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04-03-2011, 04:42 AM
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Altitude Mafia 8.0
INTRODUCTION:
Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all the Mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because Mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. During the night, Mafia will collectively decide on who to kill, and send in their selection to me. Any player with a special role can PM me their actions during the night phase. If the Mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win the game. The goal for the townspeople is to lynch all the members of the Mafia by whatever analysis, teamwork, or guile they have. List of Players: 1. Duck Duck Pwn 2. Sunshineduck 3. Woken 4. Andy 5. GGQ 6. Smushface 7. FU Last edited by Kennedy; 04-03-2011 at 05:06 AM. 
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#2
04-03-2011, 04:51 AM
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Rules:
Voting: 1) You must post your vote in this thread. Do not PM it to me or tell me in-game. 2) You must clearly declare your vote. (ie: 'I vote for X') 3) You cannot auto-change your vote to the losing or winning bandwagon. 4) You cannot vote for yourself, anyone dead, or anyone outside the game. 5) In the event of a tie, nobody is lynched. 6) You may vote not to lynch. This is done in the same manner as voting for a person. Cheating: 1) Posting after death: If you die in the game you are permitted 1 goodbye post, but it must not contain any information relating to the game. 2) Betraying your role and ruining the game for everyone else by doing something like posting the Mafia member list in the thread when you were chosen as Mafia. 3) Logging on to someone else's account / checking their PM's / looking over someone's shoulder to get their role. 4) Posting screenshots of your inbox. This is not a photoshop competition. 5) Posting any PM you receive from me. 6) Sending messages through a third party not playing the game. 7) You must not request, submit, or share any non-verbal, non-game-themed proof of role with anyone for any reason. If you violate the spirit of this rule, you will be mod-killed. If you think somebody violated the spirit of this rule, report it immediately. I'd prefer it if the game were not discussed outside of this thread. I don't think that's entirely unrealistic to expect from people who voluntarily signed up to play. If you are asked your role by somebody else, tell me about it and do not respond. If you must respond, claim a role that is not in the game. For example, cashew. Everybody's role is cashew. Examples of cheating: "What time did you receive your PM?" (exploits limitations of forum technology, not verbal game-themed communication) "Forward me your role PM to prove your role." "Send me a screenshot to prove your role." *Any screenshot or record of digital communication. For example: taking a screenshot of an Altitude in-game chat in which person X claimed his role was Y and sending it to Z. You can use normal, everyday language to relay this information "Hey Z, X told me he is Y on Altitude yesterday" but you can't show a screenshot or copy-paste an Altitude log entry (with annoying-to-manipulate formatting that lends "authenticity"), to "prove" it. Modkills: You must post at least once every two (real world) days. You will be replaced after 48 hours of inactivity. In addition, I reserve the right to modkill anyone I suspect of cheating and anyone modkilled in this game will be permabanned from future games I may host. Please keep that in mind. Misc: 1. You may claim your role at any time, but it must be out loud. 2. Mafia may only communicate about during the night phase. I will create a google document which mafia can edit to talk to one another. Please don't try to bypass this rule. 3. Anybody may lie about their role, but game throwing will not be permitted. 4. No edits! No one should edit any post, even for grammar or spelling errors. If something in your post isn't clear, just double or even triple post. This will prevent issues of people arguing about what was or wasn't in an edited post. 5. This game will start at night. Please respond to my PM with your night action, if you have one. Credits- The previous organizers of Altitude Mafia provided a lot of copy-pasteable content. The roles are from scumhunt.com and epicmafia.com. WIN CONDITIONS: Town: Wins if all Mafia are eliminated. Mafia: Wins if the number of mafia players is greater than or equal to the number of town players. The Mafia may attempt to kill one and only one person every night. They may also choose not to kill on any given night. Last edited by Kennedy; 04-03-2011 at 05:09 AM.
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#3
04-03-2011, 04:55 AM
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Roles:
All roles will be randomly assigned Town: Villager: Your goal is to bring the Mafia to justice! You have no special powers, only the ability to vote during the day. Tracker: A suspicious, observant individual, you are trained in the art of stealthily following other people. You may follow one person every night, and determine who all of the people that they visit are. Doctor: You have the ability to protect a player of your choice from a night hit. You cannot protect yourself. You will not be notified if you successfully save someone. Mortician: You operate the town morgue, and have the inexplicable ability to determine a person's occupation simply by examining their corpse. Mafia Roles: Stalker: You are a creeper. You kill people at night, and can additionally choose to visit another player to determine their occupation. You may visit the same person you kill on the same night. You may not visit any of your mafia partners. This is a semi-closed setup, meaning that there are multiple setups that could be chosen. I will randomly select one. Additionally, this is a no reveal setup, meaning that I will not reveal the role of players upon their deaths. This game starts at night. The four possible setups are: 3 Villagers, 0 Morticians, 1 Tracker, 1 Doctor, 2 Stalkers 2 Villagers, 1 Mortician, 1 Tracker, 1 Doctor, 2 Stalkers 1 Villager, 2 Morticians, 1 Tracker, 1 Doctor, 2 Stalkers 0 Villagers, 3 Morticians, 1 Tracker, 1 Doctor, 2 Stalkers Last edited by Kennedy; 04-03-2011 at 05:43 AM.
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#5
04-05-2011, 01:07 AM
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It's almost 48 hours and no one has posted; guess that everyone else is just going to have to be godkilled...
gg mafia, you almost made it past night 1
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#10
04-05-2011, 04:31 PM
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hey guys I'm kind of embarassed to admit this but I accidentally didn't save the notepad document with role assignments. I remember all the PRs but could the blues/morticians PM me telling me which you are? I know how many of each I assigned so don't try any funny stuff.
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#11
04-05-2011, 04:41 PM
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gee that's real unfortunate
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#12
04-05-2011, 05:50 PM
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Ok guys, once again, activity is the name of the game. If you are town, do not lurk. You don't need to be logging in at all hours of the day, but when you have time, catch up and post something. Give us your thoughts about the other players and about what's happening in the game. Forum mafia is all about post analysis, so we need posts from you to be able to analyze you. A lurking townie looks the same as a lurking mafia, and that just makes it harder to win.
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#14
04-05-2011, 10:40 PM
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I think that with this setup, the morticians are going to have to play a pretty pivotal role. Since there's a 50% chance that there is more than 1 mortician in the game, they have to take the gamble and try to keep the town as informed as possible because they have the best expendability : utility ratio.
On a side note, I think that this setup is unwinnable if there are no morticians in the game.
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#16
04-06-2011, 01:35 AM
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Are whispers disabled?
Are morticians allowed to investigate non-graveyard people and get a report if that person dies that night? If a tracker follows a mortician who investigates a dead guy, would the tracker get a report saying [insert name here] visited [dead guy]? Last edited by Kennedy; 04-06-2011 at 04:42 PM.
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#18
04-06-2011, 07:56 AM
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I'm gonna have to say that at least one mortician is going to need to claim because right now we're going into this blind. While I understand that post analysis is more important than roles, as of right now, we have nothing else to go on.
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#19
04-06-2011, 12:13 PM
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No, morticians should not claim now. We cannot give mafia easy targets. Morts are vital to this setup. They should claim tomorrow after finding out what sunshineduck was. I suggest that we no lynch as it is MYLO - epicmafia term for if we miss lynch, we lose. This is because there are 4 town and 2 mafia. If we lynch a town and then mafia kills a town, it becomes 2v2 which is a loss.
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#20
04-06-2011, 02:31 PM
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Tracker should probably claim for doc protection imo. 1/5 that doc is dead, and mafia probably stalked who they killed, so it kinda blows if that happened.
Let's do some math. Let's assume tracker is alive, yeah? Regardless of what non-tracker died last night, mafia has a 1/2 chance of killing tracker tonight anyway; (1/4 x 1) + (3/4 x 1/3) = 1/2. Or, probability of if they stalked the tracker makes that kill 100% and that probability is 1/4, and if they stalked someone else it's a 1/3 chance. And if they didn't stalk ssd, which I think would be retarded, the probability of finding the tracker is 1/2, making the odds (1/2 x 1) + (1/2 x 1/2) = 3/4 of killing tracker. But as I mentioned before this number probably doesn't mean anything. So tracker is most likely going to be targeted for a kill tonight, like it or not. I don't like gambling on the off chance the doctor, should they too be alive, guesses correctly. I'll take a 1/5 of doc being dead than a 1/2 of having the tracker die regardless. And we probably have morts to check if ssd was track What I'm not sure of is, should the tracker out an innocent report? It gives us a clear, but it also gives the mafia either a kill target AND tells the mafia who the doctor is 100% (unless on the off chance tracker happens to have tracked the one person that the mafia stalked other than ssd.) I feel tracker should not give an inno here. Should they out a guilty now either though? I feel as though they should. It gives us a lynch target (for tomorrow after we wait to see if we get any mort reports) and a possible clear (the person they stalked, if it wasn't ssd) Note to tracker: if anyone you tracked visited ssd last night, even if that was their only target, they are mafia. And morticians claiming now is retarded lmao. And finally, a question for Kennedy: Stalkers can stalk who they are killing that night, correct?
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#22
04-06-2011, 04:18 PM
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And yes, no lynching will probably be the best scenario, but I either want to wait and discuss whether tracker should claim or not or keep some time to have them claim. There is the possibility of a guilty changing my mind on how we deal with mylo. I'll explain when/if it happens. Also, tracker and/or people who wish to discuss this publicly, do note that I am saying that you should not out the person you tracked and who they visited UNLESS one or all of the people that they visited are sunshineduck.
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#23
04-06-2011, 04:44 PM
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Last edited by Kennedy; 04-06-2011 at 04:47 PM.
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#24
04-06-2011, 07:16 PM
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Soooooo I went ahead and worked out all the math and probabilities for every possible scenario on a piece of paper. Unless my math is off, the tracker is statistically more likely to survive night 2 by claiming day 1. This, of course, doesn't take into account the possibility of the doctor being pro and figuring out who the tracker is without a claim. I'm leaning towards saying that tracker should claim today, and out a guilty if he has it.
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#26
04-06-2011, 07:31 PM
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#27
04-06-2011, 07:56 PM
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Yea, you're right. I misinterpreted the mortician rule and thought that they would know SSD's role today instead of tomorrow.
I think woken's no lynch d1 idea is the best until we get more information. Tracker has a fairly high chance of getting a confirmed mafia tonight and I think d2 is when he's going to have to claim.
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#28
04-06-2011, 08:12 PM
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#30
04-07-2011, 02:18 AM
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Wok3n, what are your thoughts on a tracker claim vs tracker not claiming?
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#31
04-07-2011, 02:32 AM
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I think that the tracker can choose to claim or choose not to. It is beneficial in both senses. One that the doc knows who to go on but then in another to prevent even the doc from dying at the night phase by the maf narrowing it down one more. Either way, it works.
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#35
04-07-2011, 06:59 AM
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Is anyone going to claim tracker?
I'll post my no vote in around 24 hours from now to give time for a potential tracker claim. Also as a heads-up to people playing, I'm going to be on a Model UN trip starting tomorrow, so I'll be on enough to post consistently, but my posts will most likely not be the wall-o-text that you're used to from me due to actually doing something with my life for once. Legasp
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