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Old 08-15-2009, 09:37 AM
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the issue is more like: how are you going to going to limit the pool of applicable voters/votees? we can't possibly say "vote for anyone" because then it'd be hard to come up with a list of people to vote for (and if you don't have a list, then it's possible some voters might forget people they genuinely thought would be in the top 14 had they remembered them). the best way to limit the list, is, of course to limit it just to league players.

and then after, any further limiting can be kinda arbitrary. we sure as hell aren't going to sift through the entire list and include only people that have played 50% of their games or something, that would take forever. and it's not even like maimer has NEVER played in the league--he has.

honestly though, this voting system isn't completely going to be right--i for one have never played against FN (neither has anyone on lobstars) so i wouldn't know whether to vote for any of them or not. however, it seems that gumby has come up with a system, and regardless of how imperfect it might be, we're going to follow it because it's good enough and he's the one running it so he gets to say.
Nobody -

I realize the importance of a list and the fact that it is hard to remember everyone. In my response to Devils below, I have outlined some of the ideas I had as well as some other logical flaws with the idea of this. Also, below, I acknowledged that Gumby is the one in charge and he is welcome to do whatever he pleases. I merely wanted to throw out some ideas and opinions.

As far as the Maimer thing - I am not denying that he has never played in any way. Maimer is probably one of the most experienced players in the game and numerous people have seen him / interacted with him. Just because I haven't doesn't mean that nobody else has. I'm sorry if my original post came across like an attack against Maimer for not playing in more games - it wasn't meant to be like that.

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Quite frankly my dear, I dont give a damn.

... aside from that, (look at the bolded section plz) the idea (best i can tell) is to make two teams of the best players that could, ideally, be made and compete with each other. Were gumby to open this up to all the people who are clearly not interested in the league, it would defeat the entire purpose of this thread (again, assuming im understanding the purpose correctly), as they would most likely laugh at the idea of joining a team because enough people voted for them.
Devils -

*Steals a line from transformers* "I can't tell you how much I'm not your little dear..." (Heh jk - just couldn't pass up an opportunity like that)

First off, my post was meant as an opinion and if you don't care, in the future, please don't waste the time posting a response to it to say such a thing - as that is neither helpful nor polite (not that I envision the internet as being a polite place).

Secondly, I realize what Gumby's intention was, but I wanted to merely point out that Kuja had a good point - there is a flaw in the logic of this team idea. Furthermore, I wanted to try and relieve some tension built up from who is in the top places that I've seen in game and out. Whoever gets first place here in votes is not necessarily the best altitude player. Of course, as I said, this is only my opinion and Gumby is the one who ultimately will decide this.

Third, if I was going to open this up to other players I'd have them write in that they wanted to be included and then allow them in. I would recommend not just having random votes come in for people who aren't even interested (although who says the people who are on teams are necessarily interested in this to begin with?).

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Old 08-15-2009, 10:07 AM
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lets just all make some cookies...

and then eat them
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Old 08-15-2009, 02:47 PM
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It would be ridiculous to expect players who are not in the league to show up to an all-stars match, and rude to put them on the ballot and expect them to. If they wanted to play organized games, I'm quite sure they could find a team that would take them.

Look, we are all learning about democracy!
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Old 08-15-2009, 03:05 PM
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Look, we are all learning about democracy!
Actually, this is a monarchy! You're insolence won't go unpunished!
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Old 08-15-2009, 03:53 PM
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lol at kuja trying to get first
ten characters
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Old 08-15-2009, 05:09 PM
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this is all going to end up in a big cluster**** anyway
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Old 08-15-2009, 05:15 PM
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I feel like you're letting your opinion that Maimer is better than Kuja influence your judgement on this logic. In fact, I feel that by your reactions along with the fact that Kuja received votes on less than 30% of the ballots, that people are taking this more along the lines of popularity rather than on skill (or are voting for team-mates or not really looking at this in a skill view).
I do think that Maimer is a better player than Kuja but the only way this affected the voting at all is on my individual ballot. The rules were clearly outlined in the OP and I haven't amended them to favor Maimer or hurt Kuja. My mention that Kuja received less than 30% of ballots FROM THAT DAY which is how Maimer over took Kuja (in terms of over-all ballots Kuja has received votes on 59.3% of the ballots).

If this were a popularity contest I have no doubt that Kuja would win as he certainly has the most friends on Altitude. It's true that some people are voting based on criteria other than skill but I've been impressed with the honesty that most people have shown on their ballots.

Just as the BCS doesn't necessarily award 1st place to the best team, this vote won't produce a definitive list of "the best Altitude players." There are too many undefinable and unquantifiable variables that make up a good player--is a good bomb runner more valuable than a good dogfighter etc. etc. What I do hope is that this vote allows 14 good players to be recognized by the community and play with people from other teams who they may have never played with before. And I hope it's a good game. With great VODs.

NOW KEEP VOTING DAMNIT
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:37 PM
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Ha, although if anyone's up for even more annoyances next time we could toss in awards like "Best FFAer" and "Best Bomb Carrier" "Best Dogfighter" "Best Defense"...etc.

That said, this vote right here is more work than I'd want to do. Don't sweat the haters Gumby, this is some good stuff.
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Old 08-15-2009, 06:59 PM
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I mean this argument started because Kuja's feelings got hurt. So don't knock the format. Knock him.
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Old 08-15-2009, 07:20 PM
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<.<; I think everyone is getting way too hostile. I was just trying to throw out some suggestions / opinions - not knock everyone or insult what was going on.
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:29 PM
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So yet another "who's the best" thread on the internetz devolves into moar srs bizniss.
So on that note... Why the **** aren't I in the top 5?? I'm always on and playing even if I haven't played every tournament round!!

Kidding of course, we all know the answer to that question...

Oh and if it makes you feel any better, you were number one on my list Kuja <3.
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:27 PM
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Ooh, you know what I'd like to see all the voting's over? Who the top 14 voted the top 14 as. Would be curious to see how different it is.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:20 PM
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Ooh, you know what I'd like to see all the voting's over? Who the top 14 voted the top 14 as. Would be curious to see how different it is.
Ha, yes that would be interesting, though not right for gumby to release that info without permission. It should be done on a voluntary basis. I'll do it when it's all over with.
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Old 08-15-2009, 10:59 PM
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I'll do it when it's all over with.
ASSUMING YOU STAY IN THE TOP 14.

zing.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:06 PM
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To clarify, I meant what the composite of what the top 14 voted for, not their individual voting. 14 seems a big enough that it wouldn't violate anyone's privacy. But then again, who knows.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:33 PM
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Don't worry, I'm not going to release anyone's ballots without permission. When voting is over and done with I'll release the Top 14's Top 14. I too am curious to see if and how it differs from the overall Top 14.
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:37 PM
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Don't worry, I'm not going to release anyone's ballots without permission. When voting is over and done with I'll release the Top 14's Top 14. I too am curious to see if and how it differs from the overall Top 14.
lul it wont have kuja
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:09 AM
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lul it wont have kuja
epic lulz.
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Old 08-16-2009, 05:31 AM
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This is hilarious.

Wow.
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:20 AM
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Fourth Polling Update

A slow day in voting with only three ballots coming in.

The top 14 as of 11:59pm, August 15th are:

T12 matattack -- fLbSS 16 pts, 12 votes
T12 Ballin' Shades -- FN 16pts, 12 votes
T12 BG1 -- fLb 16pts, 12 votes
T10 Monxy Fist -- FN 18pts, 13 votes
T10 Moxie -- L* 18pts, 13 votes
9 Gumby -- L* 19pts, 13 votes
8 tyr -- ACE 21pts, 14 votes
7 Esoteric -- fLb 25pts, 15 votes
6 ZidaneTribal -- ACE 28pts, 20 votes
5 Eth -- fLb 29pts, 16 votes
4 Protest Boy -- L* 29pts, 17 votes
3 Gameguard -- fLb 39pts, 25 votes
2 Kuja900 -- fLb 41pts, 17 votes
1 Maimer -- ACE, 50pts, 23 votes

Positions 15 - 25:
15 EvilArsenal fLb
16 A.R.A.B. ZS
17 GGQ ACE
18 Cloud ACE
19 Diogenesdog L*
20 Devils ZS
21 Stack fLb
22 Scheherezade ZS
23 Charlie L*
24 Smushface L*
25 Texas fLbSS

Keep the votes coming in and good luck to all!

Slow day at the polls with only 3 ballots coming in. Maimer solidified his lead today but with only 28.6% league participation this race is far from over. In positions 10-14 there has been significant tightening in the race with a mere 3 points between 9th and 14th place.

More stats:

If teams were made today:

Team A: Maimer, Gameguard, Eth, Moxie, BG1, Matattack
Team B: Kuja, Protest Boy, ZidaneTribal, Tyr, Gumby, Monxy, Ballin'Shades

Teams with best participation:
L*, 77.8% (7 ballots)
ZS, 62.5% (5 ballots)
fLb, 60.0% (6 ballots)
Overall league participation: 28.6%

Still no votes from BC '09 or PX and a mere 1 vote from $, fLbSS, IT, and JC.

Five teams are represented in the Top 14 (ACE, fLb L*, FN, fLbSS) with fLb having the most Top 14 slots (5, or 35.7%). Following relatively close behind are ACE and L* with 3 a piece (21.4%). fLbSS maintains a tenuous grip on the Top 14 with Matattack in 14th place; both EvilArsenal and A.R.A.B. are within striking distance just 2 points behind.

Remember, voting closes at NOON EST ON MONDAY so get those ballots in!

More updates tomorrow!
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Old 08-17-2009, 05:41 AM
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Fifth Voting Update

Tired so this is short and sweet.

14 BG1 fLb
13 matattack fLbSS
12 Moxie L*
11 Ballin' Shades FN
10 Gumby L*
9 Monxy Fist FN
8 tyr ACE
7 Esoteric fLb
6 Protest Boy L*
5 Eth fLb
4 ZidaneTribal ACE
3 Kuja900 fLb
2 Gameguard fLb
1 Maimer ACE

Polling will be extended until midnight tomorrow (Monday). Please get votes in.
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Old 08-17-2009, 02:59 PM
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Just heard there was a vote going on... Had a MASSIVE weekend, and am still recovering.

Just letting you know i put myself in second, because not receiving a single vote would actually be quite embarrassing. Especially when owning Kuja is like eating breakfast... Easy and satisfying.

Anyhow, maybe I will fair better in next years popularity contest. It's hard getting votes when half your team has abandoned you!

On a serious note, i'm sure it will make for a great game!

Cheers,
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Old 08-17-2009, 04:35 PM
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I haven't received a ballot from you PX|Shorty, make sure you get it in to me today!
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:28 AM
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FINAL TALLY

14 BG1 -- fLb 19 pts, 13 votes
13 matattack -- fLbSS 19 pts, 15 votes
12 Moxie -- L* 20 pts, 15 votes
T10 Ballin' Shades -- FN 21 pts, 15 votes
T10 Gumby -- L* 21 pts, 15 votes
9 Monxy Fist -- FN 23 pts, 17 votes
8 tyr -- ACE 26 pts, 18 votes
7 Esoteric -- fLb 27 pts, 17 votes
6 Protest Boy -- L* 32 pts, 20 votes
5 Eth -- fLb 35 pts, 20 votes
4 ZidaneTribal -- ACE 35 pts, 24 votes
3 Kuja900 -- fLb 52 pts, 20 votes (3rd most Top 3, +5pts)
2 Gameguard -- fLb 65 pts, 29 votes (2nd Most Top 3 + 10 pts, Votes Most Overall + 5 pts)
1 Maimer -- ACE 73 pts, 29 votes (Most Top 3 Votes + 15 pts)

Team A: Maimer, Kuja, Eth, Esoteric, Ballin' Shades, Moxie, BG1
Team B: Gameguard, ZidaneTribal, Protest Boy, Tyr, Monxy Fist, Gumby, Mattatack

Someone can start a new thread to discuss when / how this All-Star game should go down (or I'll do it in the morning)

Congrats to all who made it and thanks to everyone who sent in votes.

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Old 08-18-2009, 06:30 AM
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ep we got bg1 we win
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:50 AM
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I really like the chances of my team here.

If you plan on releasing some of the top14 guys ballots, feel free to release mine, I didn't save it so I actually don't remember exactly what I put in there.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:52 AM
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oops, I forgot to tell more people to vote for me....I guess today is monday lol
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:53 AM
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If everyone shows that'll be a pretty awesome game.
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:05 AM
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let the scheduling nightmare begin! i, personally, am down for whenever. as long as i have like a week's notice
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:07 AM
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im down for whenever as well.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:24 AM
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<---always logged in , anytime
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:37 PM
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this game is already over when the teams were decided
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:54 PM
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Lolz teams are prob at same lvl but team A will win with maimer and kujy

See i didt voted for u kujy but still luv you <3 ^^
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:56 PM
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I'm not really sure what Kuja can bring to team A.
He's probably the worse player in that team.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:33 PM
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<3 my iPhone still camping till sat evening so till after that I'm good
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:23 PM
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I'm not really sure what Kuja can bring to team A.
He's probably the worse player in that team.
I forgot that sentence
Thx tyr ^^
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:18 PM
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<3 my iPhone still camping till sat evening so till after that I'm good
flbss = campers
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Old 08-18-2009, 08:38 PM
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flbss = campers
Mat is busy getting in touch with his inner bear out in the woods.

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Old 08-18-2009, 10:42 PM
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How did you decide which team to put yourself (Gumby) and Ballin' Shades?
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:48 PM
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How did you decide which team to put yourself (Gumby) and Ballin' Shades?
If total points are tied, ties are broken by total votes. In this case, both total points and votes were tied so I went to number of Top 3 votes. Again, this metric was tied (3 a piece) so I should've gone to alphabetical order. Ballin'Shades is on Team A and I'm on Team B. I edited my previous post to reflect this change.
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