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Old 08-18-2009, 11:06 PM
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Default Demo VS Paid tournament!

After much fierce debating, jumping off topic, assorted insults, and random gibberish, the decision has been made that the only way to fully prove whether paid players suck or demo players suck, is to have a contest between the two. Thus, I present to you, the Demo VS Paid user tournament!


DEMO USERS - VERSUS - FULL USERS
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Consisting in 3 rounds
of 9 vs 9 [?]
Team Base Defense battles
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Full users, if you're SICK of those Demo users infesting servers like cockroaches, and want your chance to stomp them out like the pests they are; Demo users, if you've HAD IT with Full users acting all high and mighty just because they spent $20 on the game, and want to bring them down from their pedestal; Or ANYONE, if you want a chance to compete against some of Altitudes greatest players, think that maybe you're one of them, or are just bored:

Simply post your Altitude username
whether you are a Demo or Full user,
and anything else you think would be helpful.
in this thread.

People will be picked out and kicked out by fellow contestants.

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Old 08-18-2009, 11:10 PM
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I posted this in the other thread but I will post it again here.

First, 9v9 is a horrible way to play and if you had any sense of this game you would know this. So I will update your challenge and offer a 5v5 challenge. This is the same format as the recently finished tournament.

Having any matches in Deathmatch is also horrible because there are no official maps for that mode yet and it is still in testing. I propose that we do all TBD matches as this has been around for a long time and is the general format for tournaments.

My team will be (assuming they agree):

Maimer
Esoteric
Gameguard
ZidaneTribal
Ballin Shades
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:16 PM
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Good luck convincing Nerd.3 to play a rational sized match. He is dead set on a 9 v 9 or something equally ridiculous. Might as well play 3.14159 vs 2.7182818
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:17 PM
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I posted this in the other thread but I will post it again here.

First, 9v9 is a horrible way to play and if you had any sense of this game you would know this. So I will update your challenge and offer a 5v5 challenge. This is the same format as the recently finished tournament.

Having any matches in Deathmatch is also horrible because there are no official maps for that mode yet and it is still in testing. I propose that we do all TBD matches as this has been around for a long time and is the general format for tournaments.

My team will be (assuming they agree):

Maimer
Esoteric
Gameguard
ZidaneTribal
Ballin Shades
When were playing 9v9 then add me to the roster -.-

I also think arab monxy and gumbyy wanna show him sumthing

Edit: <3 payed players cuz they CAN rape i mean an 11 streak on ffa cave with recoilles? Luved it
Another edit: just add me to our roster i would love to see his altitude face after i recoilessed his head 11 times in a row

Edit 3 -.- : maybe we shouldnt do this. We will lose another altitude player

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Old 08-18-2009, 11:22 PM
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Good luck convincing Nerd.3 to play a rational sized match. He is dead set on a 9 v 9 or something equally ridiculous. Might as well play 3.14159 vs 2.7182818
lol pi versus e. I like it! Good for us math oriented people.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:49 PM
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what I don't understand is why the paid people WOULDN'T do this. Yeah, it's a stupid format but do the paid guys actually think they'll lose? Hell, I'd be surprised if you could even round up 9 decent demo players.

Just remember to put a time limit on your TBD matches :P
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:08 AM
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what I don't understand is why the paid people WOULDN'T do this. Yeah, it's a stupid format but do the paid guys actually think they'll lose? Hell, I'd be surprised if you could even round up 9 decent demo players.

Just remember to put a time limit on your TBD matches :P
No time limit needed 3 maps done in 3 mins
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:09 AM
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lol pi versus e. I like it! Good for us math oriented people.
So we will be on the e team?? ^^
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:46 AM
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So this is the Pros vs. Joes Tournamnet?


If you've been groaning the math humor so far...

http://maththinker.files.wordpress.c...if?w=200&h=200
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:46 AM
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huh.. that will be a disaster... 5 loopys or 9 loopies going at u once is never a good idea.. they shoot xXxXxx rockets in 2 secs lol
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:02 AM
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Moar OHKOs plz
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:07 AM
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I'm hoping for more than 5 people on each team - yes, that would be a decent team size, but it would be nice to see more than just the 3 or 4 Altitude prodigies , dishing it out. At least a general idea of what the "good" Demo/Full player can do.

Hmm. Pros vs Joes - I like the sound of that.

3 TBD maps then.
I'm going for

Woods
Lost City
and Asteroids

Let me know if they agree.
And we may need you extra people, in case someones a no show.

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Old 08-19-2009, 01:37 AM
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You know this proves absolutely nothing. There's actually no reason to do this as the only one that actually believes that demo players are any good is nerl. When the Demo players lose (and that they will) Nerl says he's gonna quit the game but that means nothing. What a joke.
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:46 AM
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You know this proves absolutely nothing. There's actually no reason to do this as the only one that actually believes that demo players are any good is nerl. When the Demo players lose (and that they will) Nerl says he's gonna quit the game but that means nothing. What a joke.
I never said that I WOULD quit the game.
I said that if I lost, I would quit the game, and if they lost, they would buy me a free copy of Altitude. But nobody accepted my wager
Go figure.

There were only a couple people who believe in global warming, antislavery, and womens rights, and look where they ended up. Gosh this sounds corny. Why can't a dumbed down simplified version happen here? And I think if Demo players beat Paid players, it would prove something.

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Old 08-19-2009, 01:54 AM
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On the one hand, I would say close these threads down to stop the trolling.

On the other hand nerd just keeps getting more hilarious.
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:24 AM
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This sounds like the plot for some kind of horrible teen drama. Anyway 9v9 on lost city is always the best way to determine who the better team is.
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:36 AM
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Anyway 9v9 on lost city is always the best way to determine who the better team is.
I mostly agree with you but there really aren't enough choke points on that map. So we either need a map with more choke points (someone can make one) OR more planes. 30 v 30!
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:39 AM
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I never said that I WOULD quit the game.
I said that if I lost, I would quit the game, and if they lost, they would buy me a free copy of Altitude. But nobody accepted my wager
Go figure.
Your wager kind of sucks. You could say you quit, then just make a new account and no one would really know (or care...)... whereas, in the extremely unlikely case that you did win, someone would be out 20 bucks.

It would be incredibly hilarious to me though if you got someone to agree to this, then got a bunch of good players to smurf as demo players though
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:40 AM
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I mostly agree with you but there really aren't enough choke points on that map. So we either need a map with more choke points (someone can make one) OR more planes. 30 v 30!
You could always play Hills. Only 2 choke points, not that lame "3" choke point bull**** on Lost City.
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:42 AM
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You could always play Hills. Only 2 choke points, not that lame "3" choke point bull**** on Lost City.
I remember the 32 vs 32 matches on the PARTY PRINCESS (or whatever) server. Nothing like a 64 max player server to really determine skill.
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:56 AM
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Your wager kind of sucks. You could say you quit, then just make a new account and no one would really know (or care...)... whereas, in the extremely unlikely case that you did win, someone would be out 20 bucks.

It would be incredibly hilarious to me though if you got someone to agree to this, then got a bunch of good players to smurf as demo players though
Then i'd swear by my dead... some relatives body... that I will not ever play Altitude again and if I lie let me spontaniously combust / be struck by lighting / implode, etc.
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:52 AM
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Then i'd swear by my dead... some relatives body... that I will not ever play Altitude again and if I lie let me spontaniously combust / be struck by lighting / implode, etc.
I take you up on your offer, I will go with the paid players.

If I win, buy me a copy - otherwise I buy you one.

I'm fairly sure you'll just create a new account if you lose, but at least I won't have to hear from your account.

Quote w/accept if you take me up on your offer.

P.S. I don't think demo players are better or worse, just that its up to individual players and more of them are paid now (and have better planes).
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:56 AM
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honestly if we all use demo loopy it would still be a ridiculous rape.
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Old 08-19-2009, 09:02 AM
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I played one of Nerd.3's teammates today "SSD.t-rave" or something. Doesn't look like we have much to worry about.

He challenged me to see who could get the most kills in a 7 v 7 server to determine who was the best. These demos have a lot to learn
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Old 08-19-2009, 01:22 PM
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I played one of Nerd.3's teammates today "SSD.t-rave" or something. Doesn't look like we have much to worry about.

He challenged me to see who could get the most kills in a 7 v 7 server to determine who was the best. These demos have a lot to learn
I also challenged him yesterday t-rave had 11-34 i had 34-19 they prob suck?
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Old 08-19-2009, 02:36 PM
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Who's t-rave?

Also, we need like some demo players. It'd be nice if Shyney helped. And... um... lemmie think.

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I'm fairly sure you'll just create a new account if you lose, but at least I won't have to hear from your account.
Exunctly!

Now to get a bunch of good players to smurf as demo players.

I'm off to scout Altitude for demo players now.

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Old 08-19-2009, 03:16 PM
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Also, we need like some demo players. It'd be nice if Shyney helped. And... um... lemmie think.
Q.E.D.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:03 PM
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Who's t-rave?

Also, we need like some demo players. It'd be nice if Shyney helped. And... um... lemmie think.


Exunctly!

Now to get a bunch of good players to smurf as demo players.

I'm off to scout Altitude for demo players now.
So you're telling me this whole time that you were touting that demo players are better than paid players that you don't even know a single good demo player? I mean you named Shyney, but anyone else? It doesn't look good after you said the demo players would win that you now want paid players to "smurf" for you. I think you kind of just destroyed your own argument. Can you just quit the game now and we can pretend we played the games?
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:21 PM
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Who's t-rave?

Also, we need like some demo players. It'd be nice if Shyney helped. And...
It'd be nice if Shyney helped.... Shyney's no fool...
I considered this matter dead, how you've managed to sucker enough people into this nonsense to keep it going, i have no idea.. Its a joke.
Im not about to line myself up in front of a firing squad to back up some rambling idiot because i happen to fall on the "demo" side..
You are wrong.. They are right.. thats all there is to it.
There "might" be 2-3 "good" demo players, but hell i dont even know who the other 2 are.. The talent pool of demo players fall off sharply after that, because as everyone has pointed out to you time and time again. If they really cared and wanted to get better they bought the game, and are now paid players.. I dont understand how you dont get that...

I dont believe there are enough demo players to string together to handle even Maimers list.. and thats nothing. They will toy with you, they will destroy you, and then they will point and laugh. Demo planes are no match for everything else out there.. And the good players have already converted to paid... Weak planes and weak players vs Strong planes and strong players.. yeah sign me up for that please... moron.
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:22 PM
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I'll play!

I started this mess, so it'll be fun to end it. (aka squash demos)

Just remember to add those turrets on Lost City so we can all have ratios of like 90. (as opposed to like 40).
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:22 PM
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So Shyney you buying soon? ;p
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Old 08-19-2009, 04:32 PM
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So Shyney you buying soon? ;p
nope.

10 10 10 10
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Old 08-19-2009, 05:30 PM
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Flight 666/ Demo
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:52 PM
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I'll play!

I started this mess, so it'll be fun to end it. (aka squash demos)

Just remember to add those turrets on Lost City so we can all have ratios of like 90. (as opposed to like 40).
Arab on that capt game from last i raped your team but now ill help you
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:08 PM
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There "might" be 2-3 "good" demo players, but hell i dont even know who the other 2 are.. The talent pool of demo players fall off sharply after that, because as everyone has pointed out to you time and time again. If they really cared and wanted to get better they bought the game, and are now paid players.. I dont understand how you dont get that...
Not all people who really cared about the game are good.
Not all people who are good can or want to buy the game.
I don't see the logic of your argument. You're making the generalization that if you're good the game, you must buy it if you can. Why should you? You're already good at the game. Why use $20 on something you seem to be great at already? Thats like spending cash for a special high speed swimsuit when you're already faster than everyone you know. Now, if you're not so good, it would make some sense. Not to mention, not all good players have credit cards and pay pal accounts. So the question is this: Are there more people who pay because they want to be at Olympic level, or because they aren't good? And do demo payers not pay because they don't care about being better, or because they're good enough, or because they can't?


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It would be incredibly hilarious to me though if you got someone to agree to this, then got a bunch of good players to smurf as demo players though
Don't take it so seriously...

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Old 08-19-2009, 07:26 PM
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Maybe you should spend less time on forums and more time practicing. You're going to get destroyed either way but maybe if you practice you'll get a couple kills.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:47 PM
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Well what's the point then?

If demo players can be good and can't be good along with players who purchased the game what is the competition about? There is nothing then to prove is there if in the end some are good and some arnt. Maybe you can be proud of killing less skilled paid users? Might as well just join an official game and play with whoever.

Bringing up a competition between payed and not payed already speaks of a difference in gameplay so what is it? Payed players have more options is all. Therefore as not all are better, payed players have a definite advantage

ps no bear sightings yet :/
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:47 PM
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Imo [PRO]fessional and [PRO]Wedge should play on the demo side. While we're at it with trolls how about adding Adolph Hitler (lol at not even being able to spell his name) and Jewbag?
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:50 PM
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Not having paypal/card is a hilariously bad excuse. Do adults without cards really exist? I mean, especially if youre sitting on your pc/your parents pc, lol. I can understand a lot of other reasons though, no cash atm etc, but the demo users with 100+ hours logged, pay or gtfo :/ Theyre obviously enjoying the game, which is what counts(not that 'Im good already' ****).
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:07 PM
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Imo [PRO]fessional should play on the demo side.
PROfessional is a smurf account played by Kuja who is a paid player.
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