Black-listed people?:

Golden Bough · #1 08-24-2009, 07:25 AM

This is the person who i would appreciate not every playing again. And, I am all for freedom of speech and cultural-perspective—but this guy always goes to far: hitler. see for yourself:

DryBone · #2 08-24-2009, 08:56 AM

What is he, thinking he is the real Hitler...
I mean that is really going toooo far

Wonder why he is like that..... great grandson of Hitler? If it was true.... LOL

NomNom · #3 08-24-2009, 09:07 AM

Just a desperate troll looking for attention, mute and move on...

Rechtschaffen · #4 08-24-2009, 09:12 AM

He's not even a very good player, so just keep wasting him until he moves on and leaves.

The best trolls I've ever jousted with were not even playing, just spectating. I managed to help my team blow up base while countering their rubbish insults.

I type fast when I'm angry.

DryBone · #5 08-24-2009, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rechtschaffen

I type fast when I'm angry.

Really????

STACK · #6 08-24-2009, 11:25 AM

Are you guys able to read that? I refuse to move closer to the monitor. Quotes or full sized pics plz?

Beagle · #7 08-24-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by STACK

Are you guys able to read that? I refuse to move closer to the monitor. Quotes or full sized pics plz?

TheGolden[Bough]: what the **** man that name is totally ****ing un PC what the **** are you trying to do jackhole
=AdolfHitler=: Hey, just calm down man, it's just a name
TheGolden[Bough]: HEY DON'T TELL ME TO ****ING CALM DOWN, I AM ****ING CALM
=AdolfHitler=: Dude, wtf
TheGolden[Bough]: THATS IT I'M TELLING THE ALTITUDE FORUMS

Fatknacker · #8 08-24-2009, 12:38 PM

I played a couple of games with him (AH) this weekend, he insulted a few people till some one bit, he then taunted that person relentlessly.
Someone then pointed out the mute function, this was used and AH left promptly, made me smile really

DryBone · #9 08-25-2009, 11:07 AM

More of those AH's insults and
others....

eth · #10 08-25-2009, 01:09 PM

Any specific reason you guys get pissed and then proceed to:

a) actually care (it's the internet)
b) not mute the guy

?

Triped · #11 08-25-2009, 03:46 PM

What if Altitude had a Bayesian system based on what muted and non-muted players say? Set a threshold of, say, 2-3 mutes. Have the Altitude clients record chat and submit to the Nimby server. Then, when a message is similar enough to the messages in the mute database, Altitude pops a "press M to mute %username%."

Perhaps the Bayesian algorithm could weight messages by how muted the player is as well as frequency of the words in the mute database. It might decide that "kill Jews" is 95% likely to be mute-worthy, whereas "**** you" may only be 60% likely to be inappropriate. It should also consider chat history - if a user played for a year before his first mute, the chat leading up to it and following it should be weighted much more heavily than early chat. Same goes for a player who started off poorly but grew up. And of course, the system should probably take an "innocent until proven guilty approach" by giving a lot of credit for using popular words on the non-mute list.

STACK · #12 08-25-2009, 05:04 PM

Ok wtf I just played with this Adolf dude. Son of a bitch is one smooth talker. I mean off the bat I was like nono, cya, leave, don't want to etc. Before you know it we are full blown cybering and I dun even know where the f I am or what's going on. Gawd I feel so used

Screenshots:

as red as black · #13 08-25-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by triped

bayesian algorithm

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Triped · #14 08-25-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by as red as black

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who has a good idea
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AtomikPi · #15 08-25-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by as red as black

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Like you aren't one, ARAB?

(Or said otherwise "no u!!!111oneone")

Beagle · #16 08-26-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Triped

What if Altitude had a Bayesian system based on what muted and non-muted players say? Set a threshold of, say, 2-3 mutes. Have the Altitude clients record chat and submit to the Nimby server. Then, when a message is similar enough to the messages in the mute database, Altitude pops a "press M to mute %username%."

Perhaps the Bayesian algorithm could weight messages by how muted the player is as well as frequency of the words in the mute database. It might decide that "kill Jews" is 95% likely to be mute-worthy, whereas "**** you" may only be 60% likely to be inappropriate. It should also consider chat history - if a user played for a year before his first mute, the chat leading up to it and following it should be weighted much more heavily than early chat. Same goes for a player who started off poorly but grew up. And of course, the system should probably take an "innocent until proven guilty approach" by giving a lot of credit for using popular words on the non-mute list.

You've jumped right into the technical aspect without considering the practicallity.

I'm going to swear like a sailor during my entire post to emphasize my point: If I'm playing with my ****ing friends and we all swear as much as we ****ing like because we're ****ing Australian, I don't want some thunder-***ish message popping up on my screen offering to mute them. First, it's ****-hole annoying, second, it is implying I'm too ****-****ing stupid to mute them myself and I need it done for me.

You need to consider that people from different countries feel differently about swearing; for example, I once got banned for a week off a server by an American admin for saying 'goddamn'. I could say that this is because I didn't consider how different countries felt about what is inappropriate, but honestly, that **** was just ****ing stupid.

A much simpler and more practical idea is simply have a way of pointing out/explaining the mute function to new players when they first load up the game, instead of introducing some over-teched scriptwizardry to do everything for them.

ufo · #17 08-26-2009, 07:40 AM

u got banned for sayin god damn? god damn. on behalf of america i apoloyize

Fatknacker · #18 08-26-2009, 12:44 PM

And the uncensored version:

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Originally Posted by Beagle

I'm going to swear like a sailor during my entire post to emphasize my point:
If I'm playing with my SAILing friends and we all swear as much as we FISHing like because we're POOP DECKing Australians, I don't want some thunder-Fish message popping up on my screen offering to mute them. First, it's PORT-hole annoying, second, it is implying I'm too UNIFORM-WAREing stupid to mute them myself and I need it done for me.

DiogenesDog · #19 08-26-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ufo

u got banned for sayin god damn? god damn. on behalf of america i apoloyize

no, beagle's just a disgusting racist who thinks that all americans are prudish and bad at geography. I'm pretty offended personally.

Beagle · #20 08-26-2009, 04:01 PM

Duh, all Australians are racist, its our national pasttime.

Just like all Americans are prudes who hate sex and anything else fun

EDIT: But seriously, all Australians are racist as hell, and that includes me.

Triped · #21 08-26-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beagle

You've jumped right into the technical aspect without considering the practicallity.

I'm going to swear like a sailor during my entire post to emphasize my point: If I'm playing with my ****ing friends and we all swear as much as we ****ing like because we're ****ing Australian, I don't want some thunder-***ish message popping up on my screen offering to mute them. First, it's ****-hole annoying, second, it is implying I'm too ****-****ing stupid to mute them myself and I need it done for me.

You need to consider that people from different countries feel differently about swearing; for example, I once got banned for a week off a server by an American admin for saying 'goddamn'. I could say that this is because I didn't consider how different countries felt about what is inappropriate, but honestly, that **** was just ****ing stupid.

A much simpler and more practical idea is simply have a way of pointing out/explaining the mute function to new players when they first load up the game, instead of introducing some over-teched scriptwizardry to do everything for them.

Good call. Perhaps it would use a threshold relative to a player's own mutability. So if your messages are .6 muteworthy and the relative threshold is .3, you'd never see it until your friends started saying .9 messages like "kill the Jews." Whereas your friends would trip the warning for me, who would probably rank around .0-.2.

Should also have a desensitization feature for people who don't mute players when presented with the message. So that .3 threshold might expand over time to, say, .6 if I don't do anything.

But it would be most practical to auto-mute, at least temporarily, when these thresholds are exceeded.

Beagle · #22 08-26-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Triped

But it would be most practical to auto-mute, at least temporarily, when these thresholds are exceeded.

Ignoring the fact that you're still taking a very unnecessary solution to a simple problem, why would you want to introduce AUTOMATIC INTERNET CENSORSHIP?

Why can't people pick and choose who they want to mute? Why do we need an algorithim to do it for us? It is totally unnecessary for an action so simple.

Triped · #23 08-26-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Beagle

Ignoring the fact that you're still taking a very unnecessary solution to a simple problem, why would you want to introduce AUTOMATIC INTERNET CENSORSHIP?

Why can't people pick and choose who they want to mute? Why do we need an algorithim to do it for us? It is totally unnecessary for an action so simple.

Well, you might as well ask that about an e-mail spam filter. It's so simple to delete, so why the complicated Bayesian setup. But it works really well, people appreciate not being distracted and most of the offensive stuff is never seen.

But really it's just fun to speculate about new ideas.

Beagle · #24 08-26-2009, 05:56 PM

Oh, if its just speculation then thats fine

Honestly the whole thing would be fine as long as there's an option to turn it completely off.

DevilsAdvocat · #25 08-26-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Beagle

Ignoring the fact that you're still taking a very unnecessary solution to a simple problem, why would you want to introduce AUTOMATIC INTERNET CENSORSHIP?

Why can't people pick and choose who they want to mute? Why do we need an algorithim to do it for us? It is totally unnecessary for an action so simple.

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