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#5
05-06-2010, 01:34 AM
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Why would you use hairspray as a way to keep your hair in place when you could put a match in front of it and make a neat flamethrower?
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#6
05-06-2010, 01:43 AM
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05-06-2010, 01:44 AM
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05-06-2010, 01:46 AM
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05-06-2010, 01:52 AM
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05-06-2010, 02:20 AM
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I believe in Global Warming. Every year during a season most people call "Summer" there is a serious amount of heat, and believe it or not, snow all around melts. And when the season "Winter" comes around, the snow that was melted, is soon replaced by amounts of snow. And oh by the way, late last year and early this year, there was record snow and rain levels in America. Washington D.C. has never seen the likes.
Also, I think I found out why there was so much snow melting the last past few years. 
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#15
05-06-2010, 02:31 AM
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i tend to go out of my way to litter and not recycle as 'going green' will do nothing to stabilize the nature of the period of novelty we are all-too-uncomfortably-yet-enthrallingly approaching.
RIP terrence mckenna, if you could only see the sht thats goin on now
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#18
05-06-2010, 05:05 AM
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global warming is a fact....average temps are goin up...
whether or not you wanna call it permanent or blame humans for it....
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#20
05-06-2010, 07:10 AM
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I don't get what you're expecting from an online forum. It's not as if most people take the time to actually study the science behind global warming or evolution. Also, even if people here do actually know about it - most are just going to troll and post about wanting to destroy the planet or nuke stuff.
It's a good thought and all - but don't expect anyone to have an intelligent conversation here - especially in the water cooler  You will always find people who counter global warming with things like: dude it's snowing. Or evolution with: dude why aren't monkeys transforming into humans NOW. Or the age of the universe with: Well the bible tells me otherwise. Or anything scientific with: Well I'm really quite ignorant of the world but I'm going to debate anyway because someone told me this one view.
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#21
05-06-2010, 07:23 AM
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#22
05-06-2010, 09:02 AM
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Drink beer, it saves water
Download music illegally, saves the planet alot from actually buying the non-green stuff xD Drink more beer Kill most humans... Did you know that the earth always has the same amount of water on earth!?!!?!?!? ^^awsum and i dun get hwy global warming exists (sea rose like 6 meters past year, even tho the global temperature average isnt higher, polar ice caps are melting >.>) Global warming, it's happening or if its not, who cares! we won't die due to it, and neither will the next 15 generations.... Also, if global warming is keeping hot air in, and we're creating an ozone hole, wat <--- i dont get it it doesnt make sense Last edited by evilarsenal; 05-06-2010 at 09:04 AM.
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#25
05-06-2010, 05:36 PM
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Don't Fly?
We trying to go back 300 years or what? That's why Global Warming sucks, People really can never give a invention that will "save the earth" and still be efficient with mankind. We always got to go back a few decades. ;(
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#26
05-06-2010, 05:39 PM
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Me and Sins still need to go to the woods and start a forest fire. If "You can prevent a forest fire" is true shouldnt "You can start a forest fire" be true also?
Kuja and Pieface you are invited also!
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#27
05-06-2010, 05:42 PM
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On the somewhat related note of population growth: if we were to discover another planet the size of the Earth today and continue with the same exponential rate of growth we have now, within 100 years we would surpass the carrying capacity of the new planet's resources.
Kind of blows your mind, doesn't it. IMHO the first step to solving problems such as global warming and world poverty is to slow or even reverse the disastrous rate of growth we are experiencing right now. Edit: the "Save Water, Drink Beer" comment reminds me of a reference in the music video of the song "Move Along." Five stars go to anyone who can figure out what I'm referring to. Last edited by Pieface; 05-06-2010 at 05:49 PM.
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05-06-2010, 05:44 PM
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05-06-2010, 06:12 PM
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Imo where we get our energy is the most important component of preventing global warming and the environment from getting too much worse. Oil and coal are def not the way to go (see: gulf of mexico...). Quote:
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#31
05-06-2010, 06:25 PM
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I agree with drunk. We can't try to stop population growth artificially. Just let the earth run it's course.<---Moronic.
"The world is NOT over-populated. More than 97% of the land surface on Earth is empty.... Yes, certain cities are over-populated, of course. Yet the entire population of the world could fit inside the state of Arkansas. So, then, how is the world 'over-populated'? Europe and Japan will be facing under-population crises in the coming decades, even according to UN studies on population." -- Anthony C. LoBaido Last edited by Ajuk999; 05-06-2010 at 07:55 PM.
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#32
05-06-2010, 06:42 PM
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Yay intarwebs politics!
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#33
05-06-2010, 06:44 PM
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The main problem with population growth is not that we do not have enough land to live on. At the moment, the human species has surpassed the carrying capacity resource-wise of our planet. That is not an opinion, but a fact. The larger the world population grows, the less resources are available for the vast majority of humans that can not afford food or basic comforts. The more humans there are, the more we harm our environment in order to satisfy our "needs." No matter what progresses we make, the planet can not sustain the current population size and even less the amount of people that there will be in 20 years.
Not saying that instituting birth limits and such is the best way to solve the problem, but when you look at graphs like this (knowing that we've reached another billion in the last decade) and compare them to the numbers of species going extinct, global warming data and the like, it's pretty obvious that we can't sustain this growth forever. Just something fun to think about. DEBATE TIME GOGOGOGO
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#34
05-06-2010, 07:36 PM
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Pieface you were right, that was something "fun" to think about. But that is all it was. There was no evidence or proof. (Enough with the Ad-hominem attacks)
Tennessee Population: 6,296,254 Nebraska population: 1,796,619 Los Angeles Population: 9,862,049 Compare the above numbers. There is more people living in L.A. then there is the states of Nebraska and Tennessee combined! So you see the world isn't "over populated" People just tend to gather were everyone else is at. So If California is were all of the action is at, then that's where most people will move to, for that very reason. America is not "overpopulated" people say that because in Metropolitan and Cosmopolitan areas, there are high amounts of people compared to low amounts of people in small states and cities. In America alone, everyone literally lives on the East Coast or the West Coast. There is so few people that live in the middle, like Kansas with a population of a mere "2,818,747" or how about Minnesota's population "5,266,214" or maybe even North Dakota's "646,844". Now Compare those numbers with California's Population "36,961,664" or New York "19,541,453" People live in Cosmopolitan and modern areas, people won't flock to areas that are old and "un-modernised". In order for a place to populate, they have to be efficient in technology, agriculture, transportation, etc. So it is not helping when we try to use "solar energy" thats what ancient's did. It isn't progressing either, there is nothing fascinating about using natural resources. So the problem isn't that the earth is overpopulated, the problem is that the areas that are under populated are like that because they cannot provide the efficient means of life. To prove my point about people living where "everyone" else lives, take a look at the following population chart about the Top World Cities by Population. More Later...(My Brain Hurts) Last edited by Ajuk999; 05-06-2010 at 08:04 PM.
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05-06-2010, 07:39 PM
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#36
05-06-2010, 07:46 PM
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I agree with you 100% that this growth is not sustainable. I am not with Ajuk that we should just let the world work itself out. I went to that guy's website that he quoted and it's some neo-con bull**** (the world is not about to be under populated, wtf?) that has ads plastering the sides talking about how obama's a socialist etc etc.
I think that the world's population growth is declining because of medical advances. Nowadays, because most babies grow up, families do not need to produce as many. That does NOT mean that the world's population is declining. It just means that the growth rate is declining. There are a few countries like Japan and Italy I think that have birthrate of <2 though. edit: one more thing, pie. correlation does not imply causation. though our carbon dioxide emissions are huge now compared to 1000 years ago, obviously we had the industrial revolution etc etc that contributed to this. Right now, the richest 7% of the world is responsible for 50% of carbon emissions every year. The poorest 50% (where most of the pop. growth is happening) is responsible for just 7% of emissions. In my opinion, pop growth is not to blame for any of our environmental problems. The problems are created by the rich countries, like the US, China, and a lot of Europe, where pop. growth is really not that much. These countrys' carbon footprints and misuse of natural resources is causing global warming. (one thing to be wary of, however, is that once these poor nations industrialize, their emission output will explode just like ours did in the 20th c. :-\ --> India is an example) Last edited by drunkguava; 05-06-2010 at 08:07 PM.
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#37
05-06-2010, 07:48 PM
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How is it not sustainable?
Quit saying it is "unsustainable" Tell me how it is, and give me proof. You won't get anywhere with rhetoric. I guess it came out wrong, but I don't believe we should let the earth "run it's course" I just don't think that we should artificially try to preserve it. Because we can't. What are we gonna do, assume the earth can't handle it? Drunk: I was quoting the chart. Apologies for the **** Last edited by Ajuk999; 05-06-2010 at 07:53 PM.
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#38
05-06-2010, 07:57 PM
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I also am not exactly inclined to look too deeply into that quote, since the same guy posted on his blog that
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If I really have to go back and look through my old high school Biology stuff, I will. I thought the point I was making would be pretty exoteric but apparently it could benefit from some backup! I definitely don't think population limiting is the way to solve the world's problems (look at China's ratio of males to females since the one-child law was introduced), but I do believe overpopulation helps speed other problems up.
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#39
05-06-2010, 08:01 PM
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Man, Ajuk you are trolling right? You don't actually believe what you are saying right? Over population is a definite problem we could encounter in the near future, it's not about fitting people on land, it's about resources. Things such as drinking water and food are more important than packing everyone into the same space. Sure, LA has way more people, but how much of their food is grown on LA land? How much of their water comes from LA lakes? And abortion isn't going to be what saves us (it's effects are miminal), it will be women's rights and their role in the workplace that eventually saves us. As women transition over from a role of full-time mother their family sizes will get smaller and smaller. This will eventually (hopefully) lead to a plateau of population on the planet before we run out of resources to keep those people alive.
Also, global warming is as close to fact as you are going to get. The earth is definitely warming, it's just a matter of how to handle it. In my opinion just shoot sulfur dioxide into the atmosphere to cool down the earth.
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#40
05-06-2010, 08:04 PM
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If we're being serious:
Pie's right in a lot of regards. * We are in danger of running out of resources on the planet. Overpopulation will be a threat - potentially within our lifetime * Global warming exists. Science has demonstrated pretty clearly that it's man-made. Nobody can really agree on when the global warming is going to cause serious harm but certain creatures are already going extinct because of the warming. Give it another 20 years at this rate and our ecosystem will be messed up. ' Side Fact: * Gay marriage killed the dinosaurs. Side Edit: I really hope you're trolling Ajuk. Reading neo-con websites and only watching fox news will not inform you of the world we live in.
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so much for trying to helpp the planet.... 
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