Label
10. Kate Wolf
11. H@ns
12. Professional
13. SomeManiac
14. Tenacious Techhunter
15. Visperi

Dropping Blaster for H@ns on our roster, neither has played a match in SL.

[Dougie]

very late addition to roster, mooncheese

[Kennedy]

dropping kate wolf, adding eggmac to roster. neither has played a game in SL