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Old 12-13-2010, 04:20 PM
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Taking Off: The Unofficial Guide to Altitude


1 Introduction
2 Menus
2.1 Splash Screen
2.2 Friends List
2.2.1 Adding Friends
2.3 Options
2.4 Hangar Deck
2.4.1 Challenges
2.4.2 Community Points
2.5 Server Select
3 Gameplay
3.1 Plane Selection
3.2 Scoreboard
3.3 Console
3.3.1 Chat
3.3.2 Commands
3.3.2.1 General Commands
3.3.2.2 Restricted to Server Admins
4 Add-Ons
4.1 Mumble
4.2 AltBouncer
4.3 Screen Capture
4.3.1 Screenshots
4.3.2 Video Recording
5 Maps
5.1 Current Maps
5.2 Walkthrough/Tutorial on making a map:
6 Forums
6.1 Purpose of the Forums
6.2 Getting Started
7 Clans
7.1 What is a Clan?
7.2 Getting Into a Clan
7.3 Making Your Own Clan
8 Ladder
8.1 Before You Join
8.2 Points System
8.3 Plane Composition
8.4 Optimal Perk Set Ups
8.5 Angry People Are Angry
9 Common Altitude Knowledge
9.1 Lingo
9.1.1 Commonly Used Emoticons
9.2 Nicknames/Shortened Names
9.3 Developers
9.4 "Famous" Players
9.5 Volunteers/Developers' Helpers
9.6 Additional Roles
10 Closing Words

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Old 12-13-2010, 05:17 PM
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Um, the outline looks great. You really intend to do all of that? It seems like a ton of work, but the Wiki could really use some fleshing out and if it's written well, we could update the Wiki with your contributions.

Even if you just plan to use it for your own purposes, please consider posting it to the Beta Guides subforum.

Edit: much of what you've outlined already exists in some form or another. Be sure to comb through the existing guides so you don't redo all of that work. You guide to everything could include links to existing guides and/or Wiki pages, as needed. For example, the plane-specific guides (e.g. Guide to Bomber) include perk discussions that are fairly complete and written by people who mained those planes for a long time to get that knowledge. Also, I would skip any map-specific discussions in your guide, unless you think there's a good reason to do so. Anyone versed in general Altitude knowledge -- that is, someone who has spent time reading through the existing guides -- and who has played the game for any significant amount of time -- say 50 hours -- will already have an idea about how the maps work. Beyond that, you'd be writing more of an expert guide (e.g. "On Darkwar, if you weave in and out of the horizontal obstacles, you can distract trailing planes and escape enemy fire") which wouldn't apply to someone just learning to fly on a bouncy server.

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Old 12-13-2010, 07:15 PM
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I think this is a great idea Flexio!

+111111
Can't wait for this to be published

Post Script: If you need any help at all, I would love to lend a hand!
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Old 12-13-2010, 07:24 PM
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I think this is a great idea Flexio!
Is that a joke or something

Taking tgleaf's advice I think I will take some parts like planes and perks but I think direct information on other things like gameplay, menus, and especially clans would be very useful to a newer player. I remember not even knowing about the forums until I had clocked 80 hours
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:17 PM
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Is that a joke or something

Taking tgleaf's advice I think I will take some parts like planes and perks but I think direct information on other things like gameplay, menus, and especially clans would be very useful to a newer player. I remember not even knowing about the forums until I had clocked 80 hours
No I'm not joking, I do think it's a good idea! I especially like the idea of creating a guide about the menu, clans, etc.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:27 PM
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I would like to officially sponsor this project.

Here's what I'm thinking:

Start a google docs or some other form of collaborative web based document.
Anyone who contributes meaningfully will be awarded CP based on how much they contribute.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:30 PM
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I would like to officially sponsor this project.

Here's what I'm thinking:

Start a google docs or some other form of collaborative web based document.
Anyone who contributes meaningfully will be awarded CP based on how much they contribute.
You mean by helping <person A> with this part of this cool idea, or help <Person B> by giving them <tutorial A> for a picture.

I declare that if anyone just does this for community points, that's silly.


GJ flexio, I truly hope your reputation might come back from some people for this!
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:46 PM
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I declare that if anyone just does this for community points, that's silly.
This coming from the person who wants community points just for playing the game...
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:51 PM
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This coming from the person who wants community points just for playing the game...
I've never said that. I asked to explain why we don't have that, not that I want that. I wanted to hear everyone's opinions.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:58 PM
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Posting it in the Suggestions Forum made it seem like a suggestion.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:59 PM
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awarded CP based on how much they contribute.
I read this, and was wondering about the legalities of it...

..then I realised you meant community points.
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Old 12-13-2010, 08:59 PM
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Awesome ! I'll definetly help out with this.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:24 PM
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sounds great. if you do make a docs, i'd love to contribute.
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:31 PM
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Great idea, if you need help with anything, shoot me a PM and I'll try my best .
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:41 PM
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whoop whoop ill help out too
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:12 PM
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Are people OK with using the wiki for this? I'd be happy to create a separate page for the project and create new wiki accounts for anyone who needs them. The nice thing about doing it that way is that we could easily copy and paste well-written sections to different locations in the main database and people's changes would also be accessible to Karl so he could get a quick idea of how much people contributed.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:17 PM
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Start a google docs or some other form of collaborative web based document.
Anyone who contributes meaningfully will be awarded CP based on how much they contribute.
Wait so am I in charge of this google docs/wiki thing and people contribute to me or what?

Anyway here the outline so far: I've started the actual writing process but I've only gotten the options part currently


I. Introduction
II. Menus
_A. Splash Screen
_B. Friends List
____1. Adding Friends
___C. Options
___D. Hangar Deck
____1. Challenges
____2. Community Points
_D. Server Select
III. Gameplay
_A. Plane Select
_B. Scoreboard
IV. Forums
_A. Purpose of the Forums
_B. Getting Started
V. Clans
_A. What is a Clan?
_B. Getting Into a Clan
_C. Making Your Own Clan
VI. Common Altitude Knowledge
_A. Devs
_B. Famous Players
_C. Dev Helpers
VII. Closing Words
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:30 PM
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Dude, this is a very good idea. I would love to help out, AND I would love to add to the guide, *making maps* The map editor is VERY intimidating for new comers and VERY hard to figure out unless you have help.

I have quite a bit of map making experience with the editor and all, and I have quite a bit of graphic design experience. I would love to help out on this part of the guide if you are intending on adding it.

Good luck on this, and just ask if you want my help.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:39 PM
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I would love to add to the guide, *making maps* The map editor is VERY intimidating for new comers and VERY hard to figure out unless you have help.
I was actually thinking about this myself but then tgleaf pointed out that many things in the original outline already had "guides" (planes, perks.) He didn't mention the map editor guide but I felt like it kind of fell into the same category; the current one isn't too in-depth thought so I might include something like this.

And to everybody: Thanks for the contributions to help.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:44 PM
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Are people OK with using the wiki for this? I'd be happy to create a separate page for the project and create new wiki accounts for anyone who needs them. The nice thing about doing it that way is that we could easily copy and paste well-written sections to different locations in the main database and people's changes would also be accessible to Karl so he could get a quick idea of how much people contributed.
I think this is the best route we have right now.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:45 PM
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I meant to say this before but now I need a new title since it doesn't include everything now lol.
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:47 PM
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How about "The layman's guide to Altitude"
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Old 12-13-2010, 10:55 PM
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Before this gets rolling I'd like to have something made clear to me: So it will probably be done on the wiki since that seems easiest;
but am I in charge of (like Karl said) collecting everyone's contributions and putting them together?
Or will it just be a free for all on the wiki?
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:04 PM
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Your call. I think it would be best to have at least one page that anyone can edit to showcase their ideas, but if you'd like to compile them separately in your own format nothing's preventing that as well.

I'll probably go through completed sections and copy them to the appropriate part of the wiki when they are done to flesh it out a bit more.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:11 PM
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How about "The layman's guide to Altitude"
I like "The Hitchhiker's guide to Altitude" personally . Basically the same thing but more to the original. If you guys are doing this on the wiki, then can pie make an account or whatever for me, all I know how to do is press f, d, and s <3.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:23 PM
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Your call. I think it would be best to have at least one page that anyone can edit to showcase their ideas
Yeah that sounds great. I think I'll compile my ideas separately and then maybe put it on the wiki page with everyone else?... But anyway the page for everybody sounds cool.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:26 PM
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Flexio, the map guide already doesn't help at all, Or at least that's my case.

I think there could be WAY more maps and map making people if you had me make this part and you added it.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:30 PM
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Flexio, the map guide already doesn't help at all, Or at least that's my case.
Well it helps with the basics like making geoms and such but I understand what you mean.
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Old 12-13-2010, 11:34 PM
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Alright, let's get this thing started! CLICK HERE to see more information about how the process will work on the Wiki. If you follow the link you'll see I copied Flexio's outline into the community-editable wiki page. It can of course be changed as you see fit. If people can agree on a new title for the page I'll go ahead and change it as well. Everyone should feel free to write new content and edit what is already there.

From now on anyone who would like to obtain a wiki account to edit should post here or PM someone who already has an account. If you have any questions about wiki editing in general also feel free to post here and I'll try to help out.

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Old 12-14-2010, 12:20 AM
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Pie, we should add a section about Mumble and another about Screen Capture (Video Recording, Screenshots, and ImageShack). These could go under a heading called "Add-Ons."

Edit: I went ahead and adding these sections. I am currently working on the Clan sections and on the Add-Ons sections. Comments/changes are welcome.

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Old 12-14-2010, 12:31 AM
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Mmm, looks great Pieface! I like how you added a link to my forums account hahaha
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:36 AM
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I want to add, this idea has alot of great potential - guides could be constructed with the aide of other players easily.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:40 AM
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Since I have never edited a wiki before I think I will wait to edit until somebody else does first so I don't embarass my self hehe.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:47 AM
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Since I have never edited a wiki before I think I will wait to edit until somebody else does first so I don't embarass my self hehe.
I'm editing as we speak... feel free to PM me with content if you prefer to do it that way.
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:20 AM
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I'm editing as we speak... feel free to PM me with content if you prefer to do it that way.
Likewise.

I can see your edits already tgleaf!
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Old 12-14-2010, 01:45 AM
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Adding friends section finished. If I forgot something or typed in something wrong, please feel free to change it.
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Old 12-14-2010, 03:56 AM
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Wow, this sounds great. I would love to help out if you want me!
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:15 AM
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can i get an acct pie.

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Old 12-14-2010, 04:46 AM
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Ah, already starting to shape up. Just added a few things of my own.
Also I meant for people like Vi and Maimer to go in the Devs Helpers Section if that could be worked out.
Done and done. I think it would be neat if everyone made a list of the things they've contributed so far. Right now all I've done is post the devs and the devs helpers.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:46 AM
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I'd like to help Nikon in filling out the maps section.
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