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Old 05-19-2010, 07:16 AM
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Default that 50 player football server

is the most retarded thing i have ever seen

i went like 75-20 in 2 rounds while waiting to autojoin a server

with a biplane

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i

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Old 05-19-2010, 07:39 AM
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Servers like these soak up ignorant players preventing real rooms from filling up
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Old 05-19-2010, 07:50 AM
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When I log on to see 40 people playing bouncy football and only 12 people total playing hardwalls I know alti is dying
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:58 AM
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who created the server?
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:09 PM
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Servers like these soak up ignorant players preventing real rooms from filling up
yep hence why it took me two full rounds (which was like 25 minutes) to join bouncy 1, which was the only ball server with anyone in it
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Old 05-19-2010, 04:12 PM
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I saw this server also. I have a screenie somewhere...
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Old 05-19-2010, 05:23 PM
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who created the server?
I wonder at this, too. Of course, the host is never going to reveal his identity seeing the amount of hate towards his server.

Another obvious observation is that this rant thread's only purpose is for "real" players to vent. The devs have no control (nor do they want it) over who hosts what server, and how many people play in said server. People want to play chaotic games on ball_football with 49 other people, it's their choice. We can't force anyone to play on hardwall or to play tbd, and who knows, those people might not even be on Altitude were it not for the 25v25 football server. And maybe (just maybe) the "ignorant nubs" on that server are spreading Altitude. That's how I got into Altitude; when I saw a classmate using demo loopy on ball_football.
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Old 05-19-2010, 08:50 PM
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i've realized that hard wall ball games are really easy to start up if you have 3-4 friends online. VERYYY EASY. just hop on normal 4 and you'll have a full server w/in 15 mins as long as it isnt at a ridiculous time of day/night.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:04 PM
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I bet whoever is hosting the football server is a vet deciding to troll the rest of us. And it's working.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:05 PM
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I saw this server also. I have a screenie somewhere...
cool story bro.
Everyone talks about the server and you're like "oh yeah I saw the server and I have a screen to prove it".
Hmmm ... What exactly does this brings to the conversation ?

Here's an honest advice : think 3 times before posting (because obviously, 2 times isn't enough) if your post brings something constructive to the thread, and if it wasn't already said. If not, just don't post.
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Old 05-19-2010, 09:15 PM
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Default The host is...

the person who yesterday was named pink's sis. Or maybe not but someone in that household. Their ping flashed between 1 and 0.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:59 PM
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Look at all of the players online today!
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:03 PM
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Well if the 50 player football server did nothing else, it seems to have been the final straw in convincing the devs to implement spectator slots!
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Old 05-19-2010, 11:53 PM
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Look at all of the players online today!
Mac support + Free week.
Btw please don't be rude with newbies
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:32 AM
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I played on that server yesterday, 77 kills and 6 deaths, had a 35 kill streak It was fun, but it gets REAL boring real fast.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:38 AM
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Let's all post our wins (are they really wins?) on the football server, I went 98 - 7
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:39 AM
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120+ killstreak. I'm a ****ing whore.
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:41 AM
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120+ killstreak. I'm a ****ing whore.
Do whores do that kind of stuff? Rly?

My multikill was 12, lmao and can't remember my killstreak
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Old 05-20-2010, 04:43 AM
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I was playing Randa, never got over a X5 megakill. Just sat at our goal all game taking potshots at the ball.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:48 AM
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:19 AM
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Okay, no u, maybe outing you wasn't the best way to pressure you to take down that server, but if you heard the chat in the competitive ball games taking place tonight, 90% of the players want the Just Football server taken down. The feeling is that it's ruining the game at a time when many new players are just joining and getting a feel for what Altitude is all about.

Not to say it isn't fun for people or isn't popular (obviously, it's both). But you might consider taking it down at least for a week or so until players have had a chance to try out other servers.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:31 AM
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I made it 34 max, the connection is stable. I'm not taking it down, feel free to pressure me as much as you want.
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:46 AM
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I made it 34 max, the connection is stable. I'm not taking it down, feel free to pressure me as much as you want.
Actually, I appreciate that you at least reduced it.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:27 AM
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okay, no u, maybe outing you wasn't the best way to pressure you to take down that server, but if you heard the chat in the competitive ball games taking place tonight, 90% of the players want the just football server taken down. The feeling is that it's ruining the game at a time when many new players are just joining and getting a feel for what altitude is all about.

Not to say it isn't fun for people or isn't popular (obviously, it's both). But you might consider taking it down at least for a week or so until players have had a chance to try out other servers.
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i pretty much agree -- the huge servers often create a bad impression for new users who naturally gravitate towards the server with the most players, and then conclude the game is nothing but spam.

I'll try to add spectator-only slots in the next patch at which point it will make sense to enforce a reasonable max-non-spec-player-count.
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:26 AM
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Default Sigh....

That server, will give the ICE clan a bad name after you guys figure out who Pink's sis is actually...It's quite an attraction for begginers though. But the limit was cut to 34, for more reasonable connection.

-(Sparta)XX2

EDIT: nvm tgleaf found out...

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Old 05-20-2010, 11:53 AM
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http://tec27.com/altbouncer/#0|36|7b...b3582d962aae10

Is Pink's sis a reference to pinkshift? pinkshift=paulina btw
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:31 PM
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****ty 50 player server replaced by ****tier 64-player server

srsly, wat teh ****

host's gamertag is Sliph01, btw
feel free to add him as a friend and grief him in any way you can think of

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Old 05-20-2010, 04:52 PM
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Sorry but I think people are totally missing the point here. Obviously, the main problem with this server is that it doesn't have giant planes.
Therefore, it fails at completely ruining the feel of the game in my opinion.

(Please don't make them giant, I would then have to play there and I would then have to be ashamed. Oh so joyfully ashamed... *drools*)
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Old 05-20-2010, 07:59 PM
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Sorry but I think people are totally missing the point here. Obviously, the main problem with this server is that it doesn't have giant planes.
Therefore, it fails at completely ruining the feel of the game in my opinion.

(Please don't make them giant, I would then have to play there and I would then have to be ashamed. Oh so joyfully ashamed... *drools*)
yea the little planes make my head hurt tbh
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Old 05-20-2010, 08:33 PM
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Well there is now 4 servers with 64 slots in them...

LOL!! 64 - 21/64 - 1BD
Live To Cruise #1 [64 players] - 64/64 - TBD
Sliph's 64 - 57/64 - BALL
Noob's server - 36/64 - 1DM

I'm starting to hate that button :\
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:52 PM
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Last night at what is usually a peak hour, the football server was full but we could barely get together 6 for ladder or official ball.

Some of these "noobs" are actually really good but they will never be discovered, invited to clans, added to friendlist networks etc if they don't play on the "good servers." The 20+ servers are killing the opportunities of the influx.
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Old 05-21-2010, 02:51 AM
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mac users eh
always wanted to destroy a bunch of vegetarians at alt

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Old 05-21-2010, 11:07 PM
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^^^ Nice I went 134 Kills and 4 deaths before the server quit for no reason Heart breaking.
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Old 05-21-2010, 11:36 PM
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and what is This ratio for? It's a self-lie. If you could manage similar ratio in a normal game you wouldn't be that upset. Although ratios don't matter...100-0 in a tough ladder game, after which your team is winning....well it's something at least.

But since you can't, why on earth are you sad about loosing a possibility of getting a fake-nice-ratio?
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:23 AM
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It's not so much that I care about ppl playing on a huge server. It's that you can level up so easily doing it (for the good players), and you don't learn how to play what lam and karl intended as the "core" of Altitude...balanced, 5v5-7v7 games.

As tyr pointed out, when eth, him, and myself were racing to ace 10, we did much of it on phong's 10v10 server. However, if you recall roughly half the server was filled with some of the best killing players in the game.

We couldn't bomb spam over the top middle of tbd_lost city and get 90 kills a game. We actually had to aim.

The issue with these big servers is that you can get so much XP with out a) doing anything impressive and b) learning how to play.

I would have no issue with these large servers existing if you did not receive XP in them (or severe reduction, like 10% of normal). Then you can truly have your "fun," as many claim that is why they play these servers. More likely, nobody will use them because they can't get 30 levels a game.
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Old 05-22-2010, 01:48 AM
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The issue with these big servers is that you can get so much XP with out a) doing anything impressive and b) learning how to play.

I would have no issue with these large servers existing if you did not receive XP in them (or severe reduction, like 10% of normal). Then you can truly have your "fun," as many claim that is why they play these servers. More likely, nobody will use them because they can't get 30 levels a game.
The XP reduction is pretty intense. I don't remember the numbers exactly, but I think it took me somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 kills and 40 assists to get from level 1 to level 4.
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Old 05-22-2010, 08:03 AM
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who cares about xp.
The actual problem is that it draws all the players to this gigantic server which makes it hard to actually get good games going. Plus people improve at a pitiful rate when all they do is play on bouncy 50 player ball servers.

remember back in the days when official 1 was where all the best people played and you would have a good chance of getting a fun game going? Now even good players are all over the place with ball and what not.
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Old 05-22-2010, 11:24 AM
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but I think it took me somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 kills and 40 assists to get from level 1 to level 4.
so it took you about 2 minutes to go through 3 levels.
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:58 PM
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and what is This ratio for? It's a self-lie. If you could manage similar ratio in a normal game you wouldn't be that upset. Although ratios don't matter...100-0 in a tough ladder game, after which your team is winning....well it's something at least.

But since you can't, why on earth are you sad about loosing a possibility of getting a fake-nice-ratio?
I've gone 50-0 in a normal game, bark up another tree. I've never played ladder, I can't commit to games with my work schedule, sometimes I have to leave with next to no warning, that's the same reason I never joined a league/clan.

I have a reputation as a ratio whore, but I also score a lot of goals and pass like it's my job. My theory, a dead plane can't score and you have a tactical advantage with fewer opponents.
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Old 05-24-2010, 05:09 AM
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Aussies are definitely enjoying the influx of players.
We had about four 14/14 servers with less than 100 ping going on saturday.

14players is decent. We haven't had any 50 player servers yet thankfully.
I joined one, and tried to show how the game is to be played to 13 other level 10 or so players. lol.

Ended up convincing a couple of em to buy the game after showing that:
1) TBD isn't just luck
2) Ball isn't just luck
3) FFA isn't just luck
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