Game recording

JimladSeraph · #1 12-03-2011, 10:04 PM

Can we please get some sort of facility to record full games and play them back later? I figure it would benefit a lot of players and we'd be able to review games after we've played them. At the moment we have to use Fraps which is a resource hog, uses a ton of HD space, and there's no way to change view mid-game. Since the game information is already being encoded for sending/receiving over network anyway, wouldn't it be relatively easy to just record the data?

wolf'j'max · #2 12-04-2011, 10:30 AM

it's pretty easy.

Demuyt · #3 12-04-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JimladSeraph

At the moment we have to use Fraps which is a resource hog, uses a ton of HD space, and there's no way to change view mid-game. Since the game information is already being encoded for sending/receiving over network anyway, wouldn't it be relatively easy to just record the data?

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Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

it's pretty easy.

He knows about screen recording software, he's saying a threater mode like the one in Black Ops would be pretty neat. In that case it would just record the data the game puts out, (eg: Green loopy flies from x:5642, y:3522 to x:5641,y:3522, health: 55%, shooting yes/no, etc.), and not all that's going on the screen --> easier, less space needed.

wolf'j'max · #4 12-04-2011, 11:34 AM

woops. didn't actually read the whole post ._. sorry.

Ribilla · #5 12-04-2011, 01:04 PM

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woops. didn't actually read the whole post ._. sorry.

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wolf'j'max · #6 12-04-2011, 01:25 PM

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I feel that by showing you that lmgtfy site, I have unleashed an unspeakable evil on the world.

lol, just had to do it, especially because i was on my ipod and i wanted to check if it was possible to do it with that as well.

leggomyeggo · #7 12-04-2011, 04:25 PM

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lol, just had to do it, especially because i was on my ipod and i wanted to check if it was possible to do it with that as well.

**aswel .

JimladSeraph · #8 12-22-2011, 07:30 PM

So... six replies and all that we've established is confirming what I first posted. Great.

Any word on whether this will be possible in the next patch? Is Alti still being actively developed, even?

classicallad · #9 12-22-2011, 08:02 PM

use ishowu and like it. There, i said it.

leggomyeggo · #10 12-23-2011, 12:10 AM

The idea has been reposted multiple times and afaik, the final answer was to just use fraps or another video recorder. There's no real need for it.

Slender · #11 12-23-2011, 07:12 AM

Would be nice if there was a recording system just like Source Recording, implemented on Altitude, using demo files and making playbacks to edit and re-record with better quality.

Just thinking out loud

JimladSeraph · #12 12-23-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by leggomyeggo

The idea has been reposted multiple times and afaik, the final answer was to just use fraps or another video recorder. There's no real need for it.

Yeah but by that argument there's no real need for mouse/joypad control, just use keyboard and deal with it.

The fact is, most players can't use fraps and play comfortably at the same time, and many can't use fraps at all due to disk space/framerate issues. You definitely can't play while recording and later watch the progress of the ball or how other players played etc. Then there's the fact that if you want to record a game with Fraps, you have to pay for it (more than the price of Alti!).

Fraps falls short on so many levels, and as I said, adding basic recording functionality would add a lot for comparatively little effort on the part of the devs (making reasonable assumptions about the way it's coded).

In fact, I can imagine I would probably auto-record every match I ever played so I could go back and see how my play style changed and re-watch some of the best moments. Not to mention analysing matches between good players, would be incredibly useful for learning.

JWhatever · #13 12-23-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JimladSeraph

Yeah but by that argument there's no real need for mouse/joypad control, just use keyboard and deal with it.

The fact is, most players can't use fraps and play comfortably at the same time, and many can't use fraps at all due to disk space/framerate issues. You definitely can't play while recording and later watch the progress of the ball or how other players played etc. Then there's the fact that if you want to record a game with Fraps, you have to pay for it (more than the price of Alti!).

Fraps falls short on so many levels, and as I said, adding basic recording functionality would add a lot for comparatively little effort on the part of the devs (making reasonable assumptions about the way it's coded).

In fact, I can imagine I would probably auto-record every match I ever played so I could go back and see how my play style changed and re-watch some of the best moments. Not to mention analysing matches between good players, would be incredibly useful for learning.

Basicly, you just described Call of Duty Elite for Altitude.

If altitude collected more stats than what it does atm, it could become more appealing for statfreaks. (heat maps, accuracy, everything).
Afaik the logs files don't take all that much space so storing them locally or on some vps shouldn't be an issue. Frozen Synapse has done this pretty well (every game is recorded and can be replayed by anyone, recordings include all of the movement commands etc, they can even be exported to YouTube)

-J

leggomyeggo · #14 12-23-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JimladSeraph

Yeah but by that argument there's no real need for mouse/joypad control, just use keyboard and deal with it.

The fact is, most players can't use fraps and play comfortably at the same time, and many can't use fraps at all due to disk space/framerate issues. You definitely can't play while recording and later watch the progress of the ball or how other players played etc. Then there's the fact that if you want to record a game with Fraps, you have to pay for it (more than the price of Alti!).

Fraps falls short on so many levels, and as I said, adding basic recording functionality would add a lot for comparatively little effort on the part of the devs (making reasonable assumptions about the way it's coded).

In fact, I can imagine I would probably auto-record every match I ever played so I could go back and see how my play style changed and re-watch some of the best moments. Not to mention analysing matches between good players, would be incredibly useful for learning.

Actually, I believe the reason for adding mouse support was to increase the player base, and it worked. I understand why you want a video recorder inside altitude, you don't have to explain that to me. But, it wouldn't improve the game by that much of a margin. There are always going to be those people that want to record everything and watch it multiple times, but they don't come that often. The most recording I've seen of this game has been SL/APL playoffs and very few let's plays.

classicallad · #15 12-23-2011, 09:41 PM

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Actually, I believe the reason for adding mouse support was to increase the player base, and it worked. I understand why you want a video recorder inside altitude, you don't have to explain that to me. But, it wouldn't improve the game by that much of a margin. There are always going to be those people that want to record everything and watch it multiple times, but they don't come that often. The most recording I've seen of this game has been SL/APL playoffs and very few let's plays.

Yup, from the devs point of view, intergrating fraps wouldn't likely seem a profitable venture.

But hey, i hope i'm wrong, sure it'd be coolbeanz.

sunshineduck · #16 12-24-2011, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

it's pretty easy.

wouldn't he have to know what fraps was to google it?

JimladSeraph · #17 12-24-2011, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by leggomyeggo

But, it wouldn't improve the game by that much of a margin. There are always going to be those people that want to record everything and watch it multiple times, but they don't come that often.

I could say the same about joypad support. Either way though, that's still your opinion - I think adding game recording would benefit most, if not all players. Not just a few.

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The most recording I've seen of this game has been SL/APL playoffs and very few let's plays.

Well, thanks for proving my point... recording with Fraps sucks.