To Class

[drunkguava]

Originally Posted by classicallad

I think you will find that just like nearly all sports and a whole load of other vitally important things to everyday life, Oxford is a place in Engalnd, and its called the Oxford Concise Dictionary along with the other most famous dictionary - Collins.

Americans have yet to invent or design anything fundamentally useful to everyday life, Except perhaps if you enjoy corndogs or oreos.... Yuk imo.

Not a dig at Americans but you guys are a fairly new race and hold very little history compared to other countries.

Oh wait i got it,

The most useful thing America has contributed is....Altitude!

Props to Lam & Karl, (im assuming your American? ^^)

so uh maybe this is another useless thread, but this post bothers me and i feel like writing about it.
First of all, if you want to say something negative about Americans, saying that we "have yet to invent or design anything fundamentally useful to everyday life" is probably the wrong way to go...

as jrath eloquently pointed out:
Yep, you're right, the lightning rod, bifocals, refrigeration, doorbell, combine harvester, revolver, can opener, escalator, solar cell, electric fan, machine gun, AC motor, smoke detector, jackhammer, zipper, tractor, AIR CONDITIONING, Airplane, windshield wipers, automatic transmission, traffic light, water skiing, power steering, sunglasses, electric guitar, FM radio, and deodorant aren't important or useful at all. (Thats just up to 1940)

Inventing is not really a problem for Americans, even in our short history.

This talk about history definitely bothered me too. Now I'm not blind. I dont think that the history of the USA is as long or colorful as England's, but if you compare yourself to the cultures of India, China, and Mesopotamia, you really don't have much history either. In fact much of your history actually consists of trying to enslave, steal from, rape, and convert people in those regions. So when you look down your nose at Americans for being newbs to the world, don't forget to take a look at yourself first.


Finally, your post was sparked because elixir posted a definition from the "New Oxford American Dictionary." It may surprise you to learn that there is an actual dictionary, "based on a corpus linguistics analysis of Oxford's 200 million word database of contemporary American English." And oddly enough, they don't call it the Oxford Concise Dictionary.

[Jrathje]

Good post. I don't know why Class wants to be such an English Supremacist...

[elxir]

they just mad we styled on them in 1776

[Jrathje]

Originally Posted by elxir

they just mad we styled on them in 1776

You being class.

[Evan20000]

We also had the first functional nukes. Oh...wait... you meant good things we made. *Walks out of thread*

[classicallad]

Originally Posted by drunkguava

so uh maybe this is another useless thread, but this post bothers me and i feel like writing about it.
First of all, if you want to say something negative about Americans, saying that we "have yet to invent or design anything fundamentally useful to everyday life" is probably the wrong way to go...

as jrath eloquently pointed out:
Yep, you're right, the lightning rod, bifocals, refrigeration, doorbell, combine harvester, revolver, can opener, escalator, solar cell, electric fan, machine gun, AC motor, smoke detector, jackhammer, zipper, tractor, AIR CONDITIONING, Airplane, windshield wipers, automatic transmission, traffic light, water skiing, power steering, sunglasses, electric guitar, FM radio, and deodorant aren't important or useful at all. (Thats just up to 1940)

Inventing is not really a problem for Americans, even in our short history.

This talk about history definitely bothered me too. Now I'm not blind. I dont think that the history of the USA is as long or colorful as England's, but if you compare yourself to the cultures of India, China, and Mesopotamia, you really don't have much history either. In fact much of your history actually consists of trying to enslave, steal from, rape, and convert people in those regions. So when you look down your nose at Americans for being newbs to the world, don't forget to take a look at yourself first.


Finally, your post was sparked because elixir posted a definition from the "New Oxford American Dictionary." It may surprise you to learn that there is an actual dictionary, "based on a corpus linguistics analysis of Oxford's 200 million word database of contemporary American English." And oddly enough, they don't call it the Oxford Concise Dictionary.

I literally spat my coffee out when i read this. just rofl. That is that saddest thing i have ever heard, American-English.

Please don't get me wrong, i'm well aware that my post was uber- provocative and slightly offish but i couldn't help myself ^^

I have American family ( half related ), so first hand experience also.

Can't wait to visit your country though, i certainly won't be vocalising these things then :P

[classicallad]

Also, just to be pedantic guys,

The guitar is considered a European-invented instrument that first appeared during the medievel period. The form of the modern classical guitar is credited to Spanish guitar maker Antonio Torres circa 1850. Torres increased the size of the guitar body, altered its proportions, and invented the "fan" top bracing pattern. Antonio Torres' design greatly improved the volume, tone, and projection of the instrument, and has remained essentially unchanged.

Basically speaking Americans are all immigrants from Britain, Holland, Spain, the whole of Europe really, killing all the natives and staying there.

All the culture and roots America has is borrowed from elsewhere ^^

[classicallad]

Also, i have one myself (being a Zippo) they are a great invention, read below and you will see that the Zippo or then 'Zipper' was an Austrian design.

George G. Blaisdell founded Zippo Manufacturing Company in 1932, and produced the first Zippo lighter in early 1933, being inspired by an Austrian cigarette lighter of similar design. It got its name because Blaisdell liked the sound of the word "zipper" and "zippo" sounded more modern. On March 3, 1936, patent was granted for the Zippo lighter.[2]

[classicallad]

This one made me giggle,

On December 10, 1868, the first traffic lights were installed outside the British Houses of Parliament in London, by the railway engineer J. P. Knight. They resembled railway signals of the time, with semaphore arms and red and green gas lamps for night use. The gas lantern was turned with a lever at its base so that the appropriate light faced traffic. Unfortunately, it exploded on 2 January 1869, injuring[3] or killing[4] the policeman who was operating it.

[classicallad]

<reserved for further cementing my arrogance>

[banana]

lol who cares, we all know they are descendants of us Europeans, just like Australians. We're forgetting the real enemy here: the [insert other culture here]. Damn them and their funny clothing.

[Jrathje]

Originally Posted by classicallad

This one made me giggle,

On December 10, 1868, the first traffic lights were installed outside the British Houses of Parliament in London, by the railway engineer J. P. Knight. They resembled railway signals of the time, with semaphore arms and red and green gas lamps for night use. The gas lantern was turned with a lever at its base so that the appropriate light faced traffic. Unfortunately, it exploded on 2 January 1869, injuring[3] or killing[4] the policeman who was operating it.

Regarding the guitar, I said ELECTRIC guitar. About the zipper, I said ZIPPER not Zippo. As in, "when I need to piss I unZIP(er) my pants".

About the traffic light, I was speaking of the AUTOMATIC traffic light. Your ****y english one had to be changed with a lever.

[classicallad]

Originally Posted by Jrathje

Regarding the guitar, I said ELECTRIC guitar. About the zipper, I said ZIPPER not Zippo. As in, "when I need to piss I unZIP(er) my pants".

About the traffic light, I was speaking of the AUTOMATIC traffic light. Your ****y english one had to be changed with a lever.

Nice try jrathje, still not convincing me :P

[[Y]]

Originally Posted by classicallad

Basically speaking Americans are all immigrants from Britain, Holland, Spain, the whole of Europe really, killing all the natives and staying there.

Basically speaking Europeans are all immigrants from Africa really, killing all the native Neanderthals staying there.

350 more pages of Guns, Germs, and Steel to go.
FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUFUUFUFUFF >_>

[mled]

Originally Posted by drunkguava

Yep, you're right, the lightning rod, bifocals, refrigeration, doorbell, combine harvester, revolver, can opener, escalator, solar cell, electric fan, machine gun, AC motor, smoke detector, jackhammer, zipper, tractor, AIR CONDITIONING, Airplane, windshield wipers, automatic transmission, traffic light, water skiing, power steering, sunglasses, electric guitar, FM radio, and deodorant aren't important or useful at all. (Thats just up to 1940)

Inventing is not really a problem for Americans, even in our short history.

BTW its not just about length of the cultures history that goes into play here, theres also the fact of population. Americans population even at that time was quite large. I would like to turn your attention to Croatia, population of about one large american city. Inventions: Mechanical pen, tie, vegeta, parachute, rail-car brake, detergent, and Nikola Tesla lolz

[Corvus Crypt]

Think you're all so cool eh?
Well, we Canadians invented THE TELEPHONE, INSULIN, and, most importantly, THE ZAMBONI

[MintzMachete]

Simply Enough I will quote one of the greatest movies of all time.

AMERICA! **** YA!

Who else could save the world from Durkadurkastan

Or Kim Jung-Il

team AMERICA

Oh and we pwned u in 1776 (Nuf said)

haha i was jking, and don't be offended, just look up team america world police

Oh and I <3 England, and the Isles, got some real good golf and Indian Food over there.

[Danielle]

We love you to, mintz <3

[MintzMachete]

I know <3. So many Jews in england. Well all 3 of them.

[Radium]

Guava you forgot to add maybe the most significant inventions, Teddy bears and bubble wrap.

[Stormich]

Until Americans invent something useful like the vuvuzela they don't deserve to be on the world map.

[Bukem]

I'd like to take this time to say lol america.

[Ajuk999]

We might as well talk about achievements too!

Neil Armstrong - First man on the moon

Amelia Earhart - First woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean

U.S. Constitution - We have the longest lasting constitution

[classicallad]

Originally Posted by Ajuk999

We might as well talk about achievements too!

Neil Armstrong - First man on the moon

Amelia Earhart - First woman to fly solo across the Atlantic Ocean

U.S. Constitution - We have the longest lasting constitution

The whole First man on the moon thing is totally debatable btw but w/e

[classicallad]

Originally Posted by Evan20000

We also had the first functional nukes. Oh...wait... you meant good things we made. *Walks out of thread*

<3 Sins Roflchars

[hurripilot]

As Lord Hurricane, First Earl of the Water Cooler, I'd like to say:


Guys, c'mon. When I decreed "writing in pretty colors and swapping corndog recipes is all that should be done on these forums", I meant "writing in pretty colors and swapping corndog recipes is all that should be done on these forums"

Really Americans? Are we that easy to troll?

[Ajuk999]

Originally Posted by hurripilot

Are we that easy to troll?

[Pieface]

Class please don't tell me you're one of those conspiracy theorists that believes we faked our landing on the moon at some movie studio in Area 51. >.>

And besides, Oreos are delicious. I'd have taken your argument as legitimate if you hadn't made the oreo statement. After that I accepted you as wrong and just stopped caring ._.

[Goose]

Europe invented CCN (who has the chiseled body of a Greek God, a voice of an Angel, and the charisma of Tom Cruise)



Therefore Europe >>>>>>> America

[drunkguava]

Originally Posted by classicallad

Also, just to be pedantic guys,

The guitar is considered a European-invented instrument that first appeared during the medievel period. The form of the modern classical guitar is credited to Spanish guitar maker Antonio Torres circa 1850. Torres increased the size of the guitar body, altered its proportions, and invented the "fan" top bracing pattern. Antonio Torres' design greatly improved the volume, tone, and projection of the instrument, and has remained essentially unchanged.

Basically speaking Americans are all immigrants from Britain, Holland, Spain, the whole of Europe really, killing all the natives and staying there.

All the culture and roots America has is borrowed from elsewhere ^^

lol at inability to understand english.
zipper != Zippo
electric guitar != guitar
New Oxford American Dictionary != Oxford Concise Dictionary
you dont need another post to cement your ignorance.

And while I'm not proud that this country was settled by driving out and killing the natives, that was all funded by your crown as well as a few others from Europe. That blood is as much on your hands as ours.
And being the kid of two immigrants, I can say that I am pretty proud of the fact that our culture is a mix of a bunch from all over the world (and Native American culture for that matter). You barely scratch the surface when you say Britain, Holland, and Spain. Even if you include the rest of Europe you really neglect the influence of cultures from the Middle East, Africa, and Asia (which all have also influenced your storied culture as well). Im not one of those people who believes that America is simply a Christian nation with Christian principles. The very point of this country is the heterogeneity. That's one of our greatest strengths, not something to be belittled.

Anyway, internets being taken too srsly by this guy...

[ModernArcher]

Originally Posted by Goose

Europe invented CCN (who has the chiseled body of a Greek God, a voice of an Angel, and the charisma of Tom Cruise)



Therefore Europe >>>>>>> America

a little bit about CCN: he is 22 yrs old, blonde hair blue eyes, athletic build, great smile/persona....

[Danielle]

Originally Posted by Goose

Europe invented CCN (who has the chiseled body of a Greek God, a voice of an Angel, and the charisma of Tom Cruise)

Therefore Europe >>>>>>> America

^This.
Also, the peen of a horse.

...wait, I mean....nothing about that day can be discussed. For security reasons.

[elxir]

can you maybe stop having creepy cyber sex on a forum frequented by children

you're a "girl," we get it, we don't care. stop posting.

[Evan20000]

I think Elixir needs some "creepy cyber sex" of his own.

[ufo]

Originally Posted by Pieface

Class please don't tell me you're one of those conspiracy theorists that believes we faked our landing on the moon at some movie studio in Area 51. >.>

i am. chars

[mikesol]

Wait wait wait. Since when does Class troll and post tons of logical fallacies? I always thought Class seemed reasonably intelligent. I sincerely hope he doesn't actually believe half of what he's posting here. The ignorance of what is being posted here hurts.

Perhaps his account was hacked by some 12 year old whose parents told him the earth is 6000 years old, the holocaust never happened, and we never managed to land on the moon.

PS: Where is the defining line between when some place can have a culture and when they are simply "borrowing" it from somewhere else. Sounds like someone has been watching too much Glenn Beck imo.

[Evan20000]

I honestly thought Class was bored and made a troll post, to be honest....

[classicallad]

Ok you win, i tried an oreo and my nether regions began to swell o.0 nomnom

edit: oh and i re-read the traffic light post, what kind of a moron invents something meant to promote safety then killing and injuring people :O

[Beagle]

i think i get it

the joke is that everyone keeps saying "we invented this" and "we won this war" and "we styled on them" when in actuality no-one in this thread ever invented anything, fought in any wars, styled on anybody or ever contributed anything to society in any fashion, but still take credit and pride for the accomplishments of people who happen to have been born in the same geographical locality as them

is that the joke please help i'm not good at jokes

[Ajuk999]

Originally Posted by ufo

i am. chars

You have to be kidding...