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![]() APL 9 Week 5 Sunday 5th May 2013, 2PM EDT/6PM GMT For this tournament we will do a home and away round robin style tournament consisting of each team playing each other team twice: once home and once away. I have created a google spreadsheet seen at the link below: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0E&output=html I originally scheduled 2 games a week please let me know if you would like to change this. Map pool: Round 9:justice,woods, asteroids, core, lost city Round 10:cave, middleground, bowsers, focus, fallout Servers: Top games: APL 1,2,3,4. Bottom games: Ladder servers 1,2 (ask a ladder admin to start you the tournament) If playing in apl or ladder servers, and the server crashes, teams are given 1 min from the time another team gets all their players in the server that were in before. If a sub is needed since another player either can't reconnect or disappears, it does not count as the one sub from the sub rule. Teams may choose to have everyone crash then start, or circle their spawn then start in case of a server crash. If two teams can't come to a consensus, players must crash before starting. Format: Bo3 Round Robin. Top 2 teams will play for championship after regular season in one bo7. Home Team: Chooses server for first two games, and starts veto. Loser of each game chooses next map. All the other rules in the rules thread. |
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Taking the forfeit over BRO as they didn't have 5 this week.
KLF > BRO KLF 2 - 0 FRO Last edited by wolf'j'max; 05-05-2013 at 08:21 PM. |
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ChibiKiwimon = ssd
Greymon = dyke Shellmon = clam Numemon = nade Angelmon = DN Whamon = Apathy Dorbickmon = truepa!N |
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Replacing Evilarsenal with Step on the KLF roster.
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If we're doing forfeits as opposed to scrubbing all games, IL takes the forfeit.
IL > Sammich 2-0 |
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bro forfeits the tourny. GGs to our a-team frothers
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u cant just gain points from a game you lost, especially from your b-team
and that quote states they are removed, not that the games are automatically overturned Last edited by evilarsenal; 05-05-2013 at 11:11 PM. |
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it states that they may be removed from the event, not that they will. just get admins to figure this out.
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That is exactly what we did before back when Evil was running it. We removed the teams and nulled all their games/points.
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no, the games stay, they played for 3 weeks, their games counted... the season was already almost completed, and they knew they would get last place.
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Ahem, FRO was the b-team. I know because the roster included me (:|)
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Let us be given a set of arbitrary real-valued parameters and, as in this case, a set of experimental data. As the tides swell and gather mass, so to speak, one might become entranced by the ideas illustrated by this process. Weaving deftly through the math, we can, for simplicity's sake and the uneducated layclam, specify a particular case where all events of Otter(sub i) consuming the Clam(sub i) occur with probability p. (It is alright to do this because the important factor is not the probability of each team winning over another, but the results of the team's win.) This specific case is the binomial (which itself obviously generalizes to the multinomial - just to be perfectly clear here). Now, as we did before, we see in our experimental data a fault deep as the Marianas (these logical faults are not to be confused with segmentation faults): the results of certain Otters do not appropriately display the sum of their successes. 1 + 1 != 2. Each x(sub i) success realization of the random variable X should add to the corresponding Otter total of success – in other words, the experimental data should increment the associated frequency bin as per common sense. That it does not – there is our problem. But why not? Clearly, some weighting is occurring such that certain experimental successes or failures are being counted as having more or less importance than the others, or even none at all. Wherefore should one randomly weight or ignore events given the clear principles of addition? Even going back to the multinomial case where events occur with different probabilities, the cumulative distribution function still should add to 1 – and it doesn't. The end goal is a cohesive and consistent descriptor of the journey of all mollusks towards the gastrointestinal tracts of our good Ottergod, so it is logical to remain cognizant of some of the underlying bedrock that we compete on - fundamental assumptions, in other words. The forfeits of BRO should, in my opinion, effect the same addition of points whether games were played or not. But if not, I mean, just clam down and keep TBD alive for next year. |
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With that said - when we've dq'd teams for not showing up - all of their games are reverted. Both wins and losses. Edit: I don't get why KLF and FRO don't just play to see who gets in the finals?
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^ bo 5 or 7 to figure out who plays the finals
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i propose we have a literary slam (like a poetry slam but less hipster) bo5
clam has fired the first shot your move meta |
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My thoughts are I am not really sure about any of this as I had not thought to officially write out official tie break rules, and theoretically I don't think FRO deserved to make finals since we basically only had to win one game against KLF and could not do it.
That being said, if SSD and the captains of KLF agree to having a bo5 play in match then I would not mind doing that either, but won't force KLF to do it, since I feel they deserve being there more. |
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So I propose that next week is the game between FRO and KLF bo5 or bo7 then the week after that is finals. Thoughts?
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i don't see how anyone can read this beautiful serve and not rule in our favor
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edit: i do agree with u dn, thats how i would have reasoned in the situation as well but u seem to be a lone breed in ur clan so lets do a bo 7 (?) next week sometime when weve talked to everyone and see when they can Last edited by Ingbo; 05-06-2013 at 01:48 AM. |
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bo7 works for us, see you sunday if IL is willing to postpone?
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why not do both sunday >.>
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2 bo7 matches in one day? God damn, that'll take like 4 hours
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id rather do one now and one later personally
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it obv doesnt matter to you guys since you wont be playing a 2nd set anyway, but FRO would rather 2 separate days too
ed; if IL isnt willing to wait i can maybe do mid-week but saturday would be better |
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rather just do 2 sets if il doesnt wanna postpone to another sunday, too much hastle getting our jarhead warriors to show up on weekdays
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Round 9 - FRO vs Sammich
Round 10 - IL vs Sammich Round 10 - FRO vs KLF Highlights should be done by the end of Wednesday. |
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I personally am fine with waiting another week but unfortunately IL never seems to check the forums
But why does it have to be a bo7? It's basically part of the regular season so why does it have to be as long as the finals? Couldn't you just play a bo3 Sunday and then we can finish apl afterwards? If you're really dead set on doing a bo7 then I would guess IL can field a team the week after. |
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I'd prefer doing a bo5 this week and postponing the finals to the week after.
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its not part of the regular season this is effectively 2nd semi finals.
i mean like i said i dont want to do anything less than bo 5 pref bo 7, we could just start earlier on sunday if everyone wants to do it then? then il can still play at regular time. |
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Why play against FRO at all?
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If you went head to head klf would win 3-2 in games but tied 1-1 in series. Not sure if there should be a play in game or not since rules didnt dictate to this. I don't think a whole new series should be used to determine who plays though, they have played 2ce already and had a whole season, if anything it's sudden death time. Last edited by blln4lyf; 05-06-2013 at 12:46 PM. |
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ye id like that too if i had nothing on the line
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Personally, I think IL has nothing to say about this whatsoever. It is entirely on KLF. There are only two suggestions 1) If KLF wants a play-in match, I believe they should have the stipulations (bo3, bo5, bo7) and would be home team. 2) when to do this: either start early sunday say 1 pm EDT/5pm GMT or do it regular and skip a week for finals. I don't think it would be a problem and normally we skip a week for playoffs/finals anyways so there really should not be a problem with this.
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3) Not playing at all against FRO and playing IL for finals.
I think we should first decide this before talking about bo5 bo7... |
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it's either: FRO: bro should be stricken off the record, klf only played them once and got gifted free points for nothing KLF: that's not strictly stated in the rules lolol. we have the same points now and we beat u so we win the tiebreaker FRO: that's not strictly stated in the rules lolol KLF: ur mom's a prostitute FRO: suck my d slut or one friendly match let's all, euro and yank alike, join hands and sing some ****ing kumbaya, who's with me? Last edited by DICK van DYKE; 05-06-2013 at 02:00 PM. |
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it is not strictly stated in the rules lol. u also only played them once and got gifted free points. its hardly friendly since were basically getting forced into this or u will dq them and get automatic win completely sandbagging us with this **** even tho u had both home team and losing team picks map which let u pick map twice and u still failed to get 1 win.
lets be honest, everyone in here knows klf would beat bro if we played again. |
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wow ur not following the script
we did play them twice dude look at the document if we only go by, u know, actual teams still left in the tourny then we're the winners (hard winners no tiebreaking needed) so how is this not a fair compromise? and if u want to make up ur win vs bro based on expected outcome then we would've sent sammich to the finals on day 1 cuz obv they're the best right i mean honestly, all this info is in clam's post i don't see why we're still arguing |
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lets put it this way, if ud arrange a bo 3 against bro for us we would bet our spots in the finals on it, how is that for expected results?
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i would but goose is dead so you're fighting us instead
RIP BRO 2013-2013 you'll be missed ;_; |
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Same points but:
KLF 1 - 2 FRO FRO 0 - 2 KLF We both played against BRO once. |
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