Introducing: Official Ladder Administration Thread

[ryebone]

These are the current admins. You may contact any of these admins for issues regarding admining, including reporting leavers and ban appeals:
- Nobodyhome
- Mikesol
- Ryebone
- Tgleaf
- Drunkguava
- Smushface
- Sunshineduck
- Matattack
- Woken
- Princess Squirtle
- Threevenge
- Darknietzsche
- Aki
- Soccer

As well as some inactive admins, who have admin power but don't play much anymore (ever):
- Eth
- Maimer
- Esoteric
- King
- Tyr
- Pieface


If you see any misconduct going on in the ladder servers, please report them in this thread or by contacting any one of the active admins, either in game or PM. Remember, admins are not always on the servers and the more people that help in reporting undesired activity, the more the servers will be rid of misconduct. In your report, please include evidence of misconduct, i.e. screenshots of chat or the console (press ~ for seeing votes, etc). To repeat, a full set of screenshots that sufficiently prove misconduct is REQUIRED.

1) Leaving in the middle of a game and not returning.

2) Playing in a maxPing=300 server when you know your connection is too bad to not get continuously disconnected in the middle of a game, causing repeated disruption.

3) Speccing because you didn’t know you were supposed to be in the game

4) Speccing as a player for any other reason, either repeatedly or without giving warning.

5) Vote initiation of the following form:
-ANY vote by a spectator, when there is no consensus that a vote should be called
-A vote by a player with the intent to disrupt the game (calling vote stop tournament when the game is about to end, etc).

6) Acing in the middle of a game.

7) Playing a ladder game while under level 13 of any ace rank.

8) Spectators not using team-chat after being asked to by a player. All-chat is fine until someone asks them to team-chat. In addition, players who continually try to engage spectators in conversation after spec-chat has been called will be banned as well.

9) Racism/Bigotry. General immaturity. Excessive or unrelenting trash talk targeting specific players.

10) Playing random, full or custom.

11) Playing on multiple accounts (i.e. smurfing). Alternate accounts are subject to permabanning (the main account receives a regular ban).

12) Any activity not listed above that can cause a negative experience for others while playing ladder.

13) Showboating in any manner.

You alone are responsible for all activity on your account. Please do not let others play on your account.

The password for the ladder servers is "ayaispro" for the tbd servers, and "fartispro" for the ball servers. Please do NOT give these passwords out to anyone. If someone asks you for the password, kindly direct them to this thread, so that they may read the rules before entering the server. "I didn't know the rules" is not an acceptable excuse for appealing bans.

Again, if you see any of these behaviors in the ladder server, please help us by reporting it here and including the required screenshots for evidence.

[nobodyhome]

Post moved to ryebone

[Radium]

Good to have responsible people that actively play ladder be admin.
I know sometimes I wished there was an admin for certain reasons
Keeps ladders running smoothly

[DryBone]

Gah! sry for leaving mid game urgent business called me (sry)

[wolf'j'max]

no admin noticed but i thought i would just tell.
i had to leave a ladder game about a few minutes ago because i had an urgent call which made me lose my internet.
i don't have an appeal to not get my ban.

wolf.

[[Y]]

Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

no admin noticed but i thought i would just tell.
i had to leave a ladder game about a few minutes ago because i had an urgent call which made me lose my internet.
i don't have an appeal to not get my ban.

wolf.

How does a phone call kill your internet?

[Ajuk999]

Originally Posted by [Y]

How does a phone call kill your internet?

I believe wolf lives in Amsterdam.

[wolf'j'max]

Originally Posted by Ajuk999

I believe wolf lives in Amsterdam.

yeah but we have 2 phones, if we pick it up on one we dont lose it since its a direct connection to our server but the second is via the internet...
i had to take that since in the other room my sis was making her homework..

[MajorPayne257]

Good to see some more admins. Hope this makes for a much better experience!

[Wok3N^]

One thing that will help keep our ladder community peaceful and free from raging is if the ladder server had a max of 6 players per team as in, once 6 players join a side, it is technically impossible for another player to join that team. This will prevent the last second joining on a team while the vote for the start of the match is going on.

[Evan20000]

Is there anyway to remove the auto-spec feature? That causes a ton of problems.

[poofighter24]

tgleaf plays ladder? huh, first I'd ever heard of that.

APATHY4ADMIN

[CCN]

Situation:
We have a leaver for 3rd game in a row, people don't want to play 4v4.
Can we vote custom stoptournament

[wolf'j'max]

Yeah, please make a new custom command: /vote custom stop_ladder

[Pieface]

Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

Yeah, please make a new custom command: /vote custom stop_ladder

Originally Posted by nobodyhome

Apr. 28 2010
Removed the ability to vote stopTournament. Replaced it with a custom command stop_tournament--to invoke, type /vote custom stop_tournament. This custom command does stopTournament as well as changes the current map to the ladder lobby. This was done so that the threshold for stopTournament (which was hard coded at 50%) can be changed (to 80% for custom stop_tournament).

So yes, I think it would be acceptable to call this vote seeing as the pass threshold is now higher.

[wolf'j'max]

so we were having awesome games and then this:



and this:



happened.

[Habeas]

Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

so we were having awesome games and then this:



and this:



happened.

404 Errors on your pictures!

[[Y]]

Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

so we were having awesome games and then this:



and this:



happened.

tattletale fail

btw wolf, I was kidding when I said ban lol no need to come here and complain

[nobodyhome]

bump for some edits to the main post. the changes were:

- minimum level to play on ladder upped from 8 -> 13 (13 is when you get heavy armor)
- removed the "not speccing when you're the last player to join game in ladder lobby" clause because it no longer applies
- added emphasis on the REQUIRED screenshots for someone to report a bannable offense. we need evidence!
- clarified when it is ok to initiate a vote kick on someone. basically, if that someone isn't doing anything that's bannable, a kick on him is illegal.

pieface, can you actually sticky this thread? i want more people to be able to see this, and also, i'd like to separate ban appeals/discussions from actual ladder discussions that are taking place on the ladder thread.

[tyr]

I'm also playing much more than before and I often spectate ladder games while talking about random stuff in spec chat, so consider that I'm not "inactive" admin anymore.

And I'm not a nice person, so you be nice or else !

[A Nipple]

good job =] hopefully this should stop people ruining games now!

nip

[Evan20000]

Originally Posted by tyr

I'm also playing much more than before and I often spectate ladder games while talking about random stuff in spec chat, so consider that I'm not "inactive" admin anymore.

And I'm not a nice person, so you be nice or else !

Good to have you back.

[X_denied]

PUT ME up as AdMin!

asia time admin ftw!!

LAWWLL

[nobodyhome]

to maimer, who has so kindly added "INTRODUCING:" to the title of this thread:

a big FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!

[Evan20000]

Introducing the introductions introducing the Ladder Administration: The book: The movie: The thread.

Would that be any better?

[A Nipple]

*presses reset button*

[argonide]

vote kicking someone for having 1 kill(after having been asked to stop being useless) and being criminally bad at bomb running is legit right?

[A Nipple]

what IFFFF it is 5 v 3 after people leave and when u try to vote lobby they refuse, its one thing not sitting for 5v4 but 5v3 is unplayable and completely unfair???
anyone would accept that unless they got personal issues lol

p.s.the people who leave would get bans to obv!

[[Y]]

In light of recent issues, I propose we incorporate clause 12 into the official ladder rules, as proposed by CCN.

"A player in the ladder servers may be kicked for: 12) Any activity not listed above that can cause a negative experience for others while playin"

[A Nipple]

Originally Posted by [Y]

In light of recent issues, I propose we incorporate clause 12 into the official ladder rules, as proposed by CCN.

"A player in the ladder servers may be kicked for: 12) Any activity not listed above that can cause a negative experience for others while playin"

thats quite broad to implicate! I suggest an amendment known as the 'Nipple Titty(treaty) Act 2010' whereby all ladder games MUST record 5 players on both teams at the exact second a team wins and if it is any less then the system automatically does not record the match in the ladder standings! technically I have no idea how this would be implicated, however, with the amount of genius you have and implicate for the game on a daily basis I am sure you can bash some numbers together which would mean this is viable!



nip

p.s. the reason I say the second is because I am aware that people may get the odd ping kick and rejoin ingame, however, to play a game pings ought to be stable enough to maintain a connection! for at least 95% of the entire match!

[Evan20000]

However, people would leave to duck a loss if that were implimented.

[A Nipple]

Originally Posted by Evan20000

However, people would leave to duck a loss if that were implimented.

touche...touche my friend 8[

the nipple titty act is potentially void...PUCK

[[Y]]

To deal with leavers I was thinking that when the custom start_map vote passes, if there are 12 or more people total on teams, that 6 players be allowed into the game for each team, and then it's up to each team to decide who sits. Then, if someone leaves like we've been seeing happen frequently, the person that was forced to sit can join up and play for the rest of the game, while the person who left would be forced to spectate due to startTournament if he comes back. Of course, you could still play with 10 or 11 people, but then you run the risk of 4v4 games like we are currently. If it's not too hard to code, I believe this could be a more lenient alternative to the strict banhammer system that tyr seems to have taken a liking to.

[tyr]

When someone leaves intentionally without saying nothing (and that is very easy to see now, thanks to the last patch) when he's supposed to play a game, I'll ban after the game, doesnt matter if there are 5 or 6 players total in the team. When you start playing a game, you finish that game, you don't just leave in the middle.

[York]

When does ladder get reset?

[CCN]

Last game I played on new justice, other team bombed while we were downloading the 1.8mb map. When the blue team finally arrive they were on their last bombing run with our base at a sliver of health. PB&J did 92 points of damage, drybone did the other bomb.

I would like to petition for bans on these 2 players under segments listed below.

11) General immaturity.

12) Any activity not listed above that can cause a negative experience for others while playing ladder.

Also, can I kick them from the server after ruining a game like this so the rest of everyone doesn't leave out of disgust and not wanting to play with these people.

I Didn't know exactly what to screen-shot to prove the point but I got the text as i Arrived with "Bomb them bomb them" and showing blue team members just coming into the game.

http://imgur.com/JZhBY


http://altitudeladder.net/match.php?id=3469&mode=0

2 minute game, with many people downloading the new map (and not loading till about 2 minutes...)

[Greekjr14]

Originally Posted by CCN

Last game I played on new justice, other team bombed while we were downloading the 1.8mb map. When the blue team finally arrive they were on their last bombing run with our base at a sliver of health. PB&J did 92 points of damage, drybone did the other bomb.

I would like to petition for bans on these 2 players under segments listed below.

11) General immaturity.

12) Any activity not listed above that can cause a negative experience for others while playing ladder.

Also, can I kick them from the server after ruining a game like this so the rest of everyone doesn't leave out of disgust and not wanting to play with these people.

I Didn't know exactly what to screen-shot to prove the point but I got the text as i Arrived with "Bomb them bomb them" and showing blue team members just coming into the game.

http://imgur.com/JZhBY

My apologies. Tbh I thought that people got disconnected (as it does sometimes usually when a new patch or update is up) and I thought no one was on anymore so I was just bombing and waiting to get disconnected too. Then when I saw people jioning I was like "oh f**k". I didn't know people had to download the map, I never had to download the map and since Drybone was with me I didnt think he had to either, so I just assumed that so many people (about 8 at the time) had to download it at the same time. Again I apologize and if a ban is necessary for my stupidity then oh well.

Genesis

[CCN]

Originally Posted by Greekjr14

My apologies. Tbh I thought that people got disconnected (as it does sometimes usually when a new patch or update is up) and I thought no one was on anymore so I was just bombing and waiting to get disconnected too. Then when I saw people jioning I was like "oh f**k". I didn't know people had to download the map, I never had to download the map and since Drybone was with me I didnt think he had to either, so I just assumed that so many people (about 8 at the time) had to download it at the same time. Again I apologize and if a ban is necessary for my stupidity then oh well.

Genesis

Oh, of course, 8 people get "disced" so you bomb us, 3 times. Then when it comes to light this is not the case, you vote no on the custom stop.

If you really went "Oh **** I made a mistake" rather then as a rationalization now then you would of voted yes to custom stop.

your actions caused the ladder to break up, when everyone had just moved, for good games.

[Greekjr14]

Originally Posted by CCN

Oh, ofcourse, 8 people get "disced" so you bomb us, 3 times. Then when it comes to light this is not the case, you vote no on the custom stop.

If you really went "Oh ****" then you would of voted yes to custom stop.

Well if 8 poeple got disconnected then the match wouldnt count anyways so why not jsut bomb for fun? Like I said when a patch comes up normally lots of us get disconnected from teh servers and I am normally one of the last ones. So I thought it was normal. As to the voting tbh I hit 1 or 2 every vote that goes on as I normally do not pay attention, so once I see "so and so has called a vote to" I just hit 1 or 2 as I am usually playing and just want to get it over with.

[gemigemi]

Originally Posted by Greekjr14

Well if 8 poeple got disconnected then the match wouldnt count anyways so why not jsut bomb for fun? Like I said when a patch comes up normally lots of us get disconnected from teh servers and I am normally one of the last ones. So I thought it was normal. As to the voting tbh I hit 1 or 2 every vote that goes on as I normally do not pay attention, so once I see "so and so has called a vote to" I just hit 1 or 2 as I am usually playing and just want to get it over with.

Even not considering the issue with the game, I think randomly hitting 1 or 2 for votes should be bannable. Do NOT do this. That is what the option for key 5 is for, it closes the vote without any votes. Do NOT press 1 or 2 if you don't mean it.

To be honest I think usually when someone claims that they hit the keys randomly they actually don't but use it as an excuse. And imo it's a bad excuse.