Challenge/Achievement Suggestions

[Esoteric]

My theory on challenges:

Early challenges (1-25) should exist to act as a tutorial of sorts, they should push the new player towards "proper" play and reward them for doing well. It is not the time to get specific with achievements or demand alternate play styles.

Middle challenges(25-50) should push the player toward variety but not stupidity. You still don't want to reward these players for doing stupid things, particularly in team games. It is, however, a great time to push them towards trying out different planes, perks and roles while still playing "smart."

Late challenges(50-60) should exist as alternate goals for the player besides the central game. They should reward highly unlikely scenarios and give the level 60 player something to work on after reaching level cap whether or not a prestige mode is later added.

Example Setup

Tutorial Challenges: Current setup seems fine. Might want to give an extra boost for completing them all/the last one as encouragement not to skip them.

Basic Challenges: Kill Markings, Assists Kill Streak, Multi Kill. May or may not want to make individual to each plane. May or may not want them them to scale indefinitely. IE: Kill Markings (10,100,1,000,10,000,100,000) Multikill (2,3,4...11, 12...) Even if there were next to no rewards so that people can check their "bests."

TBD Challenges:
Bombs away!(1,5,25) - Drop big bomb on opponent's base.
Support Bombing Run(1,5,25) - Be near ally as they bomb base.
Kill Enemy Bomb Carrier(1,5,25) - Kill enemy with big bomb in TBD.
Defuse/Capture Bomb(1,5,25) - Defuse/Capture enemy bomb powerup.
110% (1,5,25) - Get hit by big bomb near your base.
Kill Turrets (1,5,25) - [Depending on the value of killing enemy turrets. Is it something you want to encourage or not.]
Pack Animal - Spend 75% of your time nearby another plane.[Tough to think of things to encourage teamwork.]

FFA Challenges:
Predatory (25,75,150) - Kill smoking planes. (where another plane gets the assist.)
Greedy (2,3,4) - Pick up at least X powerups per minute of the game.
Spiteful (5,25,50)- You and an opponent kill each other.
Brawler - Get the most deadly award as well as the most deaths.

Loopy:
Tingly (5,25,50) - Kill EMP-ed enemies.
Melty (5,25,50) - Kill acid bomb-ed enemies.
Sneaky (5,25,50) - Kill an opponent while behind them.
Right this way (5,25,50) - An EMP-ed opponent dies on a wall.

Bomber:
Bam! (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with a barrage of grenades.
Look out below. (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with bombs.
Spray and pray. (5,25,50) - Kill enemies by finishing them off with tailgun fire.
Fear my backside. (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with exclusively the flak tailgun.

Explodet:
Juggler(5,25,50) - Kill a stalled-out enemy with a rocket.
One-two punch(5,25,50) - Kill enemies with consecutive mine hits.
Surprise! (5,25,50) - Kill enemies by sending them into walls with remote mines.
Helping Hand (5,25,50) - Guide enemies into walls with thermobaric rockets.

Biplane:
Melee (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with the flak cannon or recoilless rifle.
Sniper (5,25,50) - Kill enemies at range with the machine gun.
Punctuate (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with the howitzer while damaging or killing another.
Who needs engines? (5,25,50) - Kill enemies while you are stalled.

Miranda:
Pulse Laser (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with uncharged shots.
Beam (5,25,50) - Kill enemies by keeping the laser on them for its full duration.
Bounce (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with a bounced shot.
Warp (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with afterburner warp.

Powerup:
Fire and forget (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with missles.
Shield (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with reflected shots.
Wall (5,25,50) - Kill enemies with walls.
Big bomb base block - Use a wall or shield to prevent a big bomb from hitting your base.
Bigger Bomb - Drop a big bomb on an enemy base with 3 gold bars.
MISSile - Draw a missle into the plane that fired it.
Who needs 'em - Win a FFA without using any powerup.

Killer:
Streak-ender (1,5,25) - Kill enemies who have 3 gold bars.
2 for 1 special (1,5,25) - Kill multiple enemies with 1 shot.
Mystery death (1,5,25) - Kill off-screen opponents.
Hot out the gates (1,5,25) - Kill enemies while you are still invincible after spawning.

Ignoble: [Higher level so as not to make fun of new people. Possibly even a small negative exp "reward", heh.]
How to fly? - Get the kamikaze award with 5 or more deaths.
I'm a helper! - Get a 10 assist streak in a free for all.
Ur doin it rong. - Hit an enemy base with the big bomb powerup.

Elite:
Ratio Man - Win Most Deadly with a 4:1 Kill to Death Ratio.
Untouchable - Get 3 gold bars without being damaged.
Immortal - Go a full round without dying.
Hat Trick - Win 3 FFA rounds in a row.
Pure - Win a FFA while playing pure random.
Shield Redux - Kill with a re-reflected shot.
Ultimate Shield - Reflect a big bomb into an opponent's base.
Reverse Maniac - Get Most deadly while forward thrusting for less than 10% of the game time.


But mainly, Early = Instruction, Mid = Variety, Late = Challenge

[Vi*]

Ya, I think some crazy challenges would be great for competition. Players could have accessible profiles which list completed challenges, and players with most challenges completed, highest multikill, highest kill streak, most xp, and such could be listed somewhere.

Eso, I love your naming prowess. You had me at "tingly" and "melty."

[porpus]

Yeah I love those suggestions. Some of the elite ones could provide a lot of entertainment for the old folks in the game.

[Triped]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

Streak-ender (1,5,25) - Kill enemies who have 3 gold bars.

I love it!

[Snowsickle]

Summarizing from an earlier post I made: I'd definitely like to see the generic challenges, just a simple challenge for each level of multikill, streak, etc with an essentially unreachable cap. You may get the 100 in a row challenge but then theres that 150 in a row challenge right around the corner.

Ratio based challenges would be nice: based on the ratio that displays on your stats screen, but only unlockable once you've achieved say, 1000 kills with a plane. If after 1000 biplane kills you're at a 2.0 ratio, you complete the 2.0 ratio challenge. Again, there should be one for 3, 4, 5, etc. Players should always have a goal to work towards here.

On top of that, I'm a huge fan of the crazy challenges myself:

Hang-gliding - Successfully hit an enemy base with a big bomb (30+ EXP) that has been airborne for at least 4 seconds.
Got ur bais - Be responsible for all of the base damage in a TBD match that you win.
Ur doin it rong redux - On a neutral bomb map, kill the enemy bomb carrier, pick up the bomb powerup, and detonate the bomb on their base within a 1 second timeframe. (Thinking runway killing here.)
Ace - Bomb the enemy base while having 3 gold bars and survive for at least 20 seconds afterwards.
Jack Bauer - Kill the enemy bomb carrier and disarm the bomb while the bomb is within a short range of the enemy base.
Blank - Kill an enemy by using two or more wall powerups. [Short timeframe on this one, ideally you drop a wall, pick up another, and position it such that the enemy hits both of them in some way and dies].

I honestly love the way team fortress 2 does their achievements and a number of the ones you suggested seem to be set up similarly. I don't know how much of an issue it really is, but I'd like to see some sort of system implemented to prevent abuse when these kind of achievements are added. Perhaps if they're only acquirable on official servers, or on maps that have been made official. It would make a profile page like Vi suggested much more interesting and valid.

[skywalker]

snowsickle those are some awesome acheievements.

let us all think of more achievements similar to snowsickle's.

[nesnl]

I think it would be cool to have a stat on your stat page that basically tells you who you have killed the most and how many times (maybe top 5) and also who has killed you the most and how many times (also like top 5). Just a simple "Most Killed" and "Most Killed By" or whatever.

This could also be transferred into an all time stat page showing who is #1 on the most people's "Most Killed" and "Most Killed By" lists.

Also might be cool to keep track of the number of teammates you have killed all time.

[DiogenesDog]

great original post, great thread.

btw, I think there's another thread with challenge suggestions somewhere. might be worth a look!

[Blank]

Originally Posted by nesnl

I think it would be cool to have a stat on your stat page that basically tells you who you have killed the most and how many times (maybe top 5) and also who has killed you the most and how many times (also like top 5). Just a simple "Most Killed" and "Most Killed By" or whatever.

This could also be transferred into an all time stat page showing who is #1 on the most people's "Most Killed" and "Most Killed By" lists.

Also might be cool to keep track of the number of teammates you have killed all time.

You might as well make it a top4 of "Most Killed By" since my name is going to appear on everyones list.



Not sure if it was suggested, but it would also be cool if you could track certain stats/achievements per server. So say the Most Deadly record for FFA was 60 kills, and then some guy gets 62 kills... the server would see it and replace that record and say something like "new server record!" or some ****.

[skywalker]

Originally Posted by Blank

Not sure if it was suggested, but it would also be cool if you could track certain stats/achievements per server. So say the Most Deadly record for FFA was 60 kills, and then some guy gets 62 kills... the server would see it and replace that record and say something like "new server record!" or some ****.

seems excessive, in my opinion, to do server records.

[Vi*]

I like the server records idea. It's a nice level in-between a personal record and a best-of-anyone record. Anyone can be cool enough to get one on a little server, but getting one on one of the official servers is a big deal. Especially fun for clan servers.

[benbob724]

dude u guys have thought of some great challenges... im bored with the ones they have cause i got them all and theres nothing left to do. If some of these were implemented into the game it would dramatically increase the replay value... although im not sure how easy these would be to program in... some of them sound pretty involved

[tyr]

Ultimate waller : Place a wall in front of the ennemy bomb carrier not too far from your base (he must hit it).
Long range killer : Kill x people that you don't see on your screen.
Gold digger : Spend at least 50% of the match with at least 1 gold bar.
Weapons of mass destruction specialist : Get at least 4 kills with one big bomb.
Catch that! : Kill the ennemy bomb carrier with a big bomb.

[ryebone]

Originally Posted by tyr

Ultimate waller : Place a wall in front of the ennemy bomb carrier not too far from your base (he must hit it).
Long range killer : Kill x people that you don't see on your screen.
Gold digger : Spend at least 50% of the match with at least 1 gold bar.
Weapons of mass destruction specialist : Get at least 4 kills with one big bomb.
Catch that! : Kill the ennemy bomb carrier with a big bomb.

The last two seem like they would only encourage bombwasting, and thus I am strongly against them. The others are good though.

[Valarauka]

"Accidental Ace": Get to 3 gold bars without any XP from plane kills or bombing runs (i.e. assists and defusals only).
"Almost Ace": Get to 1 or 2 gold bars at least thrice in a match without ever getting all 3.
"Down but not Out": Get 5 kills in a match while your plane is stalled.
"I Am Rubber": Get 5 kills in a match by reflecting enemy shots back onto them with a Shield powerup.
"Suicidal Maniac": Get every single award on the post-match screen, including Most Suicides.
"Living on the Edge": Get damaged to below 10% health and then back to full three times in the same life (either Repair perk or base healing.)
"Hey, that's mine!": On a neutral-bomb map, die as the bomb-carrier, respawn, re-acquire the same bomb from the other team and use it to successfully hit the enemy base.

Also, server records would be a great idea.

[tyr]

Haha. All those are good, but kinda hard to get.
I really like them.