APL 5 Preseason Tournament!

Wok3N^ · #1 03-17-2011, 02:02 AM

Here it is. The preseason tournament! This does not affect the regular season and is mainly for fun. It also tells us if the newer teams will show up.

Sunday, March 20th, 2011

6 PM GMT - 2 PM EST - Core, Woods, Fallout

RD vs 51 - APL 1
DS vs IL - APL 2

6:45 PM GMT - 2:45 PM EST - Heights, Focus, Lostcity

PR vs winner between 8/9 - APL 1
| vs BB - APL 2
L* vs winner between 7/10 - APL 3
fLb vs FRO - APL 4

7:30 PM GMT - 3:30 PM EST - Grotto, Cave, Middleground

Upper Semifinal - APL 2
Lower Semifinal - APL 3

8:15 PM GMT - 4:15 PM EST - Asteroids, Focus, Core, Justice, Heights

Finals - APL 2
3rd place match - APL 3 - can play at this time or after finals if they choose.

All games will be BO3 excluding the finals and the 3rd place match which will be BO5.

Maps will be played in order from left to right. Teams may start with 6 players on a side and sub one player permanently only if a player disconnects. Choose sub timing wisely!

If an admin is not there, report scores in the thread.

If anyone has questions, ask Mikesol, Andy or I.

Tosconi · #2 03-17-2011, 02:20 AM

you put GMT instead of EST in the 2,3,4 round

Wok3N^ · #3 03-17-2011, 02:51 AM

Thanks for letting me know! Silly mistake haha

sunshineduck · #4 03-17-2011, 03:06 AM

well i guess we have a short day sunday

Jrathje · #5 03-17-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sunshineduck

well i guess we have a short day sunday

Going in with an attitude like that it will be.

Radium · #6 03-17-2011, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrathje

Going in with an attitude like that it will be.

maybe he meant that fro was going to beat every team quickly and easily, thus making it a short day

Ribilla · #7 03-17-2011, 04:10 AM

**** the bed, we've got Death Skulls, time to start practising in earnest.

Sean · #8 03-17-2011, 04:18 AM

Prediction time: They will dominate you because you are all so tired from staying up partying all night.

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EDIT: I had no idea DS had an actual team though. I'm astonished.

Ribilla · #9 03-17-2011, 04:23 AM

Stunningly accurate, it's 3.20am and I am rather drunk, I'm trying to down as much water as possible so I am not hung over for my tutor meeting tomorrow morning, I sense it's not going to help much.

sunshineduck · #10 03-17-2011, 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radium

maybe he meant that fro was going to beat every team quickly and easily, thus making it a short day

i actually meant that we'd suffer a crushing defeat to FRO, we being fLb considering i'm currently sporting that tag

SHUT UP JRATH YOU KNOW NOTHING

CCN · #11 03-17-2011, 09:11 AM

It's okay guys, we'll just play 3 bomber.

classicallad · #12 03-17-2011, 09:41 AM

Wait what, SSD is flb now? wtf is going on, guys pick a team and fraking play for them - you clan hoppers make me retch.

Mandrad · #13 03-17-2011, 12:07 PM

I had hope that the number of teams was bigger than this. Not much changes from season to season. Team names change and thats it. If clans had 12 players instead of countless numbers, more clans would came up and APL would be spiced up...

classicallad · #14 03-17-2011, 01:30 PM

I have to say i agree with Mandrad on this, i mean the competitive scene is relatively small and i see a lot of those people a lot of the time.

12 was fine imho. Subs rule is good though.

mikesol · #15 03-17-2011, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandrad

I had hope that the number of teams was bigger than this. Not much changes from season to season. Team names change and thats it. If clans had 12 players instead of countless numbers, more clans would came up and APL would be spiced up...

Clans could only have 12 up until yesterday. Clearly the 12 man cap was doing nothing to add more teams. The thought is that if teams add more players then people might get frustrated with their lack of play time and make a new team.

VeRiTaS · #16 03-17-2011, 02:20 PM

Even if people do leave and make teams from the teams that have 12+members ... there is rarely someone responcible enough to lead the clan... and willing also ...

classicallad · #17 03-17-2011, 03:25 PM

This is also true, as it stands, there doesn't seem to be a wealth of players stepping up to the plate to lead. Lol not like it's brain surgery just there just isn't.

edit: i hope your reverse psychology works mike, i do.

Tosconi · #18 03-17-2011, 03:47 PM

Besides, all the leading incentives get killed by ppl wishing to form 20 man roster clans to play with their eFriends.

PR just has 8 members now, after aya and Matt left.

We're risking to get another team killed by this rule change.

Ps: I'll just hope for the best and that it all works out in the end

xillix'Love Sattan · #19 03-17-2011, 03:50 PM

i have 1 question: (DS) Death Skulls vs IL| Iron Legends APL 2.

stands APL 2 for april 2?

Kuja900 · #20 03-17-2011, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by xillix'Love Sattan

i have 1 question: (DS) Death Skulls vs IL| Iron Legends APL 2.

stands APL 2 for april 2?

APL server 2

Tosconi · #21 03-17-2011, 04:04 PM

to prevent misunderstandings - the server's called Altitude ProLeague #2

trendy11one · #22 03-17-2011, 04:08 PM

Woken, put date pls, this sunday, 20th march.

trendy11one · #23 03-17-2011, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wok3N^

Sunday, March 20th, 2010

Fail.

But ty, i hope this prevent misunderstandings

Wok3N^ · #24 03-17-2011, 05:38 PM

Lol im having an off day :P

sunshineduck · #25 03-18-2011, 12:03 AM

btw, your GMT/EST times are completely off. EST is currently GMT-4, not GMT-5 cuz of daylight savings.

Tosconi · #26 03-18-2011, 12:20 AM

I'm pretty sure, Wok meant Altitude Time (GMT) (when you press Tab), which is totally correct.

sunshineduck · #27 03-18-2011, 12:33 AM

i am aware, but he currently has EST as GMT-5 in the OP, when it's currently at GMT-4. i still don't know if he means to push the EST times 1 hour later or pull the GMT times 1 hour back to make it accurate, so i can't properly notify my team.

Wok3N^ · #28 03-18-2011, 03:04 AM

Oh daylight savings :X sry

Tosconi · #29 03-18-2011, 03:32 AM

seriously, don't make it worse. Just post altitude GMT time, so that everyone knows which exact GMT is actually meant.

or just put British or CET, which would be suitable for 100% of euro players, while asians may orient by EST.

I mean seriously, I'm more than sure, that for europeans GMT is the british time (which is actually not the case but still). The mythic, non-existant GMT-without-daylight-savings time just makes it way more confusing.

Wok3N^ · #30 03-18-2011, 03:52 AM

I am going to do what every APL and SL has done.

Tosconi · #31 03-18-2011, 05:32 AM

right...so why do we have Altitude GMT time again (which was put there specifically for this matter)?

it's always amusing, how american players (which orientate themselves on the EST time) decide that non-existing GMT is more suitable for euro players. Well - it's not.

This problem comes every winter tournaments, making lots of ppl, who don't regularly check up the forums miss their times.

mikesol · #32 03-18-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tosconi

right...so why do we have Altitude GMT time again (which was put there specifically for this matter)?

it's always amusing, how american players (which orientate themselves on the EST time) decide that non-existing GMT is more suitable for euro players. Well - it's not.

This problem comes every winter tournaments, making lots of ppl, who don't regularly check up the forums miss their times.

We use the altitude time because we've repeatedly try to get the right GMT times and everyone bitches about them being wrong if we use one over the other. It was decided that we would just use altitude time since *everyone* can just press tab and see what time it is and do the conversions for themselves.

Tosconi · #33 03-18-2011, 05:47 AM

Mike - that's exactly my point.

After SSD's comment, Wok3n changed the time to the actual (non-Altitude) GMT. And I practically ask to bring it back to Altitude-GMT time, which is equal for all of the players and is very easy to check up.

sunshineduck · #34 03-18-2011, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Tosconi

Mike - that's exactly my point.

After SSD's comment, Wok3n changed the time to the actual (non-Altitude) GMT. And I practically ask to bring it back to Altitude-GMT time, which is equal for all of the players and is very easy to check up.

what?

GMT is the same both ways, i have no idea what you're talking about lol

EDIT: currently, altitude GMT is exactly the same as regular GMT. I'm on the east coast, and it says my local time is GMT-4.

Tosconi · #35 03-18-2011, 06:25 AM

Ok, I finally got it - you got daylight savings last week. So the next 2 weeks (till march 27) the time's different to the normal difference +6 CET --> and is now +5 CET.

finally.

sunshineduck · #36 03-18-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tosconi

Ok, I finally got it - you got daylight savings last week. So the next 2 weeks (till march 27) the time's different to the normal difference +6 CET --> and is now +5 CET.

finally.

that's kind of exactly what i said in this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunshineduck

btw, your GMT/EST times are completely off. EST is currently GMT-4, not GMT-5 cuz of daylight savings.

o_O

Tosconi · #37 03-18-2011, 07:31 AM

yep my bad.

Daylight savings come here 2 weeks later. I completely forgot it is usually introduced earlier in the US (so I though you're talking about daylight savings as a policy and not as a done fact).

PS: GMT being -4 during summer is the exact thing I hate about this time, being accepted as common. 48 weeks a year (out of 52) - CET is +6 to EST, I often go to the US and these 6 hours is a common difference to me. GMT being equal to London time in winter is also **** up in summer. It is way more intuitive to count time - to your own actual (real) time, than to some practically non-existing construction, imo.

as said in the other topic: the problem is - you don't have to think about, what difference is it to GMT (while GMT being differentiated by daylight savings), you just stick to a real EST time. Then why not do the same for Euro players - stick to a real time (British, CET whatsoever).

the argument "you can always press Tab" - is great. But - looking at the actual clock is easier.

xillix'Love Sattan · #38 03-19-2011, 07:47 AM

So the EST time is the europe time?

Tosconi · #39 03-19-2011, 08:05 AM

no EST - is Eastern Standard Time (US East Coast).

classicallad · #40 03-20-2011, 02:28 PM

It looks like RD's match with 51 will be at 7pm GMT as 2 of my players cant make 6 as their ride home will be delayed, i;ll update when i have confirmation from 51.