Mid player maps

[Karl]

I took old maps and simplified them for mid level players. Please try them out on your mid level friendly servers.

Maps are available for play on:
Official New Players 40+ #1 - US
Official New Players 40+ #2 - US
Official New Players 40+ #3 - US

ball_cavern (modified cave)




ball_gliderpark (modified planepark). The aesthetics aren't as good as the original but I think it still plays well.




ball_meteoroids (modified asteroids). Better than the real asteroids?




ball_powder (modified snow)


Thanks and enjoy.

[Ajuk999]

I find it awesome that you guys are actively trying to cater to different player skill levels.

[TwistedDuck]

good work karl
nice maps

[Flight 666]

I would like to know why "new" and "mid" maps for new players...are only BALL? why not a single map TBD?

[Karl]

Ball is out best game mode. It was designed along w/ the community well after the game came out and fixes most of the issues found in other game modes. This along w/ the massive popularity of ball_football among causal players prompted us to try and design maps that would appeal to casual players that hardcore players could enjoy as well.

Bottom line is Altitude needs more players and consolidating the new player base behind a single starting game mode will create more long term players.

[Jayfourke]

Well, that sucks. TBD is what this game is balanced for, no?

[Flight 666]

Originally Posted by Karl

Ball is out best game mode.

well, sorry man, have to disagree and prolly half of the community, TBD is the soul of your game.

[Ribilla]

Originally Posted by Flight 666

well, sorry man, have to disagree and prolly half of the community, TBD is the soul of your game.

Personally I think TBD is far and away the best game mode, the tactics are so much better and plane comp is far more key.

However, Karlam do what they can to get new players and, by extension, improve the playing experience for all of us. I think that this is probably much easier with ball, since it is a lot easier to play (partially due to the lack of tactics and the 'salmoning' described in the 'playing the lanes' thread).

My only issue is that ball is easier to get bored of (IMO), because the tactics and pushes aren't as clear cut. I feel that ball is best at getting players into the game, but that tbd (were it not basically dead) might help with retaining more. Currently though, there aren't really enough players to fill up enough servers to get both game modes going at every level, so maybe alti will essentially become ball only from now on. Bad news for me, I suck at ball.

[Flight 666]

Originally Posted by Ribilla

Personally I think TBD is far and away the best game mode, the tactics are so much better and plane comp is far more key.

However, Karlam do what they can to get new players and, by extension, improve the playing experience for all of us. I think that this is probably much easier with ball, since it is a lot easier to play (partially due to the lack of tactics and the 'salmoning' described in the 'playing the lanes' thread).

My only issue is that ball is easier to get bored of (IMO), because the tactics and pushes aren't as clear cut. I feel that ball is best at getting players into the game, but that tbd (were it not basically dead) might help with retaining more. Currently though, there aren't really enough players to fill up enough servers to get both game modes going at every level, so maybe alti will essentially become ball only from now on. Bad news for me, I suck at ball.

Yes, Ok my english is bad, i dont know if i got it right but,
karl made ​​to understand that the community chose to ball.
the makes me very sad, many will deny it, but after the summer league, flight 666 was certainly one of the most that contributed to the game TBD even after the creation of the ladder game, organizing my team, never fail to attend a game of APL and helping new teams. made my history in this game.

[TRUEPAiN]

High player maps?

[GGQ]

There's no point in making new and mid level player maps for TBD because new and midlevel players don't play TBD, they all flock to BALL. It's generally only when they've improved at the basics of the game that TBD starts to become more attractive.

[Flight 666]

Originally Posted by GGQ

It's generally only when they've improved at the basics of the game that TBD starts to become more attractive.

well this is not happening at all.

[elxir]

It's not happening because TBD isn't as fun. It's slow, has long spawn times, and the actual "goal" of the mode is only in play for part of the game.

Like think of Call of Duty. Do you know how annoyed I get when I play capture the flag mode, and have to wait like 10 seconds to respawn after every death? I want to be playing the game, not watching the game.

[banana]

Shouldn't the game now be balanced around ball if that is the primary mode then?

[Jayfourke]

^No, cos it really isn't. And if it is, it really shouldn't be.

The unwashed masses that play ball play it because they are for whatever reason unable to play TBD. They should be punished for this, and coerced into playing TBD. Balance the game so that ball becomes more unattractive, if anything. 15-second spawn times would be a nice touch. And a 75% speed reduction while handling the ball.

And knocking TBD spawn time to 2-3 seconds would be nice.

/Yeahright.

[Flight 666]

Originally Posted by elxir

It's not happening because TBD isn't as fun. It's slow, has long spawn times, and the actual "goal" of the mode is only in play for part of the game.

Like think of Call of Duty. Do you know how annoyed I get when I play capture the flag mode, and have to wait like 10 seconds to respawn after every death? I want to be playing the game, not watching the game.

10 secs respawn is part of the fun of TBD.

[elxir]

Obviously for the majority of players, it isn't.

[Flight 666]

Originally Posted by elxir

Obviously for the majority of players, it isn't.

I dont think so.

[Karl]

This thread is being derailed. Please only post thoughts on the maps. Anymore post unrelated to the discussion of these maps will be deleted.

[Flexio]

The spawns and the area behind the spawns on meteroids are really buggin' me. See pic below

I'd also like to the spawns straightened: most ball maps have them either at a serious angle or straight.

Also the team balls are way to close to the spawns. I'd say move them at least 2 lengths farther away.



Cavern and gliderpark look great.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Flexio

The spawns and the area behind the spawns on meteroids are really buggin' me. See pic below

I'd also like to the spawns straightened: most ball maps have them either at a serious angle or straight.

Also the team balls are way to close to the spawns. I'd say move them at least 2 lengths farther away.
Cavern and gliderpark look great.

I agree w/ straightened the spawns and moving the team ball but I'm not sold on clearing out that area. Seems pointless and would just be annoying if the ball got back there. Note that the map is already really tall.

[Flexio]

Originally Posted by Karl

Seems pointless and would just be annoying if the ball got back there. Note that the map is already really tall.

Right now the whole area behind the spawns looked like a bunch of grouped together graphics from the whole map all thrown in there, reminiscent of several co-op maps. I'd suggest just making it look a bit more natural placed. Maybe you could snag the top rocks used for the originial tbd_asteroids wraparound cover? If not you could just clear it out completely, making a cup-like shape for the spawns similar to ball_snow.

[GuadalupeRoth]

I love the last one, it looks really nice. Thanks for sharing!


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[Slender]

Nice backseat moderating.

[leggomyeggo]

Originally Posted by SlenderMan

Nice backseat moderating.

nice backseat moderating, backseat moderator.

[CmdrNoval]

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These two... lol


On topic:

Nice, Karl... It would be great to draw some footballers into more competitive maps...

[Butts]

Great work!

[Neo]

That's a nice effort.


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