Pro Football League (PFL)

[Destro]

The first ever Football only tournament in the history of Altitude!

Hello all. I thought it might be fun to have a football competition similar to Sky League with ball and Altitude Pro League for TBD. I know bunch of players who have been talking about this in Ledow's and other football servers. If we can get approval and enough participants, I say we go for it. If anyone is Interested post here with your support! I would be willing to organize the tournament. We would need at least 6 teams to participate and it would take place in the summer after APL is over. I would really like to see teams organized or rebooted and have fun with this. Again, let me know or reply if you are interested. Thank you! Happy Gaming!


Teams Committed

----Implosion: <i>
----Volare: v
----******s: [-fu]
----Pope: [pope]
----Ball: {ball}
----Epic: .EPIC


Teams Interested

----Mad: (MAD)
----NH


-Destro

Check out this website for more information on PFL!

http://altitudepfl.weebly.com/

[Clam]

Originally Posted by Destro

Hello all. I thought it might be fun to have a football competition similar to Sky League with ball and Altitude Pro League for TBD. I know bunch of players who have been talking about this in Ledow's and other football servers. If we can get approval and enough participants, I say we go for it. If anyone is Interested post here with your support! Happy Gaming!

-Destro

I am completely unable to read this but I find it amusing that you tried to use both comic sans and impact as your font

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[Destro]

Thank you for the feedback Clam! I changed the font and made it easier to read. I dont know how i managed to get to different fonts in there. I am still unsure how to get the picture larger, but it should do fine for now!

[JWhatever]

Your target audience is mostly ledows players who probably have never even heard of the forums.
You should try to get the word out to as many players as possible. Perhaps you should try to get hold of the server owner and ask 'em to add a little advert in the server messages.
Also, post on the ledow steam group.

-J

[Destro]

Originally Posted by JWhatever

Your target audience is mostly ledows players who probably have never even heard of the forums.
You should try to get the word out to as many players as possible. Perhaps you should try to get hold of the server owner and ask 'em to add a little advert in the server messages.
Also, post on the ledow steam group.

-J

Okay cool. I am good friends with Ledow, so i should be able to work something out. Thank you for the advice and spread the word!

[Raisin bran]

Sounds like good fun. Could be a real gateway into competetive alti for much needed new players.

[Destro]

Originally Posted by Raisin bran

Sounds like good fun. Could be a real gateway into competetive alti for much needed new players.

Yea, thanks for the response. I think it could be a good way for new players, but i am also looking for it to be more of a SL and APL type tourney. Many veterans like myself do enjoy a good football game and it can be very tough if played in a real trying fashion. But I definitely agree that new players could get a lot better by getting involved in this!

[Destro]

So far one team has committed to being a part of the PFL tournament. Thank you <i> Implosion for your commitment! Again, if you are part of a team interested in participating, please contact me via PM, or in-game.

[VAN1SH1NG]

If interested you could use my new football map. I'm assuming you probably haven't played on it as it was only up briefly for testing several months ago. It is 1000x better than ball_football.

It will return sometime in April as permanent pub servers and possibly ladder if there is any interest. Since PFL would be after APL, you can check it out when it is back online. I also have some video recordings I could upload from testing the map.

The main differences are:

• Much larger map and view scale adjusted so that more of the map is visible and the game plays slower.
• When killed planes respawn at location of death.
• Limited powerups. No missiles and probably no walls.

There are some experimental changes that have not been finalized:

• Limited plane selection, possibly biplane only to further reduce spam and make it more realistic. The main issue with this is noobs entering the server tend to keep trying to spawn with the same planes before leaving. No one seems to read warning messages telling them only certain planes are allowed.
• Attacking team must shoot from outside box surrounding the goal. Turret fire kills any attacking planes if they enter the box. This is not the best solution as the desired effect is simply that planes are unable to score from outside the box, but should still be able to enter.
• If competitive play each team should have an assigned goalie with other players not able to enter the box. It should also be against the rules to purposely fire at the goalie. There is a health powerup spawn in front of the goal which should keep the goalie alive from stray bullets that hit them.

[Mango777]

I really liked that description of Vanishing's new football map, I think it will be much better than what we have right now. But, since you said it is 1000x bigger than ball_football at the moment, now I'm not that sure.

[Destro]

Originally Posted by VAN1SH1NG

If interested you could use my new football map. I'm assuming you probably haven't played on it as it was only up briefly for testing several months ago. It is 1000x better than ball_football.

It will return sometime in April as permanent pub servers and possibly ladder if there is any interest. Since PFL would be after APL, you can check it out when it is back online. I also have some video recordings I could upload from testing the map.

The main differences are:

• Much larger map and view scale adjusted so that more of the map is visible and the game plays slower.
• When killed planes respawn at location of death.
• Limited powerups. No missiles and probably no walls.

There are some experimental changes that have not been finalized:

• Limited plane selection, possibly biplane only to further reduce spam and make it more realistic. The main issue with this is noobs entering the server tend to keep trying to spawn with the same planes before leaving. No one seems to read warning messages telling them only certain planes are allowed.
• Attacking team must shoot from outside box surrounding the goal. Turret fire kills any attacking planes if they enter the box. This is not the best solution as the desired effect is simply that planes are unable to score from outside the box, but should still be able to enter.
• If competitive play each team should have an assigned goalie with other players not able to enter the box. It should also be against the rules to purposely fire at the goalie. There is a health powerup spawn in front of the goal which should keep the goalie alive from stray bullets that hit them.

I really like this idea. I would love to see some videos and possibly test it out! That sounds like it could make the tournament more interesting and give a new twist to the competition. I really appreciate the involvement and help Vanish.

I would like to have a Ladder server with that if the map works. That way we could hold the tournament there or something where we could have more control than just any ordinary football server. I look forward to seeing the new map.

Thanks again!

[SeDuCTiVe.DuCKy]

Why shields though?

quack quack

[VAN1SH1NG]

I forgot to list one of the most important changes, the goal size is increased significantly. So ideally there is a single designated goalie you are shooting on and you have to try to fake him out (but not kill him).

I will work on getting a video uploaded. People were playing the map the wrong way during the initial testing, but hopefully after it is up people will learn how to play it. Everyone was chasing the ball as they are used to in Altitude.

But with the map being much larger and the play being slower you need to play spread out. In competitive play players should be assigned to be defense or offense at least. Passing among teammates is critical and you no longer need to dump the ball forward except in rare cases where you have no open teammates.

Randa was allowed in the test, but it could easily cheat by warping into the box to shoot closer to the goal before being killed by turrets. Loppy and bomber are too spammy and I'm not sure explodet would work well either. Non HC biplane seems best because they are optimized to kill at close range which is what we need to keep it more realistic.

Originally Posted by SeDuCTiVe.DuCKy

Why shields though?

quack quack

You are asking why are shields on the map? If I remember right I had one or two shields available only to the team on defense. So it is still very limited and you'd have to carry it all the way across a large map to be able to use it on offense.

[Destro]

Gotcha. Well yea, i am liking the idea of the map and the way the game is played. But i am unsure about the plane limitations. I know that alot of people arent going to like that and i am not to fond of it myself. Also, i don't know about the goalie. I feel that could change the gameplay alot, but could be interesting. Good ideas. I will know more once i can see it played and test it out.

[VAN1SH1NG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq1oNWWPJsQ

Another note in case it wasn't clear.. there were no goalie rules during the testing. So it was common for multiple goalies to be in the box or none.

This map is supposed to be based on only short range kills (checking) and reduction of all the spam that makes most of the competitive players hate ball_football.

If this is put on ladder the planes will almost certainly be limited and probably only to non hc biplane. I'm not sure about pub. I'd be open to making all planes available because for some reason it confuses new players too much. The problem is I can't ever allow EMP loopy if turrets are used to restrict where you can fly. And EMP loopy is usually what the new players are trying to use.

The only other option to restrict flight in the box is to constantly tell the server to output plane locations. This may put a lot more strain on the server and there would be some lag in speccing players who go where they are not supposed to go. I guess I could test this out but really don't see it working.

[Destro]

Gotcha. Well i say go ahead with whatever you are going to do. Once you get the server up and running. We can talk more about it. I like the way that video looked though. Good map on there and it good be lots of fun. Good work, and keep in touch with me about it all. I would love some help running the PFL tournament if you would be willing to help. Like setting up bracket and making sure rules are clear. Stuff like that. Let me know!!!

[Destro]

My personal team Volare has joined the upcoming tournament. After speaking with the leader, Demvrrage, we thought it would be a great idea to get involved and participate. Stay tuned for more updates!

[elusive_one]

While I would love for Van's new football to have a ladder, I think we should stick with standard ball_football that we all know, and new players love.

[Destro]

Originally Posted by elusive_one

While I would love for Van's new football to have a ladder, I think we should stick with standard ball_football that we all know, and new players love.

Gotcha. Well I will take that into consideration. Maybe i should put up a poll???

[MoxyCrimefighter]

Is this a joke?

[wolf'j'max]

Originally Posted by MoxyCrimefighter

Is this a joke?

Is it a crime for people to like a certain map? Them wanting to turn it into a league and play it seriously is actually rather positive compared to the Ledow server spam.

Keep it up and hopefully you'll produce some very good competition!

[Fluffy]

Originally Posted by wolf'j'max

Is it a crime for people to like a certain map? Them wanting to turn it into a league and play it seriously is actually rather positive compared to the Ledow server spam.

Keep it up and hopefully you'll produce some very good competition!

Sorry about that, moxy doesnt know how to quote cause he is a dumby. He was referring to the fact that <i> is listed in the roster, not the actual league - <i> wern't aware of this.

[elusive_one]

Lol, thanks fluffy. I've pretty much completely stopped playing football, but I'd actually like to see what it's like to play it with good teams. Vans Idea would be good for a ladder, but I'd like to see plain football. I think I'd have fun (and get incredibly frustrated!).

[VAN1SH1NG]

To clarify I do not really believe my football map will be played on ladder. It will run on pub servers and only be on ladder if it appears there is enough interest. I might have to cut down the map and team sizes for it to get any play on ladder.

[Destro]

I updated the original post with a few teams that have expressed interest in the tournament, but have not officially committed via team leader. I will continue to update and monitor the thread. Again, make sure to contact me in game as v9. Destro {T} if you have any questions/interest of joining competition. Thanks!

-Destro

[tomato man]

FU team i think is dead it has been inactive for years and the leaders sadly left the game

[Mr Nice]

Thats not FU listed there

[Destro]

Oh, okay. My mistake, thanks for letting me know!

[Mango777]

Is this actually going ahead? Gj Destro, you organized a tournament

[Destro]

Originally Posted by Mango777

Is this actually going ahead? Gj Destro, you organized a tournament

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not. But thanks if it is for real Mango! I am excited to make the game more competitive and prove that football can be great with good teams and real strategy!

[Mango777]

Originally Posted by Destro

Can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

Its for real, I can't organize anything XD When I first saw the title when it started, I thought this wouldn't actually happen. I guess basing my judgement on only one word (football) is never a good idea.
By the way, what maps will be played? Van's football map, the regular football map, other maps, or some combination of the above?

[Destro]

Originally Posted by Mango777

Its for real, I can't organize anything XD When I first saw the title when it started, I thought this wouldn't actually happen. I guess basing my judgement on only one word (football) is never a good idea.
By the way, what maps will be played? Van's football map, the regular football map, other maps, or some combination of the above?

Okay, cool! To be honest....I haven't really figured that out for sure yet. I have heard people express that they just want to stick with the original ball map and some people who want to try Van's. I haven't actually tested Van's yet, so i don't really know how it is. It will only be football map though. A combination might be possible. Like maybe starting with the regular football map and then doing the final in Van's!? Maybe something like that. The first step in making a set in stone decision would be for me to test Van's map, so i will get on that.

[Destro]

4 Teams have already committed and are ready to play in the first ever PFL competition. I am getting excited for this and I know many of you are as well.

I would like to reiterate that if you have a team that is interested in participating in PFL, pleas pm me or speak to me in game at v9. Destro

I look forward to seeing you all on the field after APL! Happy gaming!

[AmateurLobster]

yeah i wouldn't say it was the first football competition.

We tried this a few years ago, but met the same ignorance you can see in this thread.

[tomato man]

How can people decide if its better van's map or the original 1 if no1 tested the first yet?

[Destro]

Originally Posted by tomato man

How can people decide if its better van's map or the original 1 if no1 tested the first yet?

This is the video of van's map. If you would like to see what it is like, look at the youtube video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq1oNWWPJsQ

[Soneji]

Any new info here? APL is ending soon...