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Old 03-03-2012, 04:31 PM
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:52 PM
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since the rules thread is being linked, am i safe to assume mled is not playing for flb?
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Old 03-03-2012, 06:58 PM
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since the rules thread is being linked, am i safe to assume mled is not playing for flb?
That's not a safe assumption and technically, as the rules were stated then (they have been amended since) there are some interpretations where Mled didn't actually break any rules. The topic is still being discussed by the admins, you'll know when a verdict has been reached and you WILL like it.
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Old 03-03-2012, 10:54 PM
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I was just wondering, how come fLb has 5 points, and the other 2-0 teams have 4 points.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:33 AM
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I was just wondering, how come fLb has 5 points, and the other 2-0 teams have 4 points.
Dont worry about that, the challonge has been updated in the wrong way so i set the first game (fLb vs $$) as an example for the people to see how to update the challonge correctly. Teams with two 2-0 wins should have 6 points.
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Old 03-04-2012, 04:41 AM
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since the rules thread is being linked, am i safe to assume mled is not playing for flb?
trololololol
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:01 AM
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since the rules thread is being linked, am i safe to assume mled is not playing for flb?
There was a loophole in the rules, it is now fixed but as you can see it was fixed after the mled issue. The final decision will be posted today.
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:12 AM
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Dont worry about that, the challonge has been updated in the wrong way so i set the first game (fLb vs $$) as an example for the people to see how to update the challonge correctly. Teams with two 2-0 wins should have 6 points.
So when is this going to be fixed?
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Old 03-04-2012, 11:41 AM
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This is the aplmins i.e andy/rib's clever way of keeping flb top of the table xD Not if us and sams have anything to do with it =)
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:30 PM
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This is the aplmins i.e andy/rib's clever way of keeping flb top of the table xD Not if us and sams have anything to do with it =)
Foiled!

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Old 03-04-2012, 12:50 PM
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So when is this going to be fixed?
When i get an answer from whoever updated it saying he understands it.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:01 PM
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Mled will not be allowed to play against QQ, KLF or IL for the rest of the regular season (he will be allowed to play those teams during the playoffs).
The reason for this is that with the old rules he would've been allowed to play as a smurf on the new team, which is not what we want. We changed the rules so this isnt possible anymore but since it happened before the rule change he is allowed to play as long as he doesnt play the same team twice in regular season.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:56 PM
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Mled will not be allowed to play against QQ, KLF or IL for the rest of the regular season (he will be allowed to play those teams during the playoffs).
The reason for this is that with the old rules he would've been allowed to play as a smurf on the new team, which is not what we want. We changed the rules so this isnt possible anymore but since it happened before the rule change he is allowed to play as long as he doesnt play the same team twice in regular season.
What a silly, convulated rule to keep up the pretense of fairness. Just let him play all the games.

Also, explain again how you made it impossible for anyone to smurf for another team?
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:04 PM
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What a silly, convulated rule to keep up the pretense of fairness. Just let him play all the games.

Also, explain again how you made it impossible for anyone to smurf for another team?
If you, the captain of IL, want him to play against you then I'm sure that can be arranged, but we aren't going to force anyone to play him twice.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:07 PM
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Also, explain again how you made it impossible for anyone to smurf for another team?
Who said it was impossible? It is rather easy to create a new VaporID that is different then any that had previously existed, considering there are 340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,45 6 of them available.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:22 PM
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If you, the captain of IL, want him to play against you then I'm sure that can be arranged, but we aren't going to force anyone to play him twice.
see: pretense of fairness

@Aki- Andy did.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:33 PM
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@Aki- Andy did.
Rules != Server
"not possible" meaning a player is not able to rules lawyer themselves out of rules due to smurfing as opposed to the server will not allow a smurf to play
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:00 PM
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6. Spectator rules
- All chatting during a game is a bannable offence.
- 1st time kick.
- 2nd time two day ban.
- 3rd time two week ban.
am I missing something? you meant all-chat right? as in the chat that everyone can see?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:05 PM
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am I missing something? you meant all-chat right? as in the chat that everyone can see?
Yeah. Ill edit it. Also only applies to spectators since its under spectator rules.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:28 PM
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O you mean like people not playing in the game? the ones spectating?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:31 PM
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O you mean like people not playing in the game? the ones spectating?
Yeah, i cant do anything to enforce it if im playing. Admins not playing will try to enforce the rules, I can only warn them after the game in case of a first offence.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:35 PM
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I'm sure you warned kuja super hard after the game was over. thanks andy

Also you should probably amend the rules to reflect your 'warn first' policy instead of what it says now which is "1st time kick"
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:40 PM
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R3: SAM vs fLb 0-2, qq vs FRO 2-1, KLF vs PewPew 2-0, $$ vs IL
R4: KLF vs fLb 0-2, IL vs SAM, FRO vs PewPew 2-0, qq vs $$ 2-0
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:41 PM
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I'm sure you warned kuja super hard after the game was over. thanks andy

Also you should probably amend the rules to reflect your 'warn first' policy instead of what it says now which is "1st time kick"
You couldve asked mikesol to kick him, I didnt have time there. I wont kick him for 2 minutes in an empty server, it serves no purpose.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:43 PM
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what i asked was for kuja to follow the rules, a request that was clearly defied.

stayin classy flb
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:47 PM
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It's not APL without drama <3
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:48 PM
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what i asked was for kuja to follow the rules, a request that was clearly defied.

stayin classy flb
u mad bro?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:53 PM
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what i asked was for kuja to follow the rules, a request that was clearly defied.

stayin classy flb
You realise that Mike is a head admin too? Appeal to someone who's not busy next time.
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:59 PM
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what i asked was for kuja to follow the rules, a request that was clearly defied.

stayin classy flb
If mled doesn't have to follow the rules, why would kuja?

The fro games were really good today, but where's IL? Did they forfeit or are the teams that need to play them still waiting?
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:11 PM
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$$ and IL agreed to a reschedule next week.
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Old 03-04-2012, 09:33 PM
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Mike also agreed to a reschedule.
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Old 03-04-2012, 10:20 PM
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Hi my bad on that ufo. I had not reviewed the apl rules in quite some time and was not aware that there were chat rules for apl.
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:33 AM
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You realise that Mike is a head admin too? Appeal to someone who's not busy next time.
My appeal was to kuja; that he not break the rules. Thanks for the acknowledgement kuj, just hope we can move forth with the gentlemen's game rules intact
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Old 03-05-2012, 12:37 AM
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If mled doesn't have to follow the rules, why would kuja?
I am disappoint Sage. Mled didn't break any rules, as they were only modified after week one. The discussion on this has ended and was agreed on by all admins (including DN). If you're not in full possession of all the facts, please try not to make ridiculous statements.

Similarly, I don't expect Andy would have stopped playing mid-game to ban anyone, regardless of what clan they were from.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:54 AM
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Similarly, I don't expect Andy would have stopped playing mid-game to ban anyone, regardless of what clan they were from.
I asked for kuja to spec chat, not for andy to stop playing mid-game to ban him.

Starting to feel like a broken record
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:58 AM
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I asked for kuja to spec chat, not for andy to stop playing mid-game to ban him.

Starting to feel like a broken record
sup, ufo - How's it all going brah?
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:48 AM
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hey class everything's goin great, thanks. Hope you didn't think I meant you when I said 'stayin classy flb.'

One more point I'd like to make before I let this go.

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You realise that Mike is a head admin too? Appeal to someone who's not busy next time.
You realise that Mike was playing in that game too right?
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:30 AM
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hey class everything's goin great, thanks. Hope you didn't think I meant you when I said 'stayin classy flb.'

One more point I'd like to make before I let this go.



You realise that Mike was playing in that game too right?
nah course not, you man boi! <3

fo wins
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